I recommend you look into the differences between 'dream' and normal 'hallucination'. |
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Here's a tip for first timers, or anyone who has trouble having lucids. Eat Amanita Muscaria (Fly Agaric) mushrooms. They are hallucinogenic, and produce vivid lucid dreams in the first stage of intoxication. They are legal in most places in the world. But before buying or taking the fungi be sure to do careful research on it, as they can have unwanted side effects. Have fun with the Shroom and be careful. |
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I recommend you look into the differences between 'dream' and normal 'hallucination'. |
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I recommend you look into the effects of the Amanita Muscaria. I know the difference between hallucinations and dreams. I'VE EXPERIENCED BOTH. Psilocybin mushrooms, what people normally consume for hallucinogenic effects, are different from the Amanita Muscaria mushroom. The Amanita actually brings on sleep that shifts into lucid dreams. I am not talking about normal Shrooms, with normal hallucinations. |
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I've taken Amanita 2ce. Not much effect except a floaty sensation and a deep, but subtle relaxation. Once in a soup and once I took extract. Didnt do much, but perhaps I didn't take enough. |
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Did you have vivid closed eye visuals? If you did then you took enough, if not then you needed more. Also some people are effected differently. Not everyone falls asleep when under the influence of Amanitas and if you simply do not want to fall asleep you won't. Sometimes the setting can effect you. If you were in a slightly dark environment with a couple people you know and quiet music, then you probably would feel sleepy and eventually fall asleep, but you'll stay awake if