Thread: Is this for real?

Obviously I am very interested and I think this sounds just about to good to be true. I mean I hope that this isn't just something a bunch of treehuggers and voodoo people made ip .. just kidding...

Well I would really like to start doing this but I don't know if I have what it akes to attain a decent dream recall. I have put a notebook by my bed and hope for the best.. It's important to get enough sleep, but I really don't know if thats possible because I'm 16 and well I do have stress and blablabla.

I don't really know if I want to wake up every 90 minutes becuase that would drive me insane.

I know you've heard this before, but PLEASE give me some pointers. I need to hear them from an actual person.

hi crillep, welcome to DreamViews.

Lucid Dreaming is definately not just something 'made up by treehuggers and voodoo people'. dreams themselves are natural and everyone dreams every night, wether they remember them or not. sometimes people will have lucid dreams naturally but not realize what it is, and some have a few without even knowing about it because some people choose to ignore dreams completely. Lucid Dreaming may be highly glorified by certain religions and groups, but (and you will see this the more you frequent this forum) there are all kinds of lucid dreamers- buddhists, christians, wiccans, athiests, and so on.

as for dream recall, it's great that you've decided to keep a journal, as it's considerably helpful in building dream recall and will also help you find your personal dreamsigns. dreamsigns, used with reality checks, is an excellent start for beginners.

you don't necessarily have to wake up every 90 minutes! Dreams occur during REM sleep, and the length of each REM sleep period increases the longer you are alseep, so the best thing to do would be to wake up after several hours of sleep(maybe about 4-6?), when you'll be having longer and more vivid dreams. if you are using an alarm clock, make sure that it is loud enough to wake you up but not so loud that it jolts you awake, which can make it harder to remember your dreams.

when you first wake up, keep your eyes closed and lay still. (opening your eyes and moving around alot can make recalling dreams much more difficult.) focus only on what you just dreamed about- don't think about what you're going to do today, or anything else. don't force. just relax and let it come to you. if you don't remember anything at all, think about how you feel. emotions can carry over from dreams, so it may help you remember something. if you still get nothing, think about the things that have been on your mind lately, like problems, worries, desires, goals, etc. also think about places you often go and people you often see. dreams are a reflection of the things you think about during the day. if you get anything, anything at all, however much or little it may be- write it down. writing it down can help you remember more.

I would recommend that you work on building your recall until you can remember at least 2-3 per night (which will probably happen sooner than you think), and then try working with Dreamsigns and Reality Checks. you could also try any of the techniques, but if you do I'd recommend that you consentrate on one technique at a time, (maybe one per week, whatever you think would be best) instead of doing many at once- to prevent stress. stress usually has a very negetive effect on dream recall and working with dreams in general. don't worry, just about anyone can learn to lucid dream, as long as you believe that you can do it and put in a little effort. most people have their first Lucid Dream within a month of trying.

I would highly recommend that you check out the Tutorials Section as it has alot of helpful information. if you have any other questions feel free to post them or send a Private Message to a member of the staff.

thank you oh so much for your reply, I am definetly going to try this. I do have one more question. Last night I woke up with my alarm clock and tried to remember but I could only remember where I was in the dream and what I was doing. I wrote in my journal:

disco
no go home
green stuff

Should I have spent more time trying to remember? Written down more?

Originally posted by crillep

I don't really know if I want to wake up every 90 minutes becuase that would drive me insane.

Actually, REM cycles tighten up as the night progresses. Only the first REM cycle is out by 90 minutes. when setting a progressive timer, it is perhaps more realistic to set for the first beep at 90 minutes, then the next for 80, and then 70, then 60.

Typically men can fall asleep more quickly than women... I wonder what they must have on their minds? If you have had a troubled day, full of guilt and remorse, than by all means would should not disturb one's sleep, as it will be difficult enough to attain to. But if one has had a peaceful day and can fall asleep with a clean conscience, then repeated awakenings should not present much difficulty.

YOu should tyr to just wrihgt down eveyrting you remebr and ask your self "what happened beofre that?" More the the dream will unfold itself to you.

Yeah actually I did start wrting down what I remembered then in a few minutes I remembered what happened before that and that happened again. Theres alot I don't remember but I filled out a few pages, and then later today something reminded me of my dream so I added that too.

Maybe this won't be so difficult after all.

But I do only have 1 alarm clock so i can only wake up once in the night, cuz theres no way I'm gonna set it again and again.

Shouldn't waking up once in the night be enough and then the morning, then you have probably at least 1 or 2 dreams.[/quote]

Originally posted by Leo Volont
Actually, REM cycles tighten up as the night progresses. Only the first REM cycle is out by 90 minutes. when setting a progressive timer, it is perhaps more realistic to set for the first beep at 90 minutes, then the next for 80, and then 70, then 60.

Umm... I always thought that it goes like this: Every 90 minutes you start a new REM-period. The first period starts 90 minutes after you fall asleep, but it's pretty short and still quite deep sleep. When the night goes further on, REM-periods will become longer and longer and they won't be so deep anymore. That's why you have a greater chance to remember those morning dreams and become lucid during them. So it would be something like 90min deep sleep, 10 min REM, 80 min deep slee, 20 min REM, 70 min deep sleep, 30 min REM, 60 min deep sleep etc.

Well, maybe someone, who really knows about this stuff, can come and tell how it really is.

No, Lucid Dreaming is very much real, scientifically proven and generally experienced.

Ask someone about the subject, describe what it is and they'll probably be like 'oh i have those'. A lot of people have them regularly but don't realise what they are, or that they can do much anything in them.

Lucid Dreaming is not to be confused with OBEs either, which i believe to be a total fallacy. You will see many people here who are closed-minded as well as open minded, meaning that LDing is a widely accepted thing even among people wh don't usually buy things that sound out-of-the-ordinary.

As with anything you will need to practice at it, occasionally they will come unbidden but it's so rare and random that i wouldnt count on one coming regularly. When you can break into an LD, the fun starts. Getting to know limitations and the extents of your control in a LD is brilliant experience and not at all time consuming.

The only reason why LDing isn't widely known is because of lack of awareness on the subject, and with all the OBE, spiritual and psychic crap (apologies to any offended by that statement ) going on, we live in skeptic times. Keep an open mind and keep at it, when you do get a LD and begin to experiment with it you'll feel great, any doubts you had before will be wiped.

Put simply, trust us.