So, I'm looking for people who either believe in aliens or have seen them. Completely serious. Aliens are here and have been visiting our planet, and I'm wondering if anyone else here knows this too. If you don't want to reply here, PM me.
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So, I'm looking for people who either believe in aliens or have seen them. Completely serious. Aliens are here and have been visiting our planet, and I'm wondering if anyone else here knows this too. If you don't want to reply here, PM me.
Ain't seen any lately.
If you don't believe in aliens you are close minded... For space to be as vast as it is and for someone to say that there is not one single life form out there is very stupid. But to say aliens are visting us, well i am kinda skeptical about that because the distance from one star to the next is very far...
Yes, aliens are here.
Soon, everyone will know this.
There are many different types of aliens.
One type is very prominent in the history of human beings.
They left 5,000 years ago, although they have lived amongst us for 300,000 years.
Many different kinds of aliens are observing us right now.
Many are interested in us only for their own agendas,
but most are interested in our welfare and being accepted into the galactic community.
But first we need to stop fighting amongst ourselves in territorial battles.
We need to learn to work together as a united planet.
That is why now is such a crucial time and many aliens are interested in us.
We are merging into a globalized culture, with a global identity, thanks to the internet and
running out of fossil fuels, over-population and a re-awakening to environmental consciousness.
Some aliens wish to manipulate our awakening to a global identity for their own profit,
but so do some humans.
Some cultures resist the destruction of their obsolete culture and resist identifying with what they consider a "soul-less" global culture that values science over traditional organized religions and tribal allegiances.
Humans are in the birth pains right now, as we are birthing from the womb of nature and being born into a galactic reality.
Soon, aliens among us will be obvious to everyone, right in the midst of the worst crisis in our history.
So, a global crisis is coming very very soon, and has already started, but it isn't so apparent yet.
During the crisis, keep heart and just try to survive it. Right when it seems like the end a new day will dawn.
There are rumours of a staged alien invasion. If this is true, don't buy it. The real aliens won't invade. The real aliens wouldn't need to invade if their intentions are hostile. But the real aliens that will reveal themselves don't have hostile intentions.
Many people don't or won't believe this. That is to be expected, of course. Just enjoy the ride.
What do we have to look forward to? Accessing free unlimited energy from the ionosphere. No more war. No more pollution. No more economic slavery. A global identity. A place in the Galactic community. An awareness that we are not alone in this Universe. A knowledge of our true history and the origin of our species and many species on this Earth, including corn, marijuana, many fungi, and rice. Easy travel to the farthest reaches of space. A more advanced technology and science that fully understands and applies the knowledge of electro-magnetism and other dimensions.
Thanks for the input Oneironaught, those are lots of my thoughts as well, its going to be a exciting time when our space brothers and sisters are back and made officially known.
What's the evidence?
That is an understatement.
Fortunately there are more efficient ways of traversing apparently vast areas of space then what humans are capable of in our present understanding and technology.
It is not so much crossing vast areas of space linearly as appearing to jump instantly from one location and appearing in another. This isn't accomplished in the third dimension, but folding or looping space (kind of like how pac-man can go off the left hand side of the screen and appear on the right hand side). Creating wormholes or temporary tunnels in the fourth or fifth dimension.
I don't know the science of it, I admit it, because I am not an alien or an astro-physicist... But I have a basic understanding of the concept just as I have a basic understanding of how a radio works. I don't, but I know that it does.
Technologically advanced aliens have a way of hovering at a high wave-length where they can blink in and out of our perceived physical vibrational spectrum. Somehow their technology is an extension of their minds, whereas our technology is an extension of our senses and hands. We can use microscopes and telescopes as extensions of our eyes, a spoon is an extension of our hands, etc...
With some aliens it is hard to tell the difference between their vehicle and their body or their mind. Their vehicle might be perceived as a transparent light that seems to have sentience. Or somehow be able to pass through physical barriers as if we are only seeing a cross-section of a 4th or 5th dimensional object interacting with our third dimension.
The nature of the phenomena of alien encounters also exists on the threshold of objectivity and subjectivity. Cameras may malfunction, or not record anything unusual, while the person experience a full alien encounter with no physical evidence to show for it. However, after the event, there may be scorched ground, high radiation readings, etc. It is a fine line between diagnosing an experiencer with a psychological disorder or not. Here is an interesting read. It is a critical evaluation of theory and evidence.
It is interesting to not that for much of history the alien encounter was interpreted as encounters with gods, demons, succubi, and faeries or elves. They all had similar trademarks, ie. experiencing extreme pulsations of energy and a "Wahwahwahwahwah" sound, bright spinning lights, radiation burns (sunburn), missing time, encountering beings who humans were unable to relate to emotionally and unable to identify emotions in them, invasive telepathy and psychological manipulation, and even genetic experiments. Myths of the faerie changeling where human women were abducted and impregnated by faeries and later gave birth to a "changeling" or 1/2 human-1/2 faerie child, then the faeries come to take back the child. This also seems relevant to the "demi-gods" of myth. It wasn't until the 1930s and 1940s that the experience began to take on the alien association widespread. Perhaps this is a result of science taking the place of religion and superstition, and science fiction taking the place of mythology. Whatever it is, the alien encounter phenomena appears to be here to stay, and to always defy classification. It appears to be the manifestation and/or the projection of the mystery of our place in the universe. It appears to rear its head as any form that seems possible, but without evidence. It is the manifestation of the fantastic, from beyond the threshold of human understanding, perhaps to push us into expanding the envelope of our rational conception.
What I find very very interesting is the possible relation of the alien abduction experience with sleep paralysis and hypno-gogic hallucinations. Perhaps aliens can also manipulate people's consciousness and brainwaves and initiate a subjective hypnogogic abduction experience while they fiddle with the victim's mind. Or perhaps the whole experience is a product of the hypnogogic state.
But this only relates to the abduction experience. I have had no abduction experiences so I don't know about this first-hand. The experiences I have had are not with the classic "grey" aliens who abduct people but rather with a more benevolent entity that seems to be beyond our understanding of wise and compassionate, yet impersonal. They are awesome, yet quell any reactions of fear from humans. It is obvious that they deeply respect humans and our feelings of safety, they don't cross any boundaries. They need to be invited. But they will step in only when there is absolutely no other option for our safety as a species.
But perhaps I am just fantasy-prone. I admit that that is definitely a possibility. But, according to psychologists, fantasy prone people are still able to tell the difference between a fantasy or hallucination and a real experience. I would have to be schizophrenic if this weren't a genuine experience. Alien encounters are experienced by up to 6% of the population, according to the link I just posted. That seems like a high estimate, and would include the schizophrenic population as well. It would also include false memories suggested by UFOologists during hypnosis. But the fact is that many many people who are otherwise very sane and who have lead 'normal' lives, who were not even interested in aliens have had these experiences.
So with 5-6% of the population fantasy-prone, and a good portion of those only spontaneously fantasy-prone, it is the majority consensus reality opinion labeling the minority fantasy. And without any evidence for or against, it ends up being a matter of personal experience or not.
And what I would like to make clear is that the true nature of these experiences cannot be accurately communicated. The one relating the story of the experience has to use a lot of metaphors and similes. The one trying to understand, diagnose, etc. does not understand the nature of the experience. It is easy for them to dismiss it as fantasy, false memories, masking of trauma, etc... When the experiencer says that he "saw into a higher dimension of reality" that he was "previously unaware of" and that "the vast majority of people are unaware of" he means it. He cannot describe it accurately, or offer evidence, or experiment to prove a hypothesis (unless he is a scientist).
That is the whole message of the movie "Contact" and the book "Contact" by Carl Sagan. That in the end she had an experience that totally changed her life and she knew in the deepest part of her being as true, but she had no proof. And it is significant that the tables turned, whereas before she was a skeptical atheist. She remained atheist, but still was accused of hallucinating or fantasizing. Very good message in that story, I have a lot of respect for Carl Sagan. Also, the reaction from the religious nut-jobs was portrayed very well. But the character of Matthew McConaughey was very annoying.
I remember watching some program a while back that basically said wormholes can never be used for space travel, or traveling of any kind, unless you're the size of an atom. The program was basically saying the inability to create or use wormholes is a universal law, like gravity. Wormholes create paradoxes that could unravel the Universe! Well that's just my laymans understanding of it :cheeky:
But I do think there is something that can travel across the galaxies, and are already using it. It's mind. Close your eyes and see yourself traveling to another planet. Congratulations you're an astronaut! The interesting part is if you're willing to believe that mind exists on another layer of reality *astral*. In this case, if you can access this other layer with your full consciousness, you really are traveling to distant planets. The next step, is to have your body travel with you.
