My dream wine.

**Jamal** · 10-25-2007 12:37 AM

This may sound kind of weird/lame, but i made a bottle of wine and "blessed it" When i made it I called it my dream wine and declared with a glass once and a while it will induce lucid dreams for weeks

so far it's worked one night (it just fermented recently) If there is more success I will recommend it.

Any comments

**bro** · 10-25-2007 02:35 AM

Well..obviously you know I'm going to use that big scary P-word...placebo, and it is known that alcohol supresses dreams,...but by all means continue...sometimes tying an object, even a food into a ritual to try and induce lucid dreams will work just by belief...though, I guess I kind of broke you belief now. Still, rituals may very well work, just by wanting them to, and knowing that if you beleive they can help, they can...

Good luck...please post if the wine ritual continues to work for you.

**1342576** · 10-25-2007 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by bro

Well..obviously you know I'm going to use that big scary P-word...placebo, and it is known that alcohol supresses dreams,

Alcohol supresses REM sleep, but there is a rebound effect in the early morning so it's not a placebo effect. I've never blessed a bottle of wine, nor cared much about what kind of alcohol I throw in. And still, when I'm drunk at night, my morning dreams are more vivid and longer. The problem is that they get pretty damn morbid. Dead babies circulating around with mosquitos coming out of their eyes and noses.

But that's just me.

**bro** · 10-26-2007 04:54 AM

That's right..i've never tried alcohol for the rebound effect!...brilliant idea *gets the wine* Would have been a whole lot easier than sleep deprivation...anyway..I think I'll try this in small amounts.. Rebounds have worked to some degree in the past, but i've never tried it with alchohol.

**Swank** · 10-29-2007 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by 1342576

Alcohol supresses REM sleep, but there is a rebound effect in the early morning so it's not a placebo effect. I've never blessed a bottle of wine, nor cared much about what kind of alcohol I throw in. And still, when I'm drunk at night, my morning dreams are more vivid and longer. The problem is that they get pretty damn morbid. Dead babies circulating around with mosquitos coming out of their eyes and noses.

But that's just me.

How very......postmodern?