Yeah.... I thought that the topic was about abilities in DREAMS...
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Yeah.... I thought that the topic was about abilities in DREAMS...
Then why are you on this forum????Quote:
Originally Posted by Scatterbrain
Actually there have been several tests through university labs that have proven precognition over & over again, but all the ignorant people look away... The same thing happens with the ability... You prove it & people look away or think its coincidence.
I got 5 scratch offs for this women i worked with. I held one of the cards & had a feeling. i handed her the cards & said scratch this one last, its atleast $15.. She did & it was $30. her eyes filled with greed. She dissregaurded my psychic claims just pryer & went on her buisness. Another time i went into the bar & felt it walking through the doorway.. I made a 3 number keno of my birthday. i started getting impatient because the waitress wasnt coming by. Infact i was pissed, cause i KNEW. everyone was you dont know it may win on the next round, i said no it was for this one. The game started & my 3 numbers came up. They overlooked it. One day i woke up & said today i am going to have a precog. I was getting a creme yellow. Later that night someone said"what is it your special powers??" I drew into myself & looked into the brightest light in the room, the kitchen.. the walls were creme white, & i thought how ignorant the world was that i was having a precog that very moment they made fun of me. I dreamt baloon boy, but didnt write it down, because how rediculous a dream about a silver baloon that looks like a flying saucer. would you have written baloon boy down??? I think not. When i was 4 i dreamt my dog dying, but thought it was just a dream, because the carpet was dark brown & a dark blue couch, but the dog was next to a coffee table we always had. We moved a year later & it happened.. The house had dark brown carpet & the new blue couch. 2 weeks ago i had a dream i was at the restaurant with the bosses son, 1 week later my boss calls me up & asks me to let her son into the restaurant, thus the dream played out. I have avoided 3 accidents. 1. a metal beam falling on my head, 2. a windy day while roofing i almost fell off a 3 story 3. almost getting run over at a crosswalk, if i hadnt had those dreams i would be ground beef.
If you wanted proof, you would be looking for it, but you have already decided your results. its not our job to google for info, you will find it almost instantly if you actually even looked. Precognition & supposedly telepathy as well, but i KNOW precognition is real because i have had a minimum of 3-5 events a month, sometimes more. So hopefully you will buy me that $3000 EEG machine so i CAN prove it. Its the fact that roughly 80% of the world are not capable of utilizing gamma. & from what studies show, these people choose not to impliment gamma due to fear. They fear it, & by fearing it & not accepting it, they oppress their abilities. It also is somewhat related to bloodlines & birthdate & time. So the only reason people deny it exsists is out of fear & repression. Or they have very small brains. It is true that most brains work in the delta-beta range, while a handful can use a epsilon-gamma range. I would say it sucks to be you, but it was very hard growing up with this strange ability. Law number 1, you cant use repetition to prove precognition, its just retarded, yet thats what these highly trained scientists do, so why would they be purposefully trying to disprove something??? Maybe this should make us more curious to find some real answers since smart people are behaving very stupidly(maybe an agenda). Universities are in liberation at this very moment & there is multiple up to date documentations on new testing methods that have infact proved precognition, several times over. I'm sick of lazy ignorance, that thinks they can pull the old Tom Sawyer on everyone to do their work for them... Its like almost brainless to search for answers on google. If you cant find the data, then your not trying. If you dont try then you dont want to change your mind, or even listen to the facts. The ability is guided by emotions, if society keeps discouraging psionics, it will always hide in its shell. & even when it presents itself the delta-betas look away. Its like trying to prove we are smarter than a monkey, when the monkey doesnt care to listen & just keeps thinking BANANA. Its a hopeless cause to assist you guys out of planet of the apes.
BD isn't for skeptics, *cough*Quote:
Originally Posted by Scatterbrain
DD is so much better than BD, because there are no skeptics in there... much less hassle, much more good, deep discussion.
Um if you want proof, I made a group on Facebook, invited some friends who were interested and wanted proof (like you), and posted some videos of me doing fire manipulation... one of them became a believer that very day, another said that I, "HAD TO HAVE FAKED IT SOMEHOW I mean omg I can't even see how you did that omg!!"