It all sounds impossible but I'm a believer that if we humans an imagine it, then it is possible on some level. Because I'm not sure how its possible for a mere human to imagine something separate from this Universe - when we are parts of it. We've imagined all sorts of crazy things, wormholes, time traveling, teleportation, dematerialize, re-materializing! All the great stuff of science-fiction.
So in my belief, all of these things must be possible - just not maybe 'here'.
Dana Gould - Alien Abductions - Video Clip | Comedy Central's Jokes.com :D
I'm pretty confident that we're not alone out there... Not too worried about there being aliens among us. Even if there are, as long as they're just observing, fine with me.
don't believe in aliens if I'm wrong no big deal, just don't believe
The question is: Why? Do you seriously believe that man meets near the psychological qualifications for contact?
Think of the Universe. Think of life forms unthinkably older than man. Would you not believe that the planets are governed and that a minimum psychological profile is required before contact?
What do you read when you read the Judeo-Christian Scripture? Historical, genetic, psychological, manipulation--even using dreams to do it.
Just what can be done about it? Nothing but learn.
In the end, it does not matter. As mind we have a job to do and must press on until we can do it.
Well, I am no scientist. I do not know what the hell a wormhole really is and how it works. It is science fiction to me.
But I can understand higher dimensions (up to the 6th dimension). Really, aliens only need to be able to have ships able to travel in the 4th dimension in order to cross the Universe instantly and/or to time time travel.
Humans are no more precious and worthy than any other species, but we are also just as unique, and a little more so. The potential of humanity is what is so precious and amazing, and how we are throwing our potential away. If I was an alien I would find humans worth contacting and communicating with even on internet forums, if it helps them. Yes, Rhinos and tigers and polar bears and whales and plants in the Amazon and the last of the rainforests and the coral reefs are all precious, especially for the ecosystem on Earth, but nor all that unique in the Universe. There are only a relative few species that have a potential like humans.
Spoiler for science fiction:
With a topology induced by a euclidian metric, this is close to trivial. 2, 3 dimensions are often harder to work with. You have more room in more dimensions.
I'm moving through the' fourth dimension' at ~300,000 kilometers per second as I sit here on my ass. I've never even been to china. And BTW, your use of the term 'the fourth dimension' calls into question your understanding of dimensionality it general.
fixed
By waiting for jesus/hari krishna/aliens to come and realize our potential for us
That's sort of how I feel about creationists and new agers
fixed. You're assuming that 'potential' is a one dimensional scale but potential moves in as many dimensions as there are individuals.
sounds awesome. with any luck, they'll have da kine pakalolo and they wont charge us tourist prices.
yes i do.
this is my site
deepintothereal.blogspot.com
nd i am going to pm you right now
I'll help you with your SEO spamming even if it's pointless on this site for technical reasons (check rel='nofollow') and I'll even give you an example of how to do it right: I honestly wish that I could say that this rubbish is the most delusional crap I've ever seen but I've spent too much time in R/S for that to be true.
If you are referring to the Earth traveling through space, that is not what I'm talking about. If you are referring to Time as the fourth dimension, time is not the fourth dimension, it may be, but nobody actually knows what time is. If time is a dimension then sitting on your ass in the fourth dimension is independent of time.
Nobody can realize our potential for us. They can realize our potential for themselves, which does nobody any good. we have to realize our own potential, but even realizing it is the beginning, then we have to actualize it, again, nobody can do that for us. BTW it is not hari krishna, it is just Krishna.Quote:
By waiting for jesus/hari krishna/aliens to come and realize our potential for us
I don't think you understand what I am assuming, and I don't understand what you are saying here.Quote:
You're assuming that 'potential' is a one dimensional scale but potential moves in as many dimensions as there are individuals.
Be that as it may, the alien experience doesn't offer any answers, just more questions, if one is looking for answers. For example, how they penetrate into the psyche kind of like a shared dream, but they are in control, and one is fully awake.
OK, look. The only verifiable theory that posits a four dimensional spacetime is relativity and in relativity every thing is moving through spacetime at the speed of light at all times. When we are moving at da kine through 'space', we are not moving through 'time' at all. When we are not moving through 'space' at all, we are moving at da kine through 'time'. When we are moving through one a little bit, we are moving through the other a lot.
You say 'greater potential'. with one dimension, you can do this: 1 < 2. With multiple dimensions, you can not. is 10i < 10 or is 10 < 10i?Quote:
I don't think you understand what I am assuming, and I don't understand what you are saying here.
I think he's using potential in the purest sense of the word - as in - we humans are capable of so much more than who we are today.
Think of where we were at the turn of the century in 1900. Who then could accurately predict where we would be in 2000? Who today can really know where we will be in 2100? Put the evolution of civilization on a graph, and it's exponential. We are reaching a point in time where our civilizations have the potential to make the greatest leap mankind has yet to make. But - it's just a potential.
No. He's using potential in a very anthrocentric way. He is saying that humans have greater potential than beavers. Humans have greater potential than beavers to do things that humans care about. Beavers have greater potential than humans to do things that beavers care about. Our potential only seems greater because we're humans and naturally care about human potential. Beavers care about beaver potential. Which is greater?
I do agree with this. But it is scientific evolution that has been driving this. That is to say, our actual understanding of the actual universe that we actually live in. Not religious/new age fantasies.Quote:
Think of where we were at the turn of the century in 1900. Who then could accurately predict where we would be in 2000? Who today can really know where we will be in 2100? Put the evolution of civilization on a graph, and it's exponential. We are reaching a point in time where our civilizations have the potential to make the greatest leap mankind has yet to make. But - it's just a potential.
Wait up! Stop and at least skim through my post! I strongly suggest you read my post. You won't regret it, I promise you that. Now, first I'm going to recommend some great shows on the History Channel and other stations that have vast amounts of information. If watching History shows isn't your thing, don't worry.. the shows I'm going to briefly tell you about are far from boring.
- The Universe [History Channel] <----- This show is pretty interesting, not to much about aliens, but it will teach you a lot about the universe we really live in. Some pretty ego killing stuff. Especially when they show you how small we are. It's just completely and utterly amazing.
- Ancient Aliens [History Channel] <----- You ABSOLUTELY have to watch this! Especially if you're just getting interested in aliens; or even someone who knows tons about aliens here on Earth.. their jaw will still drop. It tells you a TON about how ancient aliens shaped our entire world as we know it. I can't even explain how incredible all of it is.
Society and school books have blinded us, it's time for us to take off the blindfolds and realize what really and truly happened in our past.
Also, once you've got a good knowledge for ancient aliens and everything in-between.. read the Bible. Not from a religious point of view, but literally read it as a history book. You will be dumb founded to realize how much stuff in the Bible was misinterpreted as god and angels... when really, they were just misunderstood aliens. I have yet to read a book of the Bible that doesn't have some sort of alien contact or connection in it. It's just especially mind blowing for me, because I was raised a Christian and now I'm finding out that beyond a shadow of a doubt.. the Bible is packed full of aliens, advanced technologies, UFO's, and alien teachings. It just leaves me speechless, and I love it. I basically never have an empty mind now. I'm constantly thinking about different dimensions, time, death, birth, aliens, and our universe.. ect. Out of all the shows I'm recommending, I strongly encourage you to watch Ancient Aliens. Just search your guide on the History Channel and you'll find both The Universe and Ancient Aliens; just write down the show times or record them. They come on pretty frequently. And if you don't have a guide, just keep an eye out for them.
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- How The Universe Works [Discovery Channel] <----- Both this show and Into the Universe appear on the Discovery channel. They are played a lot less frequently, but you can probably watch both online somewhere. Or you could buy the season DVD.
Anyway, I can't really remember specifically what each one talks about and shows you, but I assure you it is some great stuff. They both talk about how the universe is teeming with life, the chances of time travel (shows you traveling forwards in time is very much possible. extremely hard, but possible. and it disproves traveling back in time due to paradoxes) It also takes you inside black holes and explains how they work. And in both series, the graphics are completely stunning. They did a great job with that. And again, both series show you how incredibly complex and massive our universe is.. with the help of some awesome graphics it looks very very real. Anyway, I don't remember too much more from these series as I watched them all tripping on LSD & 2C-I & DXM (all separate trips), and most of the show I was literally going into the TV and experiencing space first hand. All I know is you should really check those two series out as well.
- Into The Universe w/ Stephen Hawking [Discovery Channel] <----- Explained part of this series above.
