Originally Posted by
Voldmer
NOTHING works for you ..?
Have you tried these herbs?
mugwort
yarrow
guayusa
silene capensis
guarana
calea zaccatechichi
I've had good successes with those (especially yarrow), and I'm going to try wormwood soon.
There's a world beyond "supplements" ...
Edit: Actually, I very much sympathize. I also respond poorly, if at all, to many substances that are commonly felt strongly by others. Coffee, for example, is better at putting me to sleep, than keeping me awake ... Also, choline bitartrate has very little impact on me - if any at all.