And it wasn't fake :)
I considered inviting you to the group just to give you proof and shut you up, but then I realized that you would then know my real name and shit so :paranoid:
But, believe me, I'm not making this up.
What reason would this many people have to lie on the internet?
On the internet!
There's nothing to gain, I don't know you in real life and neither do any of the other people here (probably), soo...
Making stuff up to look cool on the internet is stupid.
I'm not making any of it up.
Although I'm sure there's many people who would disagree with this, I wasn't accusing anyone of lying though.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakataDreamer
Anyway, let's look at it objectively for a second: how come every claim of telekinesis is always based on a subjective event that could and often does happen by means of natural forces? (very thin and light paper wheel resting a needle, round objects rolling, fire moving, etc...)
Instead of making objects roll or slide, make them lift up into the air. Better yet, lift sand or water, make them form intricate shapes in the air. Make things move in a way they normally don't.
The first post states nothing that these are dream-only abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Portalboat
... besides, PSI is a wide-category of abilities that can't really be limited to 'just dreams'.
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Originally Posted by defygravity
I highly doubt that learning PSI abilities that were not inherit is impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scatterbrain
Of course, I've heard opinions from both sides of the river. Some have said that to speculate that it is impossible to 'learn' PSI is an elitist, and ultimately untrue notion. Those of the other end have said that they've had enough unadept people rant about how it is 'unfair' to them,... enough to satisfy a lifetime of dealing with whiny people, but frankly, some are adept in PSI, and some are not, and that is how things are.
I know this because I was one of the earlier. In a way, the notion somewhat tugs at me here and there, but honestly, its a simplistic fact: Some are just not adept in the ways of PSI. ... Whilst the ego contains an inherent diligence to the idea that 'nothing is impossible',... obviously, some things are less impossible for some, and more impossible for others, for if this fact wasn't true according to the entire nature of all things, then there wouldn't be any struggle for power in the world as we know it. No differences. Everyone would be equal.
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I'm still stubborn to assume that it is not impossible, despite everything.
... because I do not believe dreams (not 'zzzz' dreams, but life-goal dreams) deserve to die simply because one is less able to fulfill them.
I believe there was this ONE dude a long time ago that... when he stepped on a lake,... he didn't end up find himself fighting his way to the surface seconds after. Apparently, when he stepped on lakes, he could stand on the surface of the water, and walk on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Scatterbrain
*facepalm*
What was his name again? *strokes chin*
... Meh. Long story short, however, he is now at the butt of every sacrilegious joke, because a good handful of his followers messed up his rep,... big time! ... Poor dude. =( ... He didn't deserve to get the shaft like that, and especially from his own crew. But then again, people also say he wasn't real.
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Point being: I'm pretty sure that any great feat, EVEN if it opposed physics and nature, can STILL be bashed by throngs of skeptics in the end.
What would the point be, when people are going to refuse it anyhow?
I said "You wouldn't" as in "psi isn't real".Quote:
Originally Posted by Nam3less One
Jebus is a fictional character, you don't use Superman as proof that flying is possible. It was implied I was talking about people in the present and the type of feats they use to prove their abilities to others and themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nam3less One
"No proof is given because no one will accept it"? That's a very bad excuse, clearly untrue. How else would we have advanced so much in science and technology? If something is discovered which contradicts an established theory, that theory will be replaced by another that does a better at explaining the facts.
I know this thread is necro, and I know this is beyond dreaming, but come on. If yall had abilities like this, don't you think people would KNOW about it?
Telepathy, controlling elements like water and fire? What is this? X-men?
Sorry, unless you can consistently predict what is going to happen next on a day to day basis, I'd pass it off as coincidence.
Controlling fire and water? I don't believe it either, across the ages, SOMEONE would be abusing this kind of power, and it would be recorded and scientifically tested.