- Solving History w/ Olly Steeds [Discovery Channel] <----- This is an interesting show. A British 'explorer' travels the Earth looking for strange unexplainable things, and tries decoding them. There are several episodes where alien evidence is blatant and right in your face. It is also a very down to Earth show. On one episode he traveled to (the city of?) Nazca and met up with a Native Shaman and they both did (as well as one of Olly's friends) almost the max dose of Mescaline. They then spend a day and a night tripping and trying to figure out why the Nazca lines were there, as well as having a first hand experience with what the Natives would of experienced while meditating and tripping in the desert. They also find bodily remains (bones) that are eerily reminiscent of aliens. Some skulls had hugely elongated skulls as well as other that were giants. But mysteriously, like a lot of other natives all over the world.. disappeared without a single trace. Aliens? I think so.
Also, I found a site that has most of his episodes uploaded in clips. HERE! is the Mescaline video I do believe. A lot shorter than the actual trip, but it might get some of you interested in it. Also, this show is aired on the Discovery Channel I think. It comes on frequently, you just have to catch it before it's gone again.
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I've probably made a huge post (and sorry if it's a little jumbled, I'm pretty tired), so I'll stop here. There are some other random shows on different stations that talk about aliens, such as UFO Hunters and such. So I guess just search around and you'll find something worth watching.
And again! I strongly recommend you watch some of these shows. At least Ancient Aliens. And a word of caution, if you are a Christian or Catholic (ect) and you're content with your religion, I advice against watching some of these shows (especially ancient aliens!). What has been learned, can't be unlearned. It just depends if you want to know the truth or not.
Hope you guys learn a lot from what I just posted. If you decide to watch some of these, have fun and be prepared to look at the world and our past history in a completely new way! :)
crazy newagers always put the prettiest pictures in their posts.
this post is directed to many post that were done in this thread about them traveling from so far away to us..
maybe they did travel so far away to come to earth. but remember their technology is WAY more advanced than ours. There have been reports that their probes have controlled our war planes in seconds. They can shoot.. everything is malfunctioning. they dissapear in matter of milli seconds. so if they are really that far away maybe to the technology that you know of here in earth will not get there fast enough but theirs yes.
or maybe they are right next door..
and we don't even know it..
I do highly doubt that all of the planets that we know of in our solar system are sitting there just for decorations.
Why don't we know about them..
Maybe because their planet is so much different from ours that they don't live on top of the land, maybe they live in the land. Who knows after all earth is nothing like those planets..
And think about this. How do you think we get all these pictures from all of these planets. How do you think we know so much about these planets. Because examine them closely physically right..
Maybe the same thing we are saying right now about aliens visiting us they are saying over there. Maybe they are having discussions like this saying YO WTF did you see that spaceship on the news that was orbiting our planet..
And maybe the result of that they come to ours and do the same..
I do believe in aliens and i already posted this in this thread but ill just post it again.
its my blog where i write alot about the supernatural. ALL of it has to do with aliens. If you read closely you will notice that. I wont say anything else because i would just be repeating what is on this site: deepintothereal.blogspot.com
and i cant post links because i have only been a registered member for 2 day and i need to be registered for 7.
or they could just be martians. Then they wouldn't have to travel far at all.
This. Mars probably inhabited intelligent life. There used to be an atmosphere, a north and south pole, a core, and plenty of liquid water as well as other valuable resources. Not sure how long ago that was though. Can't too long ago, compared to how long it has been a planet.
Aliens guiding human history is all a pile of crap, but that picture is fucking cool.
Oh haha, I need more sleep. But uh it doesn't have nearly as much as it had though, making in uninhabitable right? At least uninhabitable by humans, because there is to much radiation passing through it's thin layer of atmosphere. I think.. I might be wrong though. Damn I'm tired.
I laughed hard! :P And I wouldn't exactly say they guided us, more like... interfered / visited at times I guess. If they guided us, than they are doing a shitty job haha. Open your mind a little! :D Even if you don't like the idea, it's still interesting hearing all the theories.
Sure it's interesting, but there isn't really any evidence. We've got all the fossils and such which show that human evolution was a gradual, natural process.
I think people only believe in these theories of higher powers because it's comforting to think there's somebody 'up there' guiding us and maybe looking out for us, and that there's some 'higher meaning' to what might seem a pointless life.
This is my point exactly. What's sad is that this belief get's in the way of actually making making their lives not meaningless. If they derive meaningfulness from a fantasy, then that's not meaningful, is it. If they instead decide to choose their own real meaning in life (having kids, solving a difficult problem, etc) then they have something that they can actually accomplish or at least work towards. "jesus/hari krishna/aliens exist so my life has meaning" is a ripoff. When you tag "if you believe in jesus/hari krishna/aliens then yours can too" onto the end of it, it becomes outright pernicious.
Yes, I agree completely. That is in fact the defining human philosophy of my life; the third way, between religion and nihilism: creating meaning for oneself.
That IS NOT what I was saying. I was not talking about what a human can do, but what a human can become. You can say that a man is not yet a man, but you cannot say that a beaver is not yet a beaver. It has nothing to do with technology or what we can do that we care about. I am saying that humans, as individuals, do not operate to their potential. Very very very rarely is there one that does. A beaver IS an actualized Beaver. All beavers are perfect beavers. A beaver cannot become any more perfect than it already is.
I know this is off topic.. but as awesome as that image is its photoshopped to be wider.. and it annoys me.. The origional looks better:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4088244/Pics...y_happened.jpg
Sorry.. You may continue :)
Also, I don't think that we on this forum believe in aliens just to give our lives meaning. My life has meaning already and I have to find it within myself, no alien or God gives my life meaning. I just believe in aliens because I have had alien experiences. And even before I had an alien experience I was open-minded to them existing. But it wasn't because I wanted aliens to give my life meaning. And I think that I speak for the others on this forum that believe in aliens. But maybe not. I know that there are some people who fall into that category you speak of, but not on this forum however.
I had an encounter with two aliens if Florida and one in Oregon. The aliens I encountered in Florida were normal flesh and blood humanoid three dimensional creatures, and they were very nice and very curious of us. The one I encountered in Oregon was higher dimensional. It was above my house and in my room at the same time. It looked very strange. It communicated with me telepathically with images. It would've been able to communicate telepathically with language and words but I was not able to remain passive enough to receive information in this way. It looked out of my eyes and I looked out of its eyes. It had a ship that was like a saucer, but it was made out of a metallic "energy" or "plasma" that could change shape. I couldn't tell the difference between the alien and its ship, as if its ship was just a projection of the alien's mind that conformed to my expectations of what a symbol of inter-dimensional travel vehicle looks like. Instead of flying away, it just got smaller and smaller until it disappeared, but it looked like it was getting farther away. I could tell that it wasn't getting farther away because it was in my bedroom. The time there was this crazy strong vibration that went "WAWAWAWAWAWA" and lots of pulsating light. My power went out in my house.
The aliens I saw in florida though was just a normal experience. No altered consciousness, no telepathy, no higher dimensions, no crazy technology. They were very nice and I could relate to them. They had human-like thoughts and emotions. But there must have been some reason they were so curious of us and had such respect for us. They must have seen something in us that they didn't see in themselves.
But none of these experiences gave my life any meaning. I think that is a condescending assumption that skeptics use that we choose to believe in things that they don't believe in because we are looking for meaning and it comforts us. Believe me, the experience I had in Oregon did not comfort me at all! And think of the people who were abducted by aliens! They get no comfort from their experiences. And definitely no meaning. They get post traumatic stress disorder from it. My experience in Florida was very good though. My Oregon experience was good also, just way too intense. I would've blacked out if it went on any longer.
Motumz brought up some good points, and btw I am being serious with this post. Although we know about our history as humans, we really don't know all the details that have happened in the past, or in prehistoric times. Take either the pyramids of egypt, mayan/aztec temples, stonehenge, easter island, nazca lines, you name it, there is tons we really don't know about.
The idea that extra terrestrials have been in contact with our race is not so unreasonable because of our long history of this planet and our race, and these beings and crafts are also apparent in art work throughout our own history, depicted from cave drawings to works by famous painters. We've had sudden increases in technology, entire ancient civilizations have disappeared without a trace, there are unnexplained monuments/ruins scattered throughout our earth; there is so much more mystery and spirituality to our earth and humanity than people want to admit or recognize.
