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      What's the easiest way to enter sleep paralysis?

      Picturing an object, picturing yourself walking up stairs, counting, clearing your mind and just looking at the blackness? What have you guys had the most success with?

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      I still can't see why anyone would want to enter sleep paralysis
      Its the most anoying thing, im so glad that ive never experienced it at night and only in the morning. Iv'e hear it can a be really really terrifying experience e.g. the old woman who climbes on your chest and strangles you!

      Why would you want it?

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      Actually, this is a pretty common condition. Everyone undergoes some sort of paralysis when they sleep to prevent them from getting up and moving around at night. Experiencing sleep paralysis can be very benificial to those who choose to use a WILD as their preferred mode of LDing, HyperNova.
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      It's a stepping stone for entering a WILD.

      Unfortunately I can't answer your question because I've never successfully WILDed, and I've only ever experienced SP once.

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      Originally posted by DuB
      It's a stepping stone for entering a WILD.

      Unfortunately I can't answer your question because I've never successfully WILDed, and I've only ever experienced SP once.
      Huh... look, I've never had a successful WILD, but I've come close on quite a few occaisions. Here's my take.

      Too much emphasis is put on sleep paralysis. Like, for me, I'm at the hypnogogic imagery stage, where I'm seeing complete scens and people talk to me. But sleep paralysis?

      For me, I get it VERY mildly. Sometimes my body will feel like it's vibrating, sometimes I'll get hypnotic jerks and my whole body jerks, sometimes I'll feel like super-gravity, and others it'll just be tingly pins-and-needled. Ususally, it comes in some sort of waves of vibrations, if that makes sense.

      But, like I was saying, sleep PARALYSIS? I think it's a misnomer. After a certain stage, It gets to the point where, if I were to put in an above-average amount of conscious effort, I COULD move my body, but unless I do, it stays still and tingly, and twitches every now and then. I'm not actually paralysed, per se... But, for instance, when I break out of a particularly long, deep time of this "paralysis", my extremities feel prickly and achy and sometimes even a bit painful. It's quite cool, really.

      My take, is that sleep paralysis is very mild for some people (like me) and very extreme for others. I reckon, if you get the vibrations and tinglies, and the occaisional hypnic jerk on some attempts, you're sweet, and don't need to worry about it. (hehehe... I know how stupid that sounds... DONT worry if you're NOT completely paralysed... hehehehe)

      Huh... well, since you're my adoptive mummy and all, Gwen , what d'ya think? Sleep paralysis necessarily essential? Stronger/weaker according to the person?

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      Originally posted by The Blue Meanie


      Huh... look, I've never had a successful WILD, but I've come close on quite a few occaisions. *Here's my take.

      Too much emphasis is put on sleep paralysis. *Like, for me, I'm at the hypnogogic imagery stage, where I'm seeing complete scens and people talk to me. *But sleep paralysis?

      For me, I get it VERY mildly. *Sometimes my body will feel like it's vibrating, sometimes I'll get hypnotic jerks and my whole body jerks, sometimes I'll feel like super-gravity, and others it'll just be tingly pins-and-needled. *Ususally, it comes in some sort of waves of vibrations, if that makes sense.

      But, like I was saying, sleep PARALYSIS? *I think it's a misnomer. *After a certain stage, It gets to the point where, if I were to put in an above-average amount of conscious effort, I COULD move my body, but unless I do, it stays still and tingly, and twitches every now and then. *I'm not actually paralysed, per se... *But, for instance, when I break out of a particularly long, deep time of this "paralysis", my extremities feel prickly and achy and sometimes even a bit painful. *It's quite cool, really.

