Telekinesis

**DeepSleepDreamer** · 12-31-2009 11:19 AM

Lately I was on you tube and i discovered this thing called telikinesis it's where one can move and change objects without touching them by using energy. There a loads of videos on you tube and although its scientifically impossible i'm am still really confused over whether it exists.( probaably because I want it to exist) Can anyone enlighten me on this subject?

Excuse me if I have spelt telikinesis wrong.

**Rainman** · 12-31-2009 05:26 PM

Telekinesis or psychokinesis is the same principal- the concept that one can alter the physical state, nature, or location of another object or being. That's my own definition, but I think it's essentially right.

There are varying theories about how it works, and even if it's real or not. Obviously, there's almost none, if any at all, scientific evidence supporting the possibility of moving objects with one's mind, but there are many people who claim to be able to do it.

Personally, I'm highly skeptical about it, but I don't reject the possibility of it completely. I've recently read some articles from the HeartMath institute which are trying to prove and confirm research that suggests that human neurology can create shifts in one's immediate surrounding space through physiological vibration, among other things which I won't pretend to know, in a way that can be received or perceived by another human's neurology, resulting in a change of moods.

I believe that this is a HUGE breakthrough if they can successfully prove it (they may have already, I haven't checked it out in a long time) because this may provide some insight into whether or not telekinesis (TK) / psychokinesis (PK) can be deemed scientifically possible. I might write a post about this soon.

**nina** · 12-31-2009 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Rainman

I might write a post about this soon.

Please do, I'd be interested to read it. Every strange thing I have experienced has been a result of experiencing higher or alternative vibrations, so I have no doubt that if such things truly exist, vibrations are definitely the key.

As for the OP, I think it's safe to assume that most (if not all) those videos on you tube of people practicing TK are bogus. I don't even bother searching for them anymore, because I'm sick and tired of everything turning out to be fake. How disappointing. I hate liars. Especially regarding this sort of phenomena which I feel as though I have personally experienced on some level.

**Rainman** · 12-31-2009 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Please do, I'd be interested to read it. Every strange thing I have experienced has been a result of experiencing higher or alternative vibrations, so I have no doubt that if such things truly exist, vibrations are definitely the key.

I think I probably will. Posters on this forum such as RCLefty and Xei have really helped me to look at some things more critically. I'd love to believe in TK, and I think it could be possible, but I really wanna get the science behind it. The series of articles I was reading talk a lot about the power behind intent. Which is why some people's words carry different meaning. Several people with different backgrounds and mental states of being can say the exact same sentence, and get completely different results. Largely because of the subcommunicated factors within their behavior, but also, in my opinion, because of this alledged ability of human neurology to actually create subtle changes or ripples that other people can pick up on.

My guess is, if this is true with humans, (that humans can unconsciously sense, and respond to these changes in vibrations, or whatever it is) that objects and elements can as well. It's really quite exciting to think about.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I hate liars. Especially regarding this sort of phenomena which I feel as though I have personally experienced on some level.

Oh yes. Unfortunately, those who lie not only give false hope, but also destroy credibility of those who actually may have experienced the phenomena, or people who are trying to prove that it exists.

**maxy126** · 12-31-2009 11:50 PM

Recently I have been looking at tk vids too and I'm a beliver not only beacause of the footage on YouTube but I recently tried spinning a psiwheel and within 30 mins I could spin it for almost hours in the same direction I say try it for urself

**nina** · 12-31-2009 11:56 PM

Well a lot of those videos have been proven to be faked. Even the ones that looked most authentic sadly.

Oh...google: Nina Kulagina. Check out her videos on you tube. I find them to be quite impressive.

As for the psi wheel...I'm not sure. I can't rule out things like static electricity. I prefer trying with more substantial objects, but usually have best results with anything electronic. Though it always ends up in the electronics shorting out. This could also be static electricity though, I dunno.

**maxy126** · 01-01-2010 12:02 AM

i know that nina girl is crazy she stopped a frogs heart beating too and killed it lmao but ive seen people where static bands and still move it + using bowls to rule out blowing and someone move a pen and showing paper next to it but only the pen moving i wanna try and develop my tk enough to perform tests + im wondering at what limit is tk at i mean is it possible to pickup cars and throw them lol.. mabye not but just a theory

have u tryed a psi wheel?

**nina** · 01-01-2010 12:15 AM

Honestly, if ANYONE had any proof that psi was real, they would probably have a million dollars by now (or at least heavy media coverage). I'm sure you've heard of the James Randi million dollar challenge? Though I've also heard that it's a scam, so who can know.

Not to discourage you or anything, but I'm just saying...no...no one is picking cars up with their minds and throwing them lol. If they were...we would know. Also...DO NOT believe everything you see on you tube. If someone puts a video up, please do research on them before being convinced of anything. I have found that a quick google search of a lot of these people reveals that they are actors, or are using a very well known magic trick. Just approach everything with an open mind, but use your rational/critical thinking skills as well.

edit: Psi Wheel possibly debunked: http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/...Psi-Wheel.html

**maxy126** · 01-01-2010 12:19 AM

the psi wheel was debunked? for what + if i can use tk well enough i would try that challenge i also heard its a scam too + ur right i dont believe everything on youtube just the vids of ppl tryin to figure out wat it is lol

**maxy126** · 01-01-2010 12:38 AM

ok i watched the vid, i use one hand on the psi wheel and it normally spins one way but then i think to push it the other way and it does it, so that cant be heat or else it would be eratic right? also i can push the wheel not as strongly but with my mind alone whilst my hand is nowhere near the wheel..