We're spiritual beings and we have potential to do more than what we realize, and now more people are starting to discorver their spiritual gifts again and use them. Lucid dreaming, out of body/astral projection, reading auras, meditation, being examples of what humans are capable of. We have an energy field, spiritual body, and the potential to do more than just what we can do physically. Its just a matter of opening yourself up to it and practicing. Making the choice to have a open mind and discover the spiritual truths which are already here.
Its unbelievable, but aliens are totally here and the government knows they're here. Since there are public reports of UFO sightings and aware of them, and the government must also know they are here. Some groups of aliens, specifically the pleiadians (who are part of the galactic federation of light) are here to help us during this time of transition. I have no doubt that they contact those people who are ready, and affirm that they are real and that they are visiting this planet as we speak.
I'm giving this message out because I know there are those who do believe, and also to let people know that aliens are definitely here and have been here. Our pleiadean friends are here to help and I'm inclined to think that they are on standby until our governments affirm that they're real.
I've had a encounter with aliens as well, but I will post it either later tonight or tomorrow.
A friend and I were out in Michigan one night and we saw a TON of alien crafts, they each looked like lights in the sky and most were morphing or changing shape.
Some even were blipping in and out of the sky; completely disappearing then reappearing. This one red craft was changing shape, and gradually made its way from above the tree-line accross the lake, to way up in the sky in the few hours we were out there. It would pause in mid air, fly right, then left, in circles, varrying in speed and visability. In the western part of the sky we saw another huge red orb fly from the bottom of the western part of the sky. It flew all the way over to the eastern part of the sky, then make a sharp left. As in a right triangle; this ufo just decided to go directly left after travelling in a somewhat straight line accross the night sky. Then it started to blip in and out, then eventually it disappeared. This one was blinking 3 bright red lights, and it "sent" this really weird low vibrating sound at us as it passed over us. Mind you it looked like it was in space, had no other noises, but this wierd sound that got louder and louder then just stopped.
We also saw two HUGE flashes of white light, one after the other, accross the lake, each coming completely out of no where. And it was at about 1:30am in the morning, and our eyes didn't need to refocus after seeing them. These flashes lasted a few seconds each, and were brighter than anything in the night sky. It was as if they were saying "here we are; we're affirming that we're real and making ourselves known to you without any doubt". We continued to see flashes of white light in the sky, and many other "light" ufos in the sky blipping in and out. Each varried its speed, had no consistant flight paths, and many of them were shape-shifting.
My friend was telling me about someone named Bashar (not sure if I spelled the name right) who was a channeled alien, that mentioned if a human actually literally saw a alien that they would go into psychoactive shock, because encountering aliens in any way brings out the subcounscious and negativity (perhaps positive to? not sure) in a person. So basically if someone ever literally encountered a alien they wouldn't be able to handle it. By the way my friend and I were reacting that night, I'd say I'd believe that. We were both freaking out even though what we were witnessing was really incredible. I've not freaked out that much ever in my entire life.
So during all this me and my friend were freaking out hardcore because we knew we were actually seeing aliens and their ufos for real. But at the same time it was a phenomenal experience and know its given me a sense of "knowing" that there are aliens here, both with positive and negative goals. But me and my friend feel we witnessed the positive aliens that night. And again, I don't look to these things for meaning or obsess over them, but its eye-opening knowing that we're definitely not the only ones in this universe.
Uhhhhh... there is an absolute shit ton of evidence, you just either deny it or haven't found it yet. But I also don't believe in aliens to give my life meaning. As Dannon said, my life already had meaning before I learned about all the truths about our past. Hell I even believed in aliens when I was a Christian, and it didn't give me any more meaning to life. But I will say knowing aliens exist here on Earth does make my life here a lot more "cooler" / interesting.
But damn, both 'Neo Neo' and 'Dannon Oneironaut' have some awesome alien encounter stories! :shock: Can't wait until I have the opportunity to encounter such a phenomenon.
Oh man that guy is hilarious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcq5tcOzito
You can't just say that and then not post evidence...
i really like this guy.
He is similar to the aliens that I met in Florida. Except they tried to remain unknown.
No he's all too human... I laugh because the people that think he is sincere are probably the same people that lose their life savings to a Nigerian prince if you know what I mean.
Those with an open mind would consider VERY hard that he is a fraud, and would be mindful of what he has to gain from it.
Aliens are supposedly of a higher dimensional frequency than us, so if someone was going to channel a alien then its like taking the 5th dimension and trying to make it compatible with the 3rd or 4th dimension. Computer part analogies would work here too. Some aliens also have human-like appearances and personalities, like the Pleiadians.
Fun fact: the major stars of the Pleiades were formed roughly 100 million years ago. It took about 3.5 billion years for multi-cellular life to appear on Earth. Me wonders who's make up these names...
Well, obviously this guy is a human. Either he is pretending, or he is being telepathically controlled voluntarily (channeling) which I think is the case because I recognize the feeling of the energy not fitting well into the human host. The way you test a channel is to see if they can read your mind or answer your question genuinely.
In my experience in Oregon, the alien projected telepathically into the top of my head, from over my roof. When I allowed the energy transmission down to my forehead, that is when I saw the images. The energy would sink lower if I allowed it, but it took extreme passivity. If I could've allowed it to enter my throat I would have been able to channel/ let the alien speak through me. I probably would look a lot like that guy.
How many people are really ripped off by alien impersonators? How many alien impersonators rip off people?
I don't know much about the Pleiadians or anything. All I know is what I heard. But the aliens in Florida looked exactly human, but I don't know how disguised they were. They were obviously somewhat disguised.
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The Pleiadeans originate from the planet Erra (which is supposedly located in an alternate reality that is a fraction of a second ahead of ours) and are outwardly similar to humans.
However, it seems to me that 99% of life is inorganic.
And it is the inorganic aliens (like the one I encountered in Oregon) that interest me the most.
Now that's an awfully narrow view of the situation, don't you think? Aliens ABSOLUTELY have been to the planet and currently reside here?
Anyways, despite my semantical teasing, I do believe in intelligent aliens. With so many worlds out there, I don't see why intelligent life couldn't have evolved on another world. Whether it's biological life or not is up to debate, but I consider any form of self-replicating molecule to be "alive", carbon-based or otherwise. The possibility of some of these life forms achieving sentience, and then developing FTL travel is certainly out there. Plausible, even. Hell, take Earth, get rid of a few of the mass extinction events, and you could see a species on this planet (Obviously not humans) already having achieved FTL travel.
anybody think by research canada has alot to do with aliens
No
why not..
im guessing yu havent done any research.?
if yu have then explain why no?
Yes, indeed. Everywhere I go there is inorganic beings, in the corners, under the sink. There are more inorganic beings than mosquitoes and crickets! There is one behind the door!
These are just terrestrial ones, but seeing how abundant they are, and since they are inorganic, I am sure even empty space is inhabited, the Moon definitely is, what to say about other planets?
Man, I wrote that at 3 in the morning.
At least wherever I've been there have been inorganic beings. I was speculating about the moon and empty space. But see, inorganic beings are not dependent on oxygen or carbon or the like.
i didnt mean of aliens currently living in canada. more like alien contact
ufo stories and abduction stories in canada are just in the high numbers.
yes obviously everywhere else obviously too but canada's is just not normal.
this does not mean alot but i just find it weird.
canada has the highest ratio of greys being seen in reported abductions. 90%
does not mean much in the state theres is actually something going on but i just find it weird.
I live in Canada. I know a ton of people in the military and in the National Research Council (in aeronautics). I have never heard anything about aliens.
I was able to witness them and their crafts, so I started this thread to see other's views as well as seeing if anyone has witnessed aliens/ufos too. I don't know about aliens living here currently, but I certainly think they've been traveling too and from the earth for quite some time.
I highly recommend these shows as well ESPECIALLY Ancient Aliens, best show History Channel has produced. The things they present in that show are amazing, really makes you question what was really going on back then.
I've never seen the Solving History w/ Olly Steeds but that episode sounds awesome. Going to see if I can download it today.
Along the line of shows also check out Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman. It's kind of like The Universe but with updated information and some other very interesting topics.
I've never been contacted by aliens or seen any UFO's, though I would love to, but I definitely believe/know they are out there and are here.
Once again, no need to be so absolute.
Are you 100% certain the crafts are of an extra-terrestrial nature? Are you 100% certain that extra-terrestrials built the pyramids? The ancients had much more advanced technology than we seem to give 'em credit for, you know.
