PaiRoDoX

Greetings! :dancingcow:

I have only heard about lucid dreaming yesterday and it sounds really fascinating. I have always wanted to have my own little "playground". I may have done some lucid dreaming in the past but not remember how I became "lucid" and controlled my dreams, therefore I came to this forum in hopes that maybe I can learn a thing or two about lucid dreaming. Because I am new to the forums and lucid dreaming, I have some questions, which are mainly about lucid dreaming, since I already know how a forum is run. BTW I am aware of how the search feature works, for some reason my really bad computer won`t show any results. (You don't HAVE to answer the questions, a simple hello or a "Welcome!" is fine. These are just questions I would like to know the answers to.)

1. When you are lucid in your dreams how real are objects within the dream? Like, if I were to touch a flower in my dream would it be the same as touching a flower in real life?

2. In the dream world, would you see yourself through your own eyes? or some at some other sort of angle?

3. How long should it take before you have your first lucid dream?

4. How real is the world itself? Like is it exactly the same as looking at the world while awake or would everything look somewhat altered?

5. (Almost similar to question 1) Are the 5 senses available to you in the dream world?

6. How long are most lucid dreams? and how long are lucid dreams when you first start out?

7. At what age would you recommend lucid dreaming to?

8. Are there any dangers to lucid dreaming? Like are there some sort of side effects? Could you die?

9. (And finally...) Let's say you fall off a building. Before you hit the ground would you wake up? or would you continue the fall and end up in heaven?

Sorry for so much questions, but I am really curious. Hopefully my questions will be answered by those who have been through a lucid dream (which is practically everybody on this forum). Thanks for reading and I hope to one day get my first lucid dream!

Oh BTW... I am 15 years old, male, live in Canada, and I am totally single.:goodjob:

Welcome to DV PaiRoDoX!

1. When you are lucid in your dreams how real are objects within the dream? Like, if I were to touch a flower in my dream would it be the same as touching a flower in real life?
It varies from dream to dream, but they can be as real or more real than real life (you'd have to have one before the more real than real life part would make any sense probably).

2. In the dream world, would you see yourself through your own eyes? or some at some other sort of angle?
Both can happen. Some people have more 3rd person dreams (looking at yourself like a movie) and some people have more 1st person dreams (you being yourself).

3. How long should it take before you have your first lucid dream?
It varies greatly. You might have one your first night, or it might take a year or more.

4. How real is the world itself? Like is it exactly the same as looking at the world while awake or would everything look somewhat altered?
Pretty much the same answer as question one.

5. (Almost similar to question 1) Are the 5 senses available to you in the dream world?
Yes

6. How long are most lucid dreams? and how long are lucid dreams when you first start out?
It varies from person to person. Most of mine are very brief. When you first start out lucid dreams tend to almost end instantly, but once again this varies from person to person. Some people have long lucid dreams even when they first start.

7. At what age would you recommend lucid dreaming to?
Any age. However, as you get older you have less REM sleep which is when lucid dreams are most likely to occur.

8. Are there any dangers to lucid dreaming? Like are there some sort of side effects? Could you die?
No dangers. The only side effect I can think of is perhaps less sleep if you try the WBTB method or are really dedicated to writing in your dream journal.

9. (And finally...) Let's say you fall off a building. Before you hit the ground would you wake up? or would you continue the fall and end up in heaven?
In normal dreams, most people tend to wake up. I know that I've fallen in some of my dreams and not woken up, but I didn't die in the dream or anything. I wasn't really even hurt. I have died in one of my dreams (via drowning) and the dream just went black and another dream ended up starting.



I hope that helps a bit. There's a lot of useful information here and helpful people. Read as much as you can and ask any question you need and I'm sure you'll be LDing in no time. :banana:

Wow thanks John11. :D

I can sleep tonight (or have a lucid dream o.o) happy knowing that whatever I do in my dreams won't effect my life when I'm awake.

Even though your post was asking about LD specifically, I think the answers apply to any kind of dream. I've not yet had a LD, and yet my dreams are usually quite vivid regarding the senses. Why, just last night I was feeling some nice boobies! Felt pretty soft and real in my hands! Oh, and I've also tasted things in my dreams...not boobies, though! :D

I think that John11 has said pretty much everything.