**nina** · 01-01-2010 04:30 PM

??

Do you move your hand when it changes directions?

I honestly don't know. I would suggest doing your own search for psi wheels, because a lot of people have a lot to say about them. If there is a simple explanation for it, I know I personally would be annoyed if I sat there spinning a psi wheel for hours, only to find it had a very simple explanation. But I really can't find anything regarding some of the issues...like...moving it with your mind alone and no hands. I'm not really interested enough in the psi wheel though to do an extensive search for you. That video was just the first debunking thing I found, and hence why I said "possibly" debunks.

**Rainman** · 01-02-2010 01:18 AM

Wow, I checked out the Nina Kulagina on youtube... that's pretty impressive! Apparently all under lab controlled circumstances too. Then again, that was a video, and anything on video could be fake. Acted. Hell, people all over the country believed that the Blair Witch Project was real because of a farce documentary that was on the History channel a week before the movie came out.

Same with the war of the worlds radio broadcast. People believed that too. Does anyone actually know where that documentary on Nina Kulagina came from?

If it is real- holy shit!

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Honestly, if ANYONE had any proof that psi was real, they would probably have a million dollars by now (or at least heavy media coverage). I'm sure you've heard of the James Randi million dollar challenge? Though I've also heard that it's a scam, so who can know.

Yes, it's a scam. Evidently someone went on there and won, and Randi offered one million dollars in bonds, not cash. Also, he's an asshole. He just likes to make a mockery out of people, he's not interested in seeing if something is real for the sake of human knowledge and advancement, he just likes to bully people.

**nina** · 01-02-2010 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by Rainman

Yes, it's a scam. Evidently someone went on there and won, and Randi offered one million dollars in bonds, not cash. Also, he's an asshole. He just likes to make a mockery out of people, he's not interested in seeing if something is real for the sake of human knowledge and advancement, he just likes to bully people.

Wait, what? Do you have any reference for that? Not the assshole part, that's a proven fact

...just the bit about someone winning, etc. that seems very unlikely.

Last I heard he was stopping the challenge in March of 2010. But never heard anything about what you mentioned.

**Rainman** · 01-02-2010 02:43 AM

Nope, no reference. I remember Oneironaut or Jeff or someone posted a link with an article about it last year. Well two years ago. I'll try to find it.

Edit: http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...he.html?cat=17

That link is about all the legal BS that James Randi puts into his application contracts. Still can't find the article about finding out that they only pay in bonds. Not to mention, Randi creates unfair hoops for people so that he can cling onto his money, and then reframes the situation to make him look like the good guy.

**Merro** · 03-03-2010 08:33 PM

I've seen some telekenisis videos on youtube and most of them were fake. Most people make fake videos using invisible tape or strings to make it look real.

I've seen some pyrokenisis videos too where you use your energy to control fire. I've read up on Telekenisis awhile back and my mom caught me and was yelling at me and thought I was looking at Witchcraft stuff. Talk about paranoid.

She thought Telekenisis was involved with Wicca and Witchcraft and forbided me reading it. It was stupid.

**Jesus of Suburbia** · 03-05-2010 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by DeepSleepDreamer

Lately I was on you tube and i discovered this thing called telikinesis it's where one can move and change objects without touching them by using energy. There a loads of videos on you tube and although its scientifically impossible i'm am still really confused over whether it exists.( probaably because I want it to exist) Can anyone enlighten me on this subject?

Excuse me if I have spelt telikinesis wrong.

There are many different forms of Psychokinesis. I know that WatakaDreamer performs Cyrokinesis and Pyrokinesis. I've tried them, and only had success with Pyrokinesis.
Here's a list of all the different recognized types;
Psychokinesis is the umbrella term for various related specialty abilities, which may include:

* Telekinesis; movement of matter (micro and macro; move, lift, agitate, vibrate, spin, bend, break, or impact)

* Speed up or slow down the naturally occurring vibrations of atoms in matter to alter temperature,[39] possibly to the point of ignition if combustible (also known as pyrokinesis when speeding up vibrations, and cryokinesis when slowing them down).[40]
* Self levitation (rising in the air unsupported, flying).[41]

* Influencing events (sports, gambling, election, prolongation of life, etc.).
* Biological healing.
See also Category:Supernatural healing
* Teleportation (disappearing and reappearing elsewhere).
* Phasing through matter.
* Transmutation of matter.
* Metamorphosis Shape-shifting.
* Energy shield (force field).
* Control of magnetism.
* Control of photons (light waves/particles).
* Thoughtform projection aka telepathic projection (a physically perceived person, animal, creature, object, ghostly entity, etc., created in the mind and projected into three-dimensional space and observable by others; for thought images allegedly placed on film, see Thoughtography).

Some of these are self explanatory, others I'll let you find on your own.
Personally I believe Telekinesis is real, but only to certain humans. Most-probably the ones with the most developed brains, ergo stronger brainwaves.