No I agree, and I understand your criticism, so sorry for coming off as an asshole. But of course I'm not 100% sure of anything. I don't even know 100% if I'm "real" hah. As you just said, the ancients DID have more advanced technology. That's my whole point. I'm saying aliens interfered with the ancients and gave them technology that otherwise, they wouldn't of had. And once the aliens felt satisfied they helped enough, they left... maybe keeping watch the whole time. We have yet to find any evidence of legitimate technology. So I'm thinking that the aliens just took their equipment back, and left. But one problem is, the Egyptians wrote a tiny tiny bit of it down. They spoke of a hand-held device that would levitate 10 TON STONES with ease. They also had PERFECTLY cut marble slabs. And some of the ancients in South America have stone ruins and carving so in-depth and complicated that again... we simply CAN'T even imagine of duplicating. The Egyptians also spoke of hand-held "balls of sun"... and in the drawings on the wall, they look just like flashlights and big search lights.
Also, in the main pyramid (not sure what the exact name is) they theorize that the 2 square holes leading out the top that point at certain stars... they would mix 2 different chemicals in the chambers then sending beams of energy to those exact group of stars. Which, the stars they speak of and mention... AREN'T EVEN VISIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE. Or even a telescope. We didn't even know the group of stars existed until 1970 (somewhere around then).
It's all just so mysterious. I'm just supplying the evidence. But I will say I PERSONALLY believe aliens DO exist, and that they have visited us in the past. You really should watch the show 'Ancient Aliens'. It neither refutes or endorses alien life, it simply supplies the evidence and leaves you, the viewer, an opinion to decide whether or not you want to believe they have been here or not. At the very least it's a good show to watch purely because it shows you just how advanced they really were; compared to how dumbed down society and school tells them as.
Does anyone have any info on the 45th parallel of latitude? It was on the parallel where I saw the aliens in Michigan, and I can't really seem to find any "spiritual" or metaphysical info on the 45th parallel online. Its just interesting because this parallel is supposedly a energy meridian of the earth, traversing through the world, several states of the US, including Oregon if I'm correct.
Thanx dajo, that is very interesting. Always interesting how we define "life" and even if there might be "intelligence" that doesn't appear to fit the description of "living". There are interesting theories about how life originated on Earth. One of the current scientific hypotheses is that life came from clay in hot springs. ANd that the first living thing was clay.
I think that I can't prove it seeing as I have not devoted my life to science and have no funding or laboratory. Also, being inorganic, they are hard to recognize since all our definitions of life only apply to organic life. Also, I don't care to prove things to people, and if I won a bunch of money I would just buy as much land as I could with it, and not live there. But being inorganic, they are not dependent on O2, CO2, Carbon, nitrogen, food, water, reproduction, etc...
I could prove it to you non-scientifically if you come to my house. But I can only promise to show you terrestrial inorganic life-forms. However, even traces of organic lifeforms from space have been found on meteorites, although they are not that intelligent, being like a fungal spore or something.
Some inorganic life-forms however do have an organic body, although it does not look like they really do. Hmmm, that doesn't really make sense, I don't know how to say it otherwise. Let us see, in the movie the Matrix, the agents are sentient programs although they look human. That isn't really a good example, but it is the best I could do.
I understood your example. Why come to your house though? Just wondering. Do you have like physical things you could show us at your house, or is it just easier to talk in person then typing it all out?
Also, buying land and never selling it = best way to spend your money.
Yes, I could SHOW you rather than trying to convince through hearsay. But you don't have to come here, actually we could meet anywhere and I could show you. Railroad tracks at night are good places.
Buying something that has real value but you cannot own seems to be the best way to use something which has no inherent value.
now that we are talking about inorganic life and maybe just life in general i wanna say something i believe.
always/started exploring paranormal/life things when i figured this out.
there is life EVERYWHERE.
a bush you see it is just filled with life. inorganic/organic does not matter.
take a look at ants for once.
and really stare at them.
they seem to look like how our ancestors lived millions of years ago.
no technology, no real secure housing just them in the wild basically trying to survive with what ever they can pick up right.
but lets not talk about that now. think about this though. in a piece of life there is another piece of life. in that other piece of life there is another piece of life.. and it just keeps going.
to us it may seem so small. but to them it can seem so normal like how our lives are now. there is life in a field. there is life on you right now. there is life in the air. there is just this out of this world life in the DEEP blue sea. They are all just developing just like how we did. think of it all like a cycle. for all you know we could have been inorganic life at one point.. im not saying we are the highest in the class of life. same way we see the ants so small to us another life form is just on top of us and to them we look if as small or even smaller as the ants. i know i've posted this before but still wanna post it since some of it does have to do with what we are talking about.
take a time to read some of my blogs..
Life?
dont read the newest ones but if you want to go ahead but with the topic that is being discussed right now read all of them epset the newest 2, and tell me what you guys think.
theres alot more stuff i can say about my theories of life its just typing it gets pretty annoying.
lol maybe all of us should skype and talk about it there? i find that a good idea.
How do you take a picture of an inorganic being? I don't have a camera for that wavelength of light.
No, we were not once inorganic. We have not evolved from inorganic, we have always been organic, but we are evolving towards inorganic. That is why our consciousness is evolving so much more quickly than our bodies. We have no more challenges to our bodies since our technology serves any role needed. Our organic bodies will soon be useless.
Xenu did it.
No, Replicon really did it.
It's true! I used my noodly appendage.
For some reason some of them like to hang out around railroad tracks, among other places. Either that or it is easier to see them there.
But, these are not aliens we are talking about. These are earth inorganic beings.
If you have the time.. PLEASE tell me more. Or post some reference sites or www's for me to read through. I'd love to know more.
Are they just localized near you, or could I go and drive out of the light pollution (there isn't much here anyway) and walk along some secluded rail road tracks and see/sense some? Either way it sounds like a win win situation, I've always wanted to walk along rail road tracks.. it seems so relaxing.
There are railroad tracks that go through my college campus...
I'm with Motumz; I don't know what inorganic beings you're talking about, but I'm going to go check out the railroad tracks anyway because it sounds interesting. Perhaps tonight I will.
I investigated some railroad tracks but I think I was too close to town and too much lighting maybe. I did feel like there was some sort of energy current where the railroad tracks were, and I got some indiscriminate imagery of "dust-like" things in my mind, but nothing else other than that. Although it did feel peaceful out by the tracks. Not too sure what I was supposed to be looking for, but thats what I got.
I believe in aliens. I mean how can we be alone when space is HUGE. Personally, I don't believe any aliens are here on earth.
I ran across this article:
NBC's "The Event": A UFO Researcher's Perspective (AFTER DISCLOSURE)
Apparently there is going to be some sort of TV series coming out, and possibly about the disclosure of ufos/aliens. But the author of this article also wrote a actual book on the implications of a real disclosure of ufos and alien craft. Governments conditioning society to be ready for some sort of real ufo disclosure and confirmation through the media? Maybe, maybe not, but I found this article worthwhile to post in this thread.
The vastness of space doesn't necessarily mean there has to be alien lifeforms.
Does believing that alien lifeforms couldn't have the means to travel from one star to the next, make you 'close-minded'? :roll:Quote:
But to say aliens are visting us, well i am kinda skeptical about that because the distance from one star to the next is very far...
To believe they can't travel from star to star, is not close minded. To SAY they CAN'T, is. You are thinking about it all wrong, I don't think they are traveling at 99% the speed of light... and even then it would take a damn long time to get place to place. I think they have harnessed worm-holes and other "natural" short cuts in the universe to use to their advantage to travel vast distances in a fraction of the time.
Interesting! I think we still need more info on the inorganic beings though.
Oh and this is kinda off topic, but a couple of ladies were nearby (putting coins on the tracks to be flattened, because you could hear a train in the distance but couldn't see it), and they must've thought I was effin crazy because I was walking along the tracks, standing in the middle of the tracks, and then just staring at the tracks backing away from them slowly. Eventually I waved at them, and told them I was looking for inorganic beings lol. Then, I told them about dreamviews. One of them seem kinda open to lucid dreaming, so hopefully we'll get some new members lol.
And I'm planing to go check out some different areas of the tracks sometime too. But still, don't exactly know if I sensed what Danon is talking about.
I'm an alien and I've come from far away.... just to rape your cows.
Poor cows...
Oh boy...