If you can get a ride down here i'll prove it to you, i've shown my wife and my best friends my abilities and i'm currently working on teaching my best friend (whom i've known since i was 7 and i'm now 21) some of my abilities... I'll be more than happy to show you, it may take a little bit because i know for a fact that skepticism is a powerful distraction for the mind especially when one is trying to prove these abilities to someone else, that is why i was only able to show my wife and best friends because they weren't thinking "he can't do this, he's a fraud and a sham, i'm wasting my time here". The simple fact is that 90% of the people that can do these things will almost always agree with me on this one fine point: We don't feel we need to prove anything to anyone, that it's a waste of our time to spend our life trying to make you contempt and to convince you when we have loved ones who have experienced it and that alone is enough for us... Also, I find it very difficult to "Show off" my abilities because it puts me in a distracted mindset and i can't focus...Quote:
Originally Posted by Exdream
Now i have never categorized it because i view it differently, i view it as energy influencing other energy... i kind of have the mindset John Travolta has in Phenomenon after the particular event...
Not a distraction, it's a filter against false claims and ideas.Quote:
Originally Posted by MementoMori
You know, I usually look into things with an open-mind....but when I heard of psionics and moving shit with your mind..I was like WHAT! LOL
But this pretty much blew me away!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1608079567116#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...8442864018496#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...6119958740585#
http://www.psipog.net/media-ni-watch.html
The last one is the best. This guy is good!
With telekinesis being possible...this really explains a LOT. Subconscious beliefs really do change reality. It only makes sense why sigil magic and law of attraction works. IN this case, skepticism is exactly what PREVENTS you from creating or using psionics.
Check out Psipog.net Good info on there.
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Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD
I've felt this psi energy at times during meditation, and can manipulate it around various parts of my body. I know this spiritual or chi energy is real, or whatever you want to call it.
BUT YOU CAN MAKE IT VISIBLE?? :shock: HOLY SHIT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2yaj-QmooM
I guess the only way to find out is to practice psiballs. But i can only seeing it take months of practice to making it visible. I'm going to start practicing this. I'm getting better with visualization anyway.
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Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD
Four muted low-quality videos that just show a close up of an object doing very repetitive movements (and also never lifting) is enough to convince you that an undefined subjective "energy" that contradicts well validated bodies of knowledge actually exists. Seriously?
There's much better videos than those. There were two I recall that were even admitted fake and part of a social experiment by the author.
Unfortunately, every telekinesis video I've seen always presents feats that are very limited (i.e. could be faked with relative ease) or caused by natural sources.
Of course a video can hardly be used as proof, a video of an unique feat could still be attributed to an elaborate trick or CGI. But such a video would still be a source of intrigue, even more so if the claimant could quickly produce more videos on demand (just the time to film and upload, much faster than someone who would have to fake the whole thing through whatever method). That would certainly make people go "hmmm interesting..." rather than "haha, new agers :roll:".
I find it's a art truly a fully. It starts in your mind, then you work on manifesting it into reality threw meditation and an intense fervor in the belief that it is real and then you move to crafting how your mind see's it. At this point it becomes a true matter of belief because if for just a second you doubt any of it, it falls back to just being a thought only able to be expressed in your mind. Once you have the thing which you want to do cemented into your mind as being real and simply dormant within yourself, start practicing ways of "forcing" the thing out into the real world. what's funny is i've used psi balls for years and not noticed it lol, i use to implement them whenever i tried closing a door and knew it wasn't going to make it, i'd get this strong sense telling me to just reach out motion for it to close, and more often than not the door, be it a fridge door or house door would, at the point i reached out motioned for it to close would stop losing it's kinetic energy and continues to close until shut, now at times it would shut with the same speed as my hand and other times i would just exert the "thought" at the door and walk away hearing it close behind me. These doors would not be moving slowly but be at the very edge of coming to a halt, and i would reach out and manipulate the. Also, when you happen to exert telekinesis it almost feels in your mind that you still touching the object but with your mind more so
In the future, psionics will be laughing at all the scheptics for being so dumb.
