hey all (new)

**Zophael** · 07-25-2004 02:33 AM

Well, I kinda forgot to make a "I am new" post, so concider this it :-)

I already posted 1 or 2 things, one being a small story for the adoption thing. (Come one adopt me, I'm really cute if you get to know me

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Well, erhmz what to say? It's a dream forum so I guess I should start with something like that. I've been dreaming since I was well, born I guess but I don't recall any of the dreams from back then. I have never had a lucid dream though I have experienced a lot in my dreams. (flying etc, those kind of things) I first heard about LD three years ago from an english friend in a gameforum. He had made a post and very entheusiastically pronounced he finally succeeded in having a lucid dream that night. I had no idea what he was talking about and entered "lucid dream" in google and that brought me to a website similar to this one only without a forum. (have no idea which one)

I've always wanted to try it but I'm very much a halfway person. I will say come let's do that and then I will stop somewhere in between. I'm the one that comes with the ideas but not the one who will excecute them.

Back to dreaming. I've had kind of a rough/hard childhood until the age of 12 when I went to high school. It would be safe to say that the only good things in my childhood were books and dreaming. I dream a lot, or perhaps everyone does that and I just recall a lot of them. I always remember the dreams I had during the night when I wake up though if I read everything here I come to the conclusion I only remember a few of all the dreams I have had in a night. When I was younger I strongly felt dreams had a larger meaning, that someway it would warn you of things in the future to come but I don't really know about that anymore.

What I do know is that numerous scientists have said only such a small part of the brain is known that I am confident there is more than "just" dreaming. (aka there's also lucid dreaming) I have kept a fragmentary dream journal from about when I was 8 or 11. I call it fragmented because I only wrote down the good dreams. (I had quite a lot of nightmares back then)

So what brings me here? Well I have an australian friend (Horrigan) whom I met about 3 years ago in the before mentioned game (which sadly is no more) and we're good friends. I mentioned the LDing to him and both of us got interested in it, so here we are. He came a few days earlier and has already found someone so in that view he is ahead of me but whenever we discuss dream recall I notice I have it much easier to recall what I dreamt about.

I think I really could have needed LDing back when I was younger but nowadays the world looks less hostile than it did back then so instead of an escape from reality it seems like a good way to me to experience some movies and or books I know.

I think I had an LD a few days ago when I walked through a burning forest and questioned my surroundings and found out that the leafs were burning but remained green rather than turning back and disappearing. I woke up then but I seriously doubt whether it was an actual LD or whether because I had been reading a lot about it lately it was my mind trying to tell me it was one. I guess I'm good prepared to try this LDing (only need a guide with me to take me through it step by step) not only because of the dream journal I have kept for all these years but also because of my frequent dreaming I have already experienced a lot of the things described here. (false awakenings for example occured often to me in my nightmares as a child, I would go through one nightmare and wake up, glad to be back in my bed by then, only to experience another nightmare right after it)

Well, just 2 more cents and then I will stop. I read about someone wondering whether it was able to have lucid dreams that lasted well over a century. I think it is, I have had frequent dreams of which the longest lasted 2 weeks. (it really felt like that, even after waking up).

so that's me, I hope I haven't bored anyone to sleep yet. Then again, that might be a good thing on these boards

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**gameover** · 07-25-2004 02:39 AM

Welcome to Dreamviews. I was so touched by your tale. With such good dream recall, you have a lot of potential, off the bat. Dream recall is the imprtanmt thing to do to bridge the gap between the dream world and this one. Stick around, because everything you need to know to become lucid, can be found right here. Again, welcome.

**Placebo** · 07-25-2004 02:23 PM

Welcome Zophael!

That *was* quite a post - almost opted not to read it
Glad I did though

As you can tell by my sig, I adopted Horrigan
From the sounds of it you're off to a good start though!
At least you have some semblance of a dream journal

Pity you didn't discover LD's back in the days where it may have helped those series of nightmares! Ah well...

If you need any help, don't hesitate to MSN or PM me

**Zophael** · 07-25-2004 06:38 PM

hehe thanks gameover, I guess I've found my adopter

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Yep Placebo, Horrigan told me you adopted him. I guess you will have to work a bit on his dream recall first.
I'm glad I seem to have the potential for it, now I only need to get some discipline and see it through.

**Alaurast78** · 07-25-2004 07:20 PM

Welcome to Dream Views Zophael!!!

Congrats on being adopted!! i Hope that we will be able to hear about some of your dream experinces. You are well on your way!!! Keep up with that dream journal... good and bad!

If you need anything feel free to contact me and say hey!

Sweet Dreams!!!

**Truthbearer** · 07-25-2004 11:35 PM

WELCOME TO DV!!!!

As you said yourself, the fact you have such a great recall indeed puts you one step ahead already. I suggest you read our tutorials so you can learn more about the induction methods. I suggest you try them all in order to find the one that fits you best...

**Zophael** · 07-26-2004 06:08 PM

I need to get used to some of the abbreviations used, but I already found a glossary for that. I think the best way to start it is trying a WILD out though I will also need to force myself to do reality checks often, making it something like a discipline.

CT · 07-26-2004 06:35 PM

Kaniaz built an excellent list of acronyms in the tutorial section.

En welkom bij DV's, landgenoot

**Zophael** · 07-29-2004 12:33 AM

the Wake By (WBD something) isn't on the list though

I always tend to forget it.

nice to know there are some more dutch people here

**Truthbearer** · 07-29-2004 02:21 AM

Do you mean the WBTB(Wake back to bad) technique?

If so, I'm glad I helped

**Placebo** · 07-29-2004 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Truthbearer
Do you mean the WBTB(Wake back to bad) technique?

If so, I'm glad I helped

I prefer the term 'Wet Back my Bed' myself

**Horrigan** · 07-29-2004 05:29 PM

ill have u all know i have improved my Recall alot

recalled 3 dreams a night , for the past 2 nights

and have had my first LD (although it didnt last long) 8)

**Truthbearer** · 07-29-2004 11:53 PM

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Do you mean the WBTB(Wake back to bad) technique?

If so, I'm glad I helped

I prefer the term 'Wet Back The Bed' myself

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What can I say man, to each his own...

**Zophael** · 07-30-2004 11:17 PM

Well I guess I am coming close to Lucidity, my dream recall is at 6+ dreams per night and I usually have 2 in which I realize I am dreaming. Yet the dream turns it on to me and changes the dream thus that I accept the change and forget about lucidity,

(nightmare changes into something I read in one of my favourite books for example)

**Lowercase Society** · 07-31-2004 07:25 AM

Welcome to dream views...seems like you' set up...

Grammar lesson courtesy of the Truthbearer

**Zophael** · 08-01-2004 10:51 PM

hmmm I'm going really wrong at the moment. I've been at lucid three times now, at the point of becoming it but somehow I choose the""normal" dream instead of becoming fully lucid.

(I become aware I'm dreaming, then something changes in the dream to make the dream itself more pleasant and somehow subconciously I accept the change)

does anyone know how to go about with this?