Thinking about what? I presented nothing to be judged as wrong, unless to my assumptions, you're referring to the interrogative I asked which was used to question the possible inconsistencies based on the errornous reasoning of the person I had targeted my question toward. Then, because it was his reasoning that was used (against him), he, according to your logic, is wrong.Quote:
You are thinking about it all wrong
Before everyone reads what I say next, know that its not toward anyone in particular, I'm just throwing it out there. I just think that a definitive "No there isn't any life outside our planet, at all, period." is pretty narrow-minded and limiting. I know I sound hypocritical when I say I've seen UFOs, but again I'm speaking from personal experience. I've experienced something I've personally believed to be UFOs. So have others. BUT, you can't personally see ALL of the universe and assume that there's no life out there, because NO ONE has gone out and seen the entire universe or solved the mysteries thereof. If someone did go out, personally experience everything in the universe, and find no source of conclusive life, then I'd be down with that. But seeing that we havn't come close to that, I'm betting that what I saw were really UFOs, if not something extremely odd.
I stopped reading at "boy". Nobody can say it's impossible. Nobody.
You don't have to respond because I won't read your reply, there is no point "arguing" (or whatever you are trying to prove).
We haven't even explored a fraction of our own oceans, much less "our" own universe. You did see something that wasn't created or operated by humans, and no one can take that away from you. Yes, it is 100% completely close / narrow minded to say there is absolutely no life out there other than on planet Earth. And I'm saying all types of life: intelligent life, inorganic life, simple life, or other life forms that we can't even comprehend. It's all life, and it's all important.
But they can see for themselves pretty soon, we are extremely close to proving there is at least microbial and bacterial life on other planets. In fact as other people have mention on here, we have evidence of fossilized bacteria/microscopic life in-cased in meteorites that have hit Earth and have been preserved due to the cold climates on Earth or just the extremely hard rock they have been sealed in. We have also found proof that there is liquid water on other planets. In my opinion I don't even think you need liquid H2O to harvest life-forms (no matter how small or big), you just need a liquid to suffice (such as liquid nitrogen - can't remember the planet name [might be in our solar system?] but there are massive lakes of liquid nitrogen that could possibly hold some forms of life, no matter how different).
Also does anyone want to discuss the cow mutations? Or whatever you call what is happening to them? I saw another special on the Discovery channel the other day that discussed how the cows were being neatly slaughtered and harvested. I haven't really thought up any theories or anything, so I'd just like to throw it out there to see what you guys think.
I never said it was impossible. You've drawn your own conclusion. I also suggest you not appeal to ignorance on the matters regarding the existence of aliens.
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You don't have to respond because I won't read your reply, there is no point "arguing" (or whatever you are trying to prove).
Also does anyone want to discuss the cow mutations? Or whatever you call what is happening to them? I saw another special on the Discovery channel the other day that discussed how the cows were being neatly slaughtered and harvested. I haven't really thought up any theories or anything, so I'd just like to throw it out there to see what you guys think.
Some of you are walking along railroad tracks! You can try other places as well, pools of water in a creek in the woods, a place where two creeks come together, natural cave-like places, on top of hills, in deserts. If you see an object all by itself in a vast empty space, that is a good place to look, also behind the toilet, in corners of rooms, in places where dust collects, under the kitchen sink...
But, what exactly do these look like or are perceived as? Are they like the inorganic beings mentioned in the article, or are they pronounced and perceivable? I have tons of railroad tracks around my college town, but I'm still not sure what they're supposed to be like, and if I actually encountered some that night or not.
I'm tired so I'm not going to review every post now :p But here are some of my thoughts on UFOs and aliens and such...
1) UFOs.....someone explain to me why highly advanced races would come to Earth, maybe traveling thousands of light years, just to make some pit stop here on Earth in the middle of nowhere. One would assume intelligent beings would naviagte towards things like the lights of New York and other big cities. Instead of (usually) ending up somewhere in the desert looking for a redneck to snatch up lol. So I'm not saying Alien UFOs don't exist, but too me it all seems so illogical for intelligent beings. I also can see how they may have been here in our past. From what I understand, the ancient alien theory sounds more plausible in that there were aliens all over the world at once, teaching people, not just harvesting them or whatever lol. It wasn't just a small lone spaceship.
2)I do believe in Aliens, of all walks of life as we know, macrolife, animals..etc..but I also can believe that we might just be the most intelligent, we might be the aliens other worlds are waiting for. And we are far away from even reaching the nearest planet, let alone the next nearest start system.
3) People who say they were hypnotized and say they recall alien abductions and such..well I don't believe them..not saying they are straight up liars. I think they probably do believe it, but the problem with hypnosis is there can be implanted memories from the hypnist (sp?).
4) And I think a lot of home Alien encounters can be easily explained in terms we all understand, as do most ghosts stories I hear...personally I believe anyone who has ever been abducted from bed, seen ghosts, or any paranormal thing can simple be chalked up to misunderstood SP halluecinations :p
So those are some of my random thoughts, like I said I'm tired so sorry if it's nonsense rambling lol
Dude I'm now totally lost. It almost sounds like you're just fuckin' with us now.. :P though I know you aren't.
I need to know whether or not you can actually physically see them with our eyes, or is it a mind's eye type of being? Where it's image passes through our physical eyes but goes straight to the brain for it to be perceived there. I frequently see smoke running alone the walls, and shadows morphing and moving. I also see ghost type being a lot. Just a translucent humanoid (I think) walking in one direction for a couple seconds... then disappears. Are these what you're talking about?
I'm going to spend all this weekend looking for what you are talking about. Though, to be honest I'm going to be spending most of my time with my neighbor and his big-ass telescope. Jupiter man! It looks so beautiful from here, and even more amazing from his telescope.
My dad's mother had Schizophrenia, I'm not sure it was hereditary though. The 'ghosts' I mentioned were drug induced, so of course they would be called out as an immediate hallucination, that's why I didn't tell you it was drug induced. I see them when I take a tiny dose of a certain drug (it's common, but not usually at that dose), but I find it odd I see and hear them on such a small dose, so I just thought I'd add it in there. But hey, I believe certain hallucinogenic drugs open up a mental portal of another reality, so maybe I'm / others are just peaking in on something that is there, but our serotonin based reality doesn't let us see. Just kind of a theory that I've been working on.. as well as a few others I've come across over the internet. Sounds crazy but it's whatever, I don't full out think it's true, again just a lil personal theory.
I like the SP theory, but what is weird about the in-bed abductions, is they ALL have very similar characteristics, which leads me back to the alien thing.
As for the "why would aliens come to us?".. well, where else are they supposed to go? Land on stars? No haha. They probably are just curious maybe? Learn more about the different civilizations of space, I know that's what I want to know more of. What I think other aliens species (that are advanced enough to travel the cosmos) are trying to spread their own race through-out the universe to keep their one race going if they happen to die out. So honestly, we could be one of them, and they are just returning to keep an eye out on us.
Isn't it ironic that all the people that see aliens everywhere on Earth are heavily into drugs...
no so much ironic as prophetic, i think
So basically over the last 10,000 years every person that has ever witnessed aliens are "heavily" into drugs? Every ancient text (including the bible) that mentions alien visitations were written by people on drugs? I also find it just plain stupid that you used the word "all". Do you ever stop and think before posting?
I'm not even going to continue, because your post is just that pathetic.
Excuse me if your post was a joke, it doesn't look to be though. It's just really sad that you would respect a person's alien experience better, if they weren't into the occasional drug use.
Just an observation off of this site. While you may think it's pathetic for someone to see a connection between drug use (especially psychedelic) and "alien experiences", some of the "experiences" in this thread (and the certainty of which the posters claim that they are alien related) border on insanity.
I might of worded it wrong, I didn't mean it's pathetic to see the connection, I meant it was just wrong to hold a higher respect for people's experiences who haven't use drugs. Sorry for the misinterpretation.
You don't have to name names, but what alien experiences would you call border line insanity? I honestly haven't seen anything I thought was "too far fetched", but I guess that's just me.
mention of any experience is completely insane. i've often imagined how beneficial the expression silence is golden would play out on a legitimate claim. that's ironic
For me personally, I am not "heavily into drugs", and I was able to witness UFOs.
And if you go here: ndxLocOut it shows UFO reports by month, and it has 411 for august alone. And these are just the ones reported, there are undoubtedly many, such as my own, which go unreported.
An UK disclosure of UFO police reports news article: Official UFO Reports – British Government Releases Thousands of Secret UFO Documents | MyWayBusiness.com
U.S. Government documents about and related to UFO phenomenon: Blue Book Archive
These are just some examples showing that this isn't something crazy; this stuff has been noticed and documented by our world's governments. They know that UFOs are here, and they know that normal every-day citizens see them. The higher-ups in this world know more of whats going on than we do, and since "normal" people have seen UFOs, certain military and government officials definitely have seen them and know that we've seen them too. And I don't think people were on drugs when they posted the thousands of UFO documents, or the hundreds of reports of UFOs by normal every-day people. Sometimes you just happen to look up into the sky, and then you just happen to see one.