I would suggest you not to get to excited about having an LD tonight. For most people, it takes more than one day. You might be an exception, but still, its always better to not be too positive about something because you risk to get desapointed and frustrated and might even give up. Don't give up, it'll come (it hasn't come to me but I've only started a week ago). I've been told it takes 4 weeks to have an LD in general but it varies. I'm hoping to get my first one on my birthday that is coming :boogie:

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Originally Posted by Paradox-db3

Even though your post was asking about LD specifically, I think the answers apply to any kind of dream. I've not yet had a LD, and yet my dreams are usually quite vivid regarding the senses. Why, just last night I was feeling some nice boobies! Felt pretty soft and real in my hands! Oh, and I've also tasted things in my dreams...not boobies, though! :D

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lol, Paradox-db...!!! :banana:

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Originally Posted by Paradox-db3

Even though your post was asking about LD specifically, I think the answers apply to any kind of dream. I've not yet had a LD, and yet my dreams are usually quite vivid regarding the senses. Why, just last night I was feeling some nice boobies! Felt pretty soft and real in my hands! Oh, and I've also tasted things in my dreams...not boobies, though! :D

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Lol. That sounds like a really interesting dream.

Btw... Sorry for taking your name, I didn't bother to check if anyone had paradox in their name. Its just a word I thought was pretty cool and somewhat related to dreaming.

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Originally Posted by PaiRoDoX

Lol. That sounds like a really interesting dream.

Btw... Sorry for taking your name, I didn't bother to check if anyone had paradox in their name. Its just a word I thought was pretty cool and somewhat related to dreaming.

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Is it related to dreaming?

Well, in one dream I had years ago, I was in two places at the same time. That's kind of a paradox. I suppose all sorts of paradoxes could exist in our dreams...anything's possible!

Sorry, I've started speaking english only 3 years ago and have improved since then but I still don't know what paradox means. What does it mean?

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Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough

Sorry, I've started speaking english only 3 years ago and have improved since then but I still don't know what paradox means. What does it mean?

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It's an unlikely and/or contradictory occurrance that is true.

per exemple, if I saw a ghost?

Paradox example:

I always lie.

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Paradox example:

I always lie.

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So your the honest kind of person... and if we discovered you lied, it would be a paradox?

The sentence paradox...

1. Sentence 2 is false.
2. Sentence 1 is true.

The two cannot co-exist. If sentence 1 is true in saying that sentence 2 is false, then sentence 2 is false in saying that sentence 1 is true. But if that's the case, then sentence 1 is false. And if sentence 1 is false, then sentence 2 is true. But if it's true, then sentence 1 is making a false claim. They simply cannot exist together.

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So your the honest kind of person... and if we discovered you lied, it would be a paradox?

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No. By saying I always lie, that means that is a lie which means I don't always lie.

Another example would be if you went back in time and killed your grandfather. If you did that then how would you ever be born to go back in time and kill your grandfather?

That's a better example.

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Originally Posted by John11

No. By saying I always lie, that means that is a lie which means I don't always lie.

Another example would be if you went back in time and killed your grandfather. If you did that then how would you ever be born to go back in time and kill your grandfather?

That's a better example.

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Were you a mamber of the Back to the Future board at one time? (Pardon the pun)

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Originally Posted by Paradox-db3

Were you a mamber of the Back to the Future board at one time? (Pardon the pun)

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lol at the pun, but no. I've never heard of it.

Welcome, I've only been here for almost... 2 weeks. Hm. It'll be two weeks in 2 days. (: Pshh, you silly Canadian! XD I live in USA... =P But I have Canadian friends, so 's all good. XD Actually, penpals that I consider friends. Your Canadian bacon is just ham, I hope you know. :cry:

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Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough

I think that John11 has said pretty much everything.

I would suggest you not to get to excited about having an LD tonight. For most people, it takes more than one day. You might be an exception, but still, its always better to not be too positive about something because you risk to get desapointed and frustrated and might even give up. Don't give up, it'll come (it hasn't come to me but I've only started a week ago). I've been told it takes 4 weeks to have an LD in general but it varies. I'm hoping to get my first one on my birthday that is coming :boogie:

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Heh. I read about it on the internet. Stayed up until 11, did reality checks every 5 minutes. Sure enough, did a RC in the dreamscape, to find out that I was dreaming but couldn't really control the dream as much as I wanted to. :( So, if you think about it A LOT then you could have some chance, but you shouldn't really count on it. ;D

heh, we have some pessimism going on here, which is never helpful :P Dreaming is all in your mind, so if you beleive you can do it quickly, then chances are you will :) Just keep up with what your doing and be persistant but not obsessive. You can do it.

