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      Does anyone on this earth dislike LOTR?

      I really want to know. Because I think I am the only one who doesn't care for it. Am I so totally alone in this?

      I mean, if I hear another movie or book fact or read another article...I'm gunna pop. LOTR< LOTR< LOTR
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      Wow really? I thought everyone on this planet like LOTR.. unless... Where are you again the moon right? Well that explains it.. Yeah I heard some people up there didn't to much care for it because they didn't film any of it up there something about too many craters..

      Oh by the way where have you been? haven't seen you around in a while.

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      Well the movies were good, the books were ok. The second one sucked. I think Robert Jordan's WoT makes LOTR look silly, but that's just me.
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      Originally posted by Mercubio
      Well the movies were good, the books were ok. The second one sucked. I think Robert Jordan's WoT makes LOTR look silly, but that's just me.


      This is just an opinion (and probably not a very good one), but as much as I enjoyed Robert Jordan's books, they started get very tedious about the time he fired his editor. Or whatever he did around book 3. Book 4 and beyond just draaaaaaaag on and on and little gets resolved in the plot. Also, I noticed that his characters became very cookie-cutter. Except for the character Min, all of the female characters were exatly the same, personality-wise. Faile and Aviendha were shaping up to be unique characters, but they fell into the same character as the rest of the girls. I found the same situation with the male characters, except for Mat. I was really disappointed because books 1, 2, and 3 kicked ass and I couldn't put them down.

      I haven't read all of the LotR books yet but I've seen all three movies, and from what I'm told, they honor the books very well. That was an epic story as far as I'm concerned. It had everything an epic is supposed to have--or rather everything I expect in an epic. Unexpected heroes, innocence lost, the shadow of a love story, betrayal, action, climax with a battle against a mighty foe, and a nice plot resolution all wrapped up with a pretty bow for you at the end.

      But I'm just blubbering now. I'm so tired that my train of thought can't stay on the rail. Anyway, I'm not trashing on your favorite writer. You may not think so by what I've said, but I do enjoy his work as well. I'm just offering my own opinion as a writer.

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      Rober Jordan's wheel of time is freaking AMAZING
      he is my fav. author


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      The books were amazing, Tolkien did not only write those books, but he lived in middle-earth. The movies didn't do the books any justice, but cinematically they were ok. WoT is good, but where you do think fantasy started (well greek and norse myth technically) but Tolkien started it in this century.
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      Re: Does anyone on this earth dislike LOTR?

      Originally posted by phantasy
      I really want to know. Because I think I am the only one who doesn't care for it. Am I so totally alone in this?

      I mean, if I hear another movie or book fact or read another article...I'm gunna pop. LOTR< LOTR< LOTR
      I don't dislike it but I'm not too crazy about it.


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      I just sort of felt like Tolkein was original but that's all. He was a noob fantasy writer because he was the first. Its all very intelligent but lacking depth I felt. I know, a lot of people say its got more depth than anything else, but 3 books, 4 if you count the hobbit just isn't enough depth. If you want to undertsand a people, you must know their myths, their legends, their dreams, their upbringing and all of this isnt discussed much in LotR. I dunno, I'm not saying Tolkein sucks, I mean it was pretty good. Book two definately sucked, but otherwise it was pretty awesome. I just feel that Jordan was definately the better of the two, by a long shot.
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      http://tolkien.slimy.com/

      try this site, it will answer questions and show you books about these mysterious backgrounds.
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      I never really got into LOTR, either. Although maybe I should give them another chance. everyone i know really likes those movies. i guess im just not normal .

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      i never liked them either. to long for that little of "insight" into human nature. they we're played out. i think i would enjoy the books, but then again i'm not into fantasy stuff.
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      im sorry... but lacking depth?

      There is a complete history of Arda, tolkien himself was not a professional writer, he was a history buff... there is so much to that world it boggles the mind.

      The simirllion covers the history, his son wrote it after he died i think, he took all his fathers notes and compiled it into one book, its alot of frikin material though...

      I must agree... He lived there... He saw it knows it has met the people. Anne Mccaffery is another author that has actuall lived in the worlds that they write about, her dragon rider series, actuall all of her series are within the same universe... they all tie together. Her world is but one of our possible futures.
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      Actually, Tolkein was an English teacher. He wrote LotR only for the purpose of creating new languages. The rest of the story just sort of came out after.

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      his son compiled all his notes and made different books. The sillmarillion and the lost tales of middle-earth (which is like a series of seven or so books.)
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