Once aliens contact us, we'll be in good hands. :)
Great post! I'll be visiting those links as well tomorrow. Should be a good read.
Ehhhhhhh, I don't entirely believe what the article says, since I think aliens are already here. But none the less, any form of official alien contact / discoveries will be a great start to a great future for this planet.
Sanity and insanity! I find it ironic how small-minded many "sane" people are, only to freak out and go into denial when confronted with an experience that they cannot reconcile with their world-view. Motumz, I haven't visited this thread in a while. Your experiences are a good start. Also, the conceptual mind might mis-identify something. When you hear a sound that you cannot identify, you become alert. But what about the sounds you can identify? Sometimes we automatically unconsciously mis-identify sensory information prematurely because it is efficient for our minds to not be aware. But be aware!
LSD reverts the mind's sensory system so everything alerts your brain like it is something new. I've actually learned to clean my mind's slate, after a renewing trip on LSD. Overtime I've come to like the natural way a lot better, but it still works.
But yea, I had my first.. "thing" sighting? Friday night, completely sober, laying down and about to meditate and listen to Shpongle... when I see these tiny little orbs flying over my lava lamp. At first I thought it was just dust reflecting the lava light. But when I got closer, some would stay, and some would disappear. On closer inspection, they were actually omitting light. - This actually frightened me, I ran to my bathroom and made sure my eyes weren't dilated; they weren't. So I checked my stash and made sure I hadn't accidentally taken something; I didn't. I walked back to the orbs, and tried touching one. I didn't exactly touch it, but I did...... feel it? My finger passed through it, but I still felt this icy hot sensation INSIDE my finger. The moment I put my finger through it, I felt as if an unknown Psychedelic was coming on. I kept seeing these weird little translucent dark shapes floating around. Every time I saw one, I'd get a super intense euphoric feeling. I'd also like to note, my perception of time would change every time I would see the beings / things. But here is the weird thing, the more I saw, the more "realer" time got, and the more smoother reality felt. I really felt connected to them. But, right when I got comfortable with the little critters, they disapeared. Not exactly disapeared though, more like flew at me, but flew away at the same time. Or almost like imploding on itself.
I still feel very different, three days later. Sadly I haven't seen them again, but this has seriously persuaded me to pack a small bag and go off on my own adventure. I'll be going off to the outer limits of the near by boon-docks (middle of no where). I'll be spending the weekend by myself, and just sleep on the ground. I figured I'll start off on the near by railroad tracks, and walk to the next town, or until I find a nice small body of water (like you suggested). After that, I will either walk back or hitch a ride.
I think it's best for me to stay completely sober for another week, and to meditate on the previous experience. Dannon, do you have any tips or something to help me let go of my homelife before I set off next weekend? Basically I just want it to be nature, the beings, the stars, and my undevided consciousness. - I have a feeling this coming weekend will be a very positive experience, whether or not I get the privilege to see any beings of any sort.
Oh and, has anyone seen these orbs or floating shapes (they were kind of 3D like shapes)? I'm not really talking about the "ghost orbs" people report, though they could be the same thing. I just don't think they're ghosts, or even spirits for that matter. They seemed too.. divine to be anything near that.
I havn't seen any orbs lately, although I was going to check out this: www.netliberty.net/dreamachine.html . Basically you close your eyes and face it, then it initiates a trance/meditative state. I have been remembering bits from a couple past lives of mine though lately, which has been blowing my mind, but it shows that having an openness and awareness lets you be able to tune into these different things.
Hey Dannon Oneironaut the inorganic beings you talk about. Would those be reptilians that I keep hearing about that exist at a slightly higher dimension and take the form as humans and are the leaders of countries and corporations that are responsible for the NWO? I also heard this is why leaders have pure bloodlines that go back in history or something. Its an interesting theory. whats your take on it?
I've heard of that before haha. But if they live on another dimension, how do they get here? Just wondering.
@ Neo: There is a simpler technique to. Just close your eyes, look in the direction of the sun (not straight at it) and then move your opened hand infront of your eyes quickly (up and down) and you will start seeing strobes. Then "hallucinations". I've seen several beings, but details are pretty groggy.
The dream machine works better though. The first time I tried it (just now) I saw a baby's face. Quite detailed, unlike the method I told you about. Pretty interesting.
No. I don't think so. I have never seen a Reptilian. I imagine a reptilian to be organic, but they might be inorganic. We all exist in all dimensions, each dimension includes the lower ones and our true identity is the absolute reality. We are just focused on this third dimension while we are awake. So, if what they say about Reptilians is true, they do not come from another dimension, but a different frequency.
@ Motumz, how did your quest go? I must admit, that I am very bored of this site and forget about it for weeks at a time before I check back. Sorry that I wasn't available to answer your question. But those things floating above your lava lamp sounds cool! See how a less alert person would unconsciously just assume that it was dust and then their reality would reflect back their beliefs? But your alertness allowed a paranormal experience. This is lucidity.
There are no aliens. They are demons pretending to be aliens so they can take over humanity. But humans are the creators of demons. We are being enslaved by our own creations.
The media amazes me sometimes. It just seems to indirectly be the source of everyones argument.
District 9, Men In Black, War of the Worlds, and many other films seem to just make you guys believe aliens do not exist. You say movies are not reality. In a sense, yes but if you look deeper it is more of a reality than anything. Maybe not at the current time but in maybe 2 years, 5 years, 20 years. Who knows? But they're here whether they're observing from space, blending in from ground level, or just doing whatever they do. I expect us to meet aliens within' the next 10 years or less once we hit the cycle of the world collapsing in an economic meltdown.
Though, one thing is clear. Star Trek is a good basis for humanity. The power to travel space time has allotted peace in our planet and making us globally peaceful with no wars. Corruption? Gone. I don't think money even exists then either.
There is a source for everything, so yes, all those movies are probably not far off.
I to believe we will meet aliens in the next 10 years. We are so close it's not even funny. They have revealed themselves, government has just mainly covered it up (but not enough). As for the ancient alien proof, society just doesn't want to accept it.
Yeah I kinda forgot about it to hah. The quest was great though. A lot of realizations. I didn't see anything, but, I honestly think if you try looking for them, you'll miss them. The experience was very humbling though, I learned a lot. I've been overwhelmed with with knowledge and lucidity at this point though. Everything my parents have tought me to care about is shattered. It's all a load of pointless shit. All I want to do is travel the world. Especially the main ancient alien sites.
Have you heard of the Zone Of Silence, Dannon? This is the first place I want to travel to.
Who's government?
I think recent events have shown how much the US government sucks at hiding information, let alone every government.
A book that will forever change how you see everything in life.
Once you read the table of contents there's no way your not going to want to read the book.
http://www.rael.org/request.php?1
Haha, yea... :D
Is that to my post? lol.
Just talked to a 'friend' (I don't know him to well) who claims he was abducted by aliens. He said he woke up, saw them for a split second, then was HIT and knocked out. Doesn't really sound like aliens, but I will neither refute or endorse his claims. I will try to get a lot more detailed story out of him though.
He didn't seem like he was lying though, and he said he ONLY told me because I mentioned/stated that the aliens have been here, and are here.
Lately in my meditations I've been getting contacted by my spirit guides, as well as this blue extra terrestrial with a human figure. When they appeared to me in this meditative state they told me to keep continuing on my path and be confident in what I believe in (in regard to the UFOs and everything existing). They also informed me to let other people know about this and share my views with others. I felt a sense of familiarity with this being like I had been in contact with them before. I also felt a great sense of wisdom and power from this being as well. If anyone has info on blue ETs let me know!
Anyway, I've also been using the dream machine in my meditations and have been getting shown different places and spirit guides. A couple nights ago I was shown what appeared to be a form of the akashic records, and I was shown diagrams and future events. My meditations in general have been more intense lately and I'm often able to consult my spirit guides during them.
My present experiences this semester have led me to believe that having an encounter with UFOs/ETs tunes someone into them. Granted, it also depends if someone chooses to stay in contact with them and have patience. ETs show up of their own accord and when the time is right. Its also interesting lately because it seems things are accelerating and heading to a point...
Are they shorter then normal beings?
I've noticed that the different colors induce different trance states and affect what kind of things I can tune into during meditation. I have found that blue works well with me, and that 11hz works well (i think there is something significant about the number 11 anyway) and also a low hz, like 3hz. I've tried 23hz and 27hz and I've had spirit guide encounters with those as well. For me I try a couple different frequencies and choose the one that I feel more comfortable and centered on. Its also somewhat of a intuitive feeling with me, and if I don't feel like I am able to be in a comfortable meditative state I try a different hz which is higher or lower depending on which way I want to go.
