Thread: skip the first step of wild??

what if you just stay up realy late? would that work instead of sleeping then wakeing up being sleepy and contiously falling asleap? just wondering

You need to fall asleep if you want to have a dream

In spite of the last post, it is possible from what I've read.

I believe it's called REM relapse, caused by over-tiredness I think...where you fall asleep straight into REM (the sleep inwhich you dream), instead of 5-8 hours after going to sleep.

However, how to start REM relapse is a mystery to me. It's really going to be easier for you in the long run to do a WBTB

If you mean staying up late enough to the point you feel yourself falling asleep.I tried that had no luck. But you do get some nice trippy visuals though no Hi's just blobs and spark's and shit. Yeah i bailed out of my plan for a 24 hr sleep dep plan. But i seen two methods that sound like they might work havent tried them yet but im going too .But anyway 1. Just wake up early from like 4 hours of sleep for 3 days on the fourth day just sleep as long as you normaly do.I heard you could get lucid from that because of the rem rebound from cutting your sleep. 2.Ok some say it's an easy way to wild http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...t=37749&page=4 I hope one of them work.

oh ok i was just wondering. i dont mean stay awake forever i ment like almost all night untill you can bear to stay awake any longer and enter a wild

Yeah i tried that and i had no luck. Maybe if i held out a longer it might have worked But I see what your saying. I think it might work. I would give it a try. And can you report back what happens then i might give it another go agian