Thread: tibetan yogas of dream...

hey , What do you think about awareness on breathing?
Everytime on waking life that I put my awareness on breathing I feel relaxed, and it works pretty similar to always thinking "this is a dream", at least for me.
Like, my mind links awareness on breathing with lucidity(this is what I think)
so it should work.

update again alright STILL NO LUCID!!!! grrr maybe i'm being impatient but, while it might sound easy, constantly keeping a certain thing in mind and trying to experience it rather than just think it is HARD WORK!!! i understand why robot and some other people were saying they gave up the practice! although i do still stand by the fact that it has helped me liberate some bad emotion and stress and i think it still will i'm just frustrated with the success speed! i keep considering dream medicine but that's just silly because there's no point in forcing something you can do naturally. it would be like taking a pill to read but once it wore off you're illiterate again lol! oh funny story though i was at the mall with my fiance' and had my eyes dilated from the eye doctor. i came back to where we were sitting in the food court and felt the tables had been moved i asked her if they had and she said 'no'. i thought 'maybe i'm dreaming.' upon checking my digital watch i realized i couldn't read it because of the dilation ha ha ha! i cracked up because that should be a confirmation that you're dreaming. my fiance' said i looked crazy because i was laughing and my eyes looked all tripped out.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Don't lose patience Zac... remember according to Buddhism, desire is one of the blocks we must get past.

Are you willing to try adding in other techniques as well, or wanting to stick strictly to the Dream Yoga approach?

hey thanx a lot! i appreciate the support. i'm willing to try other stuff! ideas?

Originally Posted by Mariano

hey , What do you think about awareness on breathing?
Everytime on waking life that I put my awareness on breathing I feel relaxed, and it works pretty similar to always thinking "this is a dream", at least for me.
Like, my mind links awareness on breathing with lucidity(this is what I think)
so it should work.

i've thought about this also, you get a nice relaxed feeling i think because both keep mind in the present moment and if there's no concern of past or future there's really no worry. i'm positive it helps because about a year ago (i had not been practicing or remembered any lucid dreams in a couple years) i was meditating a lot and also keeping mindfull awareness of my daily life pretty consitently and i had a dream in which i was walking somewhere and with that same constant awareness i easily recognized it as a dream. however because i wasn't practicing i didn't do anything and the dream just continued but none the less awareness of the present is lucidity.

Originally Posted by sleepyzac

hey thanx a lot! i appreciate the support. i'm willing to try other stuff! ideas?

Well, what popped into my head immediately is that i got great results from writing my intentions down in my dream journal before going to sleep. If you're not keeping a DJ you might just write them on some paper... for me because I did it in my dream journal it seemed to be a lot more powerful than simply stating my intent in my mind before going to sleep.

As soon as I started doing that I immediately was able - for the first time - to lie perfectly still without opening my eyes or moving after waking up, for proper DEILD technique. It didn't get me any lucids, but at least it significantly affected my dreaming mind. Just thought I'd throw that out there for ya.

I wrote something to the effect of "I will wake up after each dream. I will lie perfectly still and not open my eyes. I will think about the dream I was just having and imagine myself going back into it. And then I will re-enter the dream and go lucid". Well, 3 out of 4 aint bad, huh? Least that's what Meatloaf says.

my understanding is that lucid dreaming is an art form to take up that ripens over the years. i've had a dry spell of two months once (and i only started in aug.) and even now it's different than when i started. i do this for the reward in each moment, lucid or not.

what is DEILD?

OMG, I love when I wake up and can go back into my dream, except when it's about zombies. I have a serious fear of zombies and often have nightmares, force myself to wake up, but then can't stop thinking about the dream and then go right back into it when I fall back to sleep.

By the by I'm started an emergency survival bunker in my basement for natural distasters or zombie attack (Zac, the plan is to bring the baby and Casey to my house, I'll stockpile food, water and weapons, we'll just have to reinforce the doors and windows and wait it out) <<< only half joking :-/

I read this book a year or two ago. I like his idea that one should create a peaceful time before one goes to bed each night in order to disconnect the spirit from the outer concerns of the day. I regularly do his three breaths meditation before I go to sleep. It is a quick way to bring calm and peace to the breathing before lying down.

When I first started doing the meditation I had more lucid dreams, although once it became something of a routine it did not have the same effect anymore.

I awoke one night after reading this book in the middle of the night. I visualized the dakinis and repeated their name as a mantra and slipped right into a lucid dream.

Overall though I think most of the techniques in the book can only be developed by someone who is really plugged into a Tibetan teacher. That is what the author himself claims. Still it's nice to have a fragmental glimpse of how Tibetans approach lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by lacerup808

what is DEILD? /

Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream... in other words you wake up from a dream and then go right back to sleep and get back into it, only hopefully as a lucid dream. It's a very abbreviated form of WILD. There are tutorials on the site if you want to look into it.

Sorry Zac, didn't mean to hijack your thread!

I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream... in other words you wake up from a dream and then go right back to sleep and get back into it, only hopefully as a lucid dream. It's a very abbreviated form of WILD. There are tutorials on the site if you want to look into it.

Sorry Zac, didn't mean to hijack your thread!

I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

thanx! don't apologize, you're tips and stuff are much appreciated! i will try this.

ok probably last update i thought i could handle it but it's just too much mental work and i've had noooo results!!!!!! i give up! i'm going to try something else. any suggestions are much welcomed! thanx everybody sorry if i'm letting people down

to be fair i do believe that the yogas of dream and sleep are a reliable method so don't take my quitting to mean they don't work! hundreds of years and thousands of people say it works so still check out the book the tibetan yogas of dream and sleep by tenzin wangyal rinpoche but get exploring the world of lucid dreaming by stephen laberge also because he has a good trouble shooting type approach and many different methods to try and tenzin just gives one method and a few tips. but tenzin has loooooooooots of stuff that is just amazing and i haven't seen anywhere else so getting both is a must.