But experiment with the different colors; I find it interesting that the colors alone affect what you can experience while using the dream machine.
Edit:
I go for as long as my spirit guide encounter is, or as long as I feel I need to go for. I just start to get a feeling that I haven't completed the meditation if I have not gone long enough. Generally I'll be anywhere from 5 minutes to up to 25 or 30 minutes. It just depends, sometimes I don't get much of anything and its pretty short.
Of course you do.
You have something against midgets?
Seems like an unreported robbery case. Weirdo in a mask breaks in, weirdo, seeing your friend waking from the noise, decides to knocks him out. He should've called the cops.
In one week we're going to be 2011
I scratched my ass 11 minutes ago.
I would thank you but you have 11 thanks. Don't want to screw up a good thing...
But, 12 is more special-er. This talk is messing up my vibe. Where's my dream machine.. 16hz should do it!
You have one sect that believe in aliens, one that doesn't, and one that's unsure. Some of you are really teetering on the edge of being called "wild-eyed crackpot's" and only a few decades away from being known around town as "Old man Jenkins who lives with his cats and argues with the furniture". Don't be so open-minded that you'll believe any project camelot bullshit that graces youtube and don't be so closed-minded as to think that just because humans haven't engineered intestinal bacteria to expel rose smelling fecal matter, it's impossible for another planetary civilization to have learned how to traverse space in leaps and bounds because we haven't yet. Regardless of whether they (presupposing a "they" exist) had a few million years head start or not.
Just subscribe to the belief of "I don't know" instead of "I DO know" and be done with it.
We may hope. We may think. We may believe. But when it comes down to it.. we don't know shit. :P
They closed down an airport in china when this ufo flew over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnszlJC8iGs&feature=related
Missile/rocket, you can even see what looks like a second stage firing.
And the UFO becomes an IFO! :thumbup:
You joke now, but when they arrive in 2012 to beam us onto their crafts.... :shadewink:
But seriously, its the type of thing where you have to experience it for yourself, and we're here just reporting what we've experienced!
I have seen them, however i believe that they are fallen angels showing themselves!
Thats my personal view thought.
I personally believe that live abounds, and that our galaxy is teeming with intelligent life. Most below our level of technology by a considerable margin. Still, I am also inclined to believe in Moore's Barrier. The notion that it is inevitable for any intelligent species capable of technology, to evolve said tools exponentially beyond their ability to control them, to the age of nuclear weapons and then inevitably, bioterror.
I do not believe any intelligent species in the galaxy has yet been able to do what is needed and build a secure public housing and essential resource distribution network, offered as a free opt-in to give all their people an equal chance to be safe from said threat, and that EVERY species that has reached this point we're about to reach have failed, and gone extinct, as will we if we continue to jihad on charity in this country because we're too damn greedy to allow such a return on the TRILLIONS we invest in national defense, which we currently get next to NOTHING in return for.
This is why the Universe, vast as it is, has greeted our SETI with such resounding SILENCE.
No intelligent life could stand idly by and watch the absolute EVIL that presides over this greedy black hearted little prison planet and do nothing. They either aren't in range, or...
They're all DEAD.
EDIT: Trippy video, but I believe it to be a missile myself, possibly releasing some experimental bio agent on their own population? They do that sort of thing in China (and other countries closer to home I might add) ALL the damn time.
A rocket/missile has exhaust...
Not necessarily... Remember the Norway Spiral?
www dot universetoday dot com/47219/what-was-the-norway-spiral/
If said rocket has already entered low Earth orbit it has already burned it stages, and if you have the right lighting and atmospheric conditions, the light of the low-horizon sun illuminates high atmospheric ice crystals disturbed by the passage of the rocket. Notice how this video is also taken at twilight?
Besides, you can see the classic "wiggly line" exhaust trail further to the left towards the beginning of the video.
I've heard a vast number of theories in terms of the whole alien thing. Do I believe aliens exist? Yeah, I'm inclined to believe so. My brother says he's had an experience with a UFO. Was out one night in front of our house, looked up at the sky and saw very bright yellow lights in a v formation moving slowly in sync together and then shot out of his sight really quickly. He described each of the lights as being pretty large. He said each light was about the size of an airplane. It didn't make any noise or anything. Said he had never seen anything like it.
My dad has a degree in history, so he pretty much knows all about different aircrafts used over time. He doesn't know what it could be. Coulda been some secret government plane or something but I have no idea why they would want to come to my small town.
I think The Demon-Haunted World by Carl Sagan should be mandatory reading. It would really clear up a lot of these alien stories.
I don't care if it's been debunked, i still don't believe in the reports and i never will believe the reports it was a rocket spinning out of controll forming that spiral from the gasses coming out the back. Do i think it's aliens? no, but it's probably some type of secret project someone was doing and their cover story was a rocket. But people can believe what they want, i'm just not buying their story. Looks like some type of spiral portal, as for what for...who knows and it really does not matter. People want to believe it's a cover story because they believe everything they are told. All they give you is a story to go by, no video evidence and if there was it could have easily been faked. It's not hard to fake something like that if you're good at that. I buy into most debunked reports but hell no to this one.
dem ignorant rocket scientists, it's a portal, portal!!!
A person who has the audacity to say this:
I don't care if it's been debunked, i still don't believe in the reports and i never will believe the reports it was a rocket spinning out of controll forming that spiral from the gasses coming out the back.
Shouldn't really be talking about ignorance.
de·bunk verb \(ˌ)dē-ˈbəŋk\
Definition of DEBUNK
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ANyway back on topic about aliens.
Also, how do magnets work?
Little invisible fairies ride around in and around one end and little invisible aliens ride around in and around the other. The little invisible aliens and the little invisible fairies are at war. But they are allied with the opposite in other magnets. So when one magnet gets brought near another magnet, the little invisible fairies in magnet A will swing the magnet around to attempt to do the nasty with the little invisible aliens that live on the other magnet. Their hope is to create a super race of little invisible alien/fairy hybrids that will bring peace.
The interesting thing is that if you cut the magnet in two, members from both race will take up residence on it and continue their battle.
What Philosopher is trying to say is that magnets work because they are made of tiny magnets.
Right. But I was attempting to provide an accompanying ontology consistent with the present level of discourse.
Just because they say it was "debunked" doesn't mean they proved what it was.
Aliens do exist and they visit earth. There are the blues, the greys who are the blues slaves, there are reptilians that don't visit earth anymore because the other aliens won't let them and there are these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp2txd0tQ8U
All the ones presently watching us and visiting earth are on our side. The reptilians were not but we don't have to worry about them anymore.
There are also like three other species of alien I am not even aware of.
http://www.philosophy.thecastsite.co...untedworld.pdf
Chapter 4, please and thank you.
wow I read the quotes in the first two pages and I already like it... I'll read it later
Well I myself do not believe aliens exist but one things for sure, if there are additional complex life chemistry amongst the cosmos. They would surely be carbon based like us.
All that is is they wake up and have SP, then fall back to sleep and dream of that other stuff. Of course it COULD be true because they know how ignorant people are and they will be covered because of "SP" and falling back to sleep so they do this to the humans and others will laugh at them....who really knows. I guess you'd have to have a 2nd person in the room with that other person and they will tell the others they really were in bed or they got taken away.
inb4 goddunit
I'm skeptical of claims of abductions, UFO sightings, and the like. However, I have no reason to believe life is exclusive to Earth.
In this day and age, special effects have made such leaps and bounds.
However I think that special effects has also managed to somehow stunt the imagination of the masses. What is usually the first response to photos or footage of UFOs, and "otherworldly ideas?"
Many criticize due to the ease with which fakery can be passed off as truth -- in other words, the footage/photographs appear so clear that they must be faked.
To reiterate an earlier idea, this expresses a crucial turning point in our consciousness: We have learned how to confuse reality so well through technology that it is no longer possible to definitively determine what is "real."
Ultimately, we already choose the reality we live in by selecting what to see and what not to see, what to believe and what not to believe. Whether you live in a world where alien drones monitor the population or a world where manipulative hoaxers maliciously spread false images is, for now, determined solely by your choice of belief.
schizophrenia :paranoid:
Hey man, saltyseedog, I am still wondering how you could know that there are three types of aliens you don't know about?
My spirit guide told me
You're conflating serious and honest.
Yes