I never moved objects, maybe if you werent born with it, you cant do it...I can however control my own charge, but have no idea how to channel it... I Usually start cooking the brain. I can also align my pulse to rythms. warm up on a cold day. :oops: And my belt buckle can move a compass.:shock:
more like being "lost". *sigh*, I really do feel sorry for them..but i guess it's just not their time yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsayer
I kinda consider myself a skeptic and I think it sucks :p I don't wanna be a skeptic really... But my mind needs proof before it believes anything. And even though I tried doing this psi stuff a while ago, I guess the very reason it will not work for me is... Because even if I wanna believe it's real, in my subconscious I'm still doubting it is not. And I don't have any friends that are into it, which sucks as well :pQuote:
Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD
Pfft, how to get out of that mindset... The whole energy manipulation concept could be very well possible if you think about it, yet there's no reason yet to believe it is. And why do I need a reason first? Well...
There are so much things that are possible and I'm open to all of them, I mean it IS possible that we're living in 'The Matrix'... We wouldn't know, right?
I'm trying to say: It's not because it's possible that it's real.
So how can I make up the difference between possibility and reality? Well... by thrustworthy proof.
So I'm guessing one 'real' encounter would trigger me for good, but you can't trust the internet... So where am I gonna find it :p
PS: Interesting videos, makes we wonder why no ones tries levitation of objects, that's so much cooler.
Well, if we could pick which ones we could do, then you would be like a God, but we are mostly just recieving signals, others may be able to manipulate signals & or change the future. I am pretty sure that believe doesnt work, If you were born with an ability, you come to a state of KNOWING.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ladon
A 2006-2010 power-necro. Kudos, Dreamsayer.
My power? I can move my body with my mind.
Very powerful in the force, this one is... lol jkQuote:
Originally Posted by Abra
NO WAY!! That is truly incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abra
I'm sort of a "sheptic" at this point have read some stuff on this and realizing it's not exactly what I thought it was. But I'm not claiming it doesn't exist. I wouldn't be surprised if it did. I'm just more skeptical that such a high percentage of people on one forum would have such powers. I dunno.
So, to fully clarify, would you say that either:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamsayer
A) No feat is impossible for anyone to achieve. There is very little a gap between knowing/doing and not knowing/doing. Those who are inherent with these abilities have a head start, but the rest of humanity can certainly grow into knowing/doing.
B) No feat is impossible, but some things are more impossible for some, and less impossible for others. Those who are inherent in these abilities will find it to great ease, and those who are not can certainly take steps to grow further into knowing/doing, but not at the ease of the inherent population. There is a vast gap, but with the correct efforts, it is difficult, but not impossible to cross.
C) Some feats are simply impossible for some, and exceptionally possible for others. Those who are born with these abilities are the only ones who understand/do them. If you are not, there is not way you could understand, and you have no ability to grow into understanding. There is an impenetrable gap, and it is not crossable.
D) An alternative explaination
I'd say choice B
Although it's very hard for those that it doesn't come inherent to, to actually know what it is they're looking to learn to do...for the ones that it comes natural to they know the ability and its associated results, feeling, and basically the very nature of the ability. Whereas those who are trying to learn it are at a loss for direction to lead them to it. It's best explained like trying to learn a foreign language by just watching non subtitled movies in that language as the only way to learn the language. It would take ALOT of time and SEVERE dedication, and even then you're almost always going to be learning small bits and pieces you initially missed what's screwing you up with piecing it all to together correctly.
Now that is if you attack it with a skeptic mind, going at it with a open mind and strong mental will power helps one hundred times more.
I think all of them are right. Its not exactly easier to advance for ones born into it, commonly it may be do to post traumatic stress or near death, so their path is harder, than say some girl growing up in a mystical family. I think there is some that dont inhibit abilities that will never accept it into their reality. I believe that ones who seek it & find something, may have already had it, but were just not sold on it till that moment. I think if anyone with a open mind have a potencial to accel in finding their abilities.... I dont think everyone going for telekinesis is going to motivate them after they discover they cant. They dont want anything but manipulating matter(which is extremely rare), like they would be bummed out... "well poo, all i can do is read emotions." or "Oh, i got stuck with telepathy" Everyone that doesnt have anything, go for psychokynesis... So i think alot will stray away after they find they dont have superman xray vision. But they should be happy with whatever it is, even if its smelling into the future.