      My take, is that sleep paralysis is very mild for some people (like me) and very extreme for others. *I reckon, if you get the vibrations and tinglies, and the occaisional hypnic jerk on some attempts, you're sweet, and don't need to worry about it. *(hehehe... I know how stupid that sounds... DONT worry if you're NOT completely paralysed... hehehehe)

      Huh... well, since you're my adoptive mummy and all, Gwen , what d'ya think? Sleep paralysis necessarily essential? *Stronger/weaker according to the person?
      I would say, you are absolutely right. SP levels are different in intensity for different people. Nobody is the same. Hell, it isn't even the same every time for one person. Everyone experiences it, it is just that it isn't always holding your body down to where you absolutely can't move. Experiencing sensations associated with SP is not necessary either. Anyway, you put that very well, Matt.
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      I've only done it once and it was by accident. I had woken up in the middle of the night, so I tried to get back to sleep. I was thinking about the dream I just had, then it happened. I felt the vibrations and heard a distorted laugh, but I didn't see images, just blackness. I wasn't sure what to do, so I started breathing faster. I wasn't able to get to sleep, though.

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      SP is one of my favourite experiences, only because of its high level of intensity for me. It is absolutely extreme. It causes active hallucinations where I have no control over my body and I feel the most queer physical effects from it.

      I have had three that I can easily remember. One of which occurred a few months ago, a close friend of mine was staying over. Being a gentleman I insisted that I sleep on the floor. While there I kept on having terrible visions of a Herst going around me and going under the bed. I wanted to scream, but my mouth wouldn't open and I couldn't move to touch it. I know I was awake because I was conscious. Another occurred a year ago where I imagined that a shadow-man (for lack of an ample description it was like billowing smoke that irradiated the feeling of hate) was in the room. It was staring at me and I had never felt so frightened in my life. As soon as I regained control of my body I shrieked, which frightened my whole family. I'm a fairly large individual and wouldn't be afraid of an intruder in the house and very few people have ever seen me genuinely scared. I sequestered myself in the corner of my bed and continued screaming until my father came to investigate. The final one was similar to an abduction experience that one has while in SP. Strange lights, prickling feelings. That jazz.

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      Huh... see, I feel almost jealous. All I get is just pricklies, numbness, twitches and jerks, and vibrations. I'd LOVE to have freaky-ass hallucinations...

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      Originally posted by The Blue Meanie
      Huh... see, I feel almost jealous. *All I get is just pricklies, numbness, twitches and jerks, and vibrations. *I'd LOVE to have freaky-ass hallucinations...
      Na i heard they can be eally scary!

      SP is pretty common for me. I usually have it a couple of times a mounth although ive never found a good use for it. All i do is try to move my eyes tand strain them so much i jolt awake! i also heard that dreams after and SP are usually nightmares, although that might just be for that person only. So tell me what i should do if a get it agen

      Also when i usualy wake from a SP i axperience this inbetween dream and realtiy where i try to stay awake but seem to be sleeping, although i can see things around me but there usually invaded by cartoon characters and crap.

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      Sometimes I see things, but they've never frightened me. Even if they were intense, knowing that this was part of something that I was inducing would be enough to calm me..

      HyperNova, your attitude about SP is probably the reason why you have not been able to turn it into a lucid dream. SP is a great state to drift off into a dream....If you are already set on being frightened by it, than you most likely will. Try to clear all of those preconcieved notions about SP and then try to drift into a dream while you are in that state. You might be kind of suprised by what you experience.
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      Ye ok thanx ill trry that!

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      Well, to me the easiest way is to try to relax and think about your surroundings. Playing a Video Game while you're tired will work as well, and TV, too!

      I used to have to enter SP, and WILD in order to fall asleep, and it wasn't very pleasant staying up until 1AM, getting up multiple times during the night, whether with an upset belly, or stuck in SP (even though I was only 3, it never frightened me at all...I just knew I was going to fall asleep), and I always knew I was dreaming even then.

      Now, with SP, I can choose between 2 methods: WILD, and ...?.

