WILD technique - what then?

[grayFalcon]

Hello! I have had a funny experience this night. After sleeping for 6 hours and being awake for 1, I went to bed, counting "1, I'm dreaming, 2, I'm dreaming" etc. After some time, I did start dreaming, anyway, this imagination had all the characteristics of a dream that I'd normally have. But I was also still aware of lying on my bed, and that I could just open my eyes. It was like a very vivid imagination: I was watching myself running through the woods, feeling the excitement, the strain in my arms as I pulled myself up somewhere, but at the same time I knew that if I now tried to interfere, tried to lift my arm, my body in my bed would have lifted an arm and I would have woken up. It was a bit like watching a movie, feeling what the main character feels, but not being able to do anything. Then, at some point, this, I'll call it dream, started really pulling at me and I felt as if I could continue "watching" it and become one with it, but at the same time forget that it's just a dream. So i reminded myself of what number I'd stopped counting at and went on counting, just to keep my consciousness awake. And as I did that, the dream became some other dream (which eventually scared me so much that I did open my eyes and I woke up). Now my question is: Was that actually a dream in which I could have become lucid? And if so, is there any "softer" technique than counting that I could have employed to fully enter this dream without loosing my consciuosness of it being a dream, thus having a lucid dream? Thanks a lot in advance, -grayFalcon

[Damascus]

hey there! welcome to the forums! WILD is a little advanced for you to start with. I would reccomend poppin over to tutorials and having a look at the MILD tutorial, it is a lot easier to do. But if you insist on doing a WILD i can help you out. Well first off, are you doing this in conjunction with a WBTB (see tutorials section) or are you doing it when you wake up on a morning, or are you doing it when your first go to bed for the night? If you are doing it when you first go to bed, it will be VERY hard to do, there have been very little occurences of this succeeding at this time in the night. My suggestion is to wake up in the morning, and even if you feel you cannot go back to sleep, try the WILD method below (the link) And also, you say the dream was irregular like that. This was not a WILD, this was something else which i have only heard one occurence of. the person who also had this experience is Anelior. PM him if you want to talk about that dream. I think you could of turned it into a LD if you tried to control it. A better method of doing a WILD would be my method. The thread which explains it is here so please try it out and tell me the results ina post or a PM! Hope this helps, if you have any more questions post em or PM em to me!

[grayFalcon]

Hi! Thanks for the anwser! Well, WILD sounded like the easiest thing to do, so I just went for it I find it hard to condition myself on RCs, and when I do manage to remember to do one, I always wake up in the process. My method is going to sleep for about 6 hours, then staying awake for 1 hor (while, for example, typing this message ) , and then going to bed again. I also set the alarm clock to 2 hours then, as I never sleep longer than 2 hours on the second try and this enormously helps me with my dream recall. I try to stay conscious by counting "1, I'm dreaming, 2, I'm dreaming, 3, I'm dreaming, ...". Unfortunately, I don't hear the ringing you write about.

[Raylin]

Well, some people find WILD easier than others. MILD is a nice, easy technique for most people, but if you think you can do well with WILD, you might as well try. I think if you'd tried to maybe move into that dream as some other person, rather than yourself, or maybe had tried to jump into yourself, and take control it might have become a lucid dream. It sounds quite a bit like the way a WILD will start, with you still observing rather than being part of the dream. Keep trying, and next time you get something like this, imagine yourself (Your mind and your control etc.) being transferred somehow into part of the dream. Part of the dream could just be you moving yourself intot he dream as a new person, or if it's like that dream, you could move into your body int he dream. Just do it however you feel is a good way. As for a 'softer' technique, there are several you could try. You could see if you can find the ringing, but you said you can't hear t, so perhaps another method would be better. Once you find yourself watching something like a dream like that, perhaps you could stop with the counting part, and instead, just tell yourself that you're dreaming in your head over and over whilst you try to get into the dream. Anyway, just keep experiementing, and you'll get there soon.

[grayFalcon]

Thanks! I actually managed a lucid dream with the same technique tonight... Dunno, I just let myself slip in there. Now I have to work on _staying_ lucid while I'm there... I forgot that this was a dream more and more, and shortly before waking up I wasn't lucid at all anymore Well, practice makes perfect, huh?

[Damascus]

glad i could help! any other questions please, pm me with them!