Is the pessimism comment directed towards me? :P

'cause if it is I didn't meant that he couldn't have it the next day, I just meant that if he doesn't, its not abnormal and that he shouldn't give up. Sorry if it sounded like I was telling him that it would take a long time. I was trying to be positive... Sorry Sorry :bowdown:


Anyways I got sort of my first LD last night so see, you can do it too (I've been trying for one week) so you can do it too! (mine was just spinning in circle so I don't really count it....) Good luck

For the Paradox thing....

So then a paradox is not true... Per exemple: Padjisjadsjdadsdsffsd is a group of letters that no one has ever written or will write.

Isn't it a good one? 'cause I've just wrote it! Paradoxes are cool...

So if I get it a paradox is a statement that is proven wrong by itself?

I agree with Paradox-db3, you should be able to answer those questions based on any dreams, not just lucid ones. Maybe I misunderstand all of this, but being lucid is as simple as knowing that you are dreaming. Therefore, lucid dreams aren't much different than regular ones, but now you have the potential to influence them and make more conscious decisions about your behavior.

The most vivid sensual experience I had was when I was being attacked by zombies and I could smell the overpowering stench of rotting meat when one of them was close. I woke up just then, and I was amazed at the realness of it. Your past vividness might predispose you for LD. Lack of vividness and recall and you probably have a lot of work to do.

Hiiii! Well welcome to DV :D I'll give your questions a try. I think (having just skimmed the first few) that my main answer is going to be 'it depends'. LDing is a very personal thing, and varies by person and by dream, and by effort put in, aides consumed, placebo effects... etc. lol

1. When you are lucid in your dreams how real are objects within the dream? Like, if I were to touch a flower in my dream would it be the same as touching a flower in real life? Depends, both on your 'level of lucidity' and on how vivid your dream is, which depends on a number of factors. Generally speaking, the more you stop and consciously focus on something in a dream the more detail it seems to develop. For me it's usually a question of stabilizing (both lucidity and the dream), and then things will be realistic or even hyper-real.

2. In the dream world, would you see yourself through your own eyes? or some at some other sort of angle? You can have dreams in the first or the third person. Mine tend to be first person. A lot of people seem to blip out to a third-person viewpoint when they do something intense :shock: and I have had that happen a few times. Some people dream a lot in 3rd person and a few have posted threads addressing how to become lucid while dreaming like this and how to get into the first person. Again, depends.

3. How long should it take before you have your first lucid dream? Depends ;) Some people get it right after hearing about it. Some people had them naturally. Putting in a lot of effort usually can't hurt, unless you are one of those people who gets way too absorbed and psyches themselves out. Don't stress about it, just enjoy it. Read as much as you can and reality check!!!!!

4. How real is the world itself? Like is it exactly the same as looking at the world while awake or would everything look somewhat altered? See #1

5. (Almost similar to question 1) Are the 5 senses available to you in the dream world? See # 1,4. All the five senses and pain are possible, as well as the ability to induce and experience intense emotions. And orgasms.

6. How long are most lucid dreams? and how long are lucid dreams when you first start out? Again, depends. It is commonly said that newbs will get too excited and will wake themselves up. I still do this sometimes. Most of mine seem to last for a few minutes, a few have seemed to last 40-60 min. Some are ridiculously short. Stabilizing, to me, is the best way to have a dream be nice and long from the start, rather than have to keep using tricks to keep it going when you think you are waking up.

7. At what age would you recommend lucid dreaming to? Birth! :D (no, really)

8. Are there any dangers to lucid dreaming? Like are there some sort of side effects? Could you die? Just like everything else (water, checking the time, heroin) it is possible to become addicted to lucid dreaming, especially if you are the kind of person who becomes totally absorbed in something because they use it as a means to escape the world. Otherwise, I'm not aware of a single thing.

9. (And finally...) Let's say you fall off a building. Before you hit the ground would you wake up? or would you continue the fall and end up in heaven? What do YOU think would happen? A Neo plop onto the pavement? Float through the ground? Grow wings and fly? Wily E. Coyote pancakes? Death and the experience of your personally supposed afterlife? Something completely unexpected? What do you think is going to happen? As with all lucid dreaming, that is typically what WILL happen.

Good luck to you :) Let me know if you have any more questions, and remember to just keep reading and reality checking!