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      Originally posted by nesgirl119


      Now, with SP, I can choose between 2 methods: WILD, and ...?.
      i've got to ask..what's the deal with the "...?" ? I mean, if you're going to post something in a forum, what's the point of referring to things that are never revealed?
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      Originally posted by mongreloctopus


      i've got to ask..what's the deal with the "...?" ? *I mean, if you're going to post something in a forum, what's the point of referring to things that are never revealed?
      Eh, it is a type of LD that has yet to be revealed.

      The same LD technique in other words I will use in school if I want to listen to the teacher!!

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      Originally posted by nesgirl119


      Eh, it is a type of LD that has yet to be revealed. *

      The same LD technique in other words I will use in school if I want to listen to the teacher!!
      So... like:
      SILD: School Induced Lucid Dream
      or TILD: Teacher Induced Lucid Dream

      Huh... Yeah, see, that sounds easy. I might try that... I'll sneak into my mate's accounting class and try it out.

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      Originally posted by The Blue Meanie

      So... like:
      SILD: School Induced Lucid Dream
      or TILD: Teacher Induced Lucid Dream

      Huh... Yeah, see, that sounds easy. *I might try that... I'll sneak into my mate's accounting class and try it out.
      Oh, and I forgot to mention....read a book you leave open on your desk before you go into SP & WILD in that fashion, and then read it! It is so awesome (splash does it all the time, and so do I!), because then you don't have to read what the teacher told you to later, and blab it in her face!

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      Originally posted by Gwendolyn


      HyperNova, your attitude about SP is probably the reason why you have not been able to turn it into a lucid dream.
      Even though this is unrelated to a SP but..

      i was looking at this forum at night yesterday and about 11:30 i went to bed and fell asleep in 2 mins.

      I had this dream where i fell asleep and noticed a dream sign. So in the dream of a dream i became lucid

      Anyway thats proberly the first time ive become lucid beacuse ive never known about lucidity before until a week ago. But the thing about the dream was although i knew it was a dream (or a dream in a dream) and i was able to put my head through a window and turn it all liquidy I could not do anything else that you can in a lucid dream. And i got a bit destracted on the fact on why two dream characters were not telling me how to fly!

      So was this a real lucid dream or some fake? Any thoughts?

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      I've experienced SP atleast 3 times.
      It's a frieghtning experience,
      basically, I wake up during the night, feeling that an invisible entity is trying to strangle me, and I can't do anything! I try to resist, move my mand .. to fight it, but to no avail; I just can't move.
      Fortunately, it doesn't last too long.

      I didn't know what the hell was that when I had, so I just convince myself that it was a dream, because if it was reality I would be freightened as hell!!

      Anyway, that was before I learned about sleep paralysis, only one hour ago!!

      btw, it's been a while since I've come to dreamviews.

      HyperNova, your attitude about SP is probably the reason why you have not been able to turn it into a lucid dream. SP is a great state to drift off into a dream....If you are already set on being frightened by it, than you most likely will. Try to clear all of those preconcieved notions about SP and then try to drift into a dream while you are in that state. You might be kind of suprised by what you experience.[/b]
      hmm, interesting. Thanks for the advice (even though I'm not HyperNova )
      Maybe this will help calm me a little bit!

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      I've found that the easiest way to enter sleep paralysis is to focus your attention on something external (e.g., ticking of a clock, sound of your breathing, etc.) as you fall asleep.

      Focusing externally in this way has given me a conscious experience of sleep paralysis many, many times (which totally sucks, BTW!). There is nothing more annoying to me than "waking up" to realize that my body is sound asleep, snoring loudly. The vibrations always scare me at first, and even though I always recognize it is simply sleep paralysis I sometimes get irrational thoughts that I am having a brain hemmorage or something. Not cool.

      To actually transition into a lucid dream, however, I recommend focusing internally, prefereably on hypnagogic imagery. The transition is smooth, there is no wasting time listening to yourself snore, and you will get much better at initiating LDs as soon as you close your eyes.

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      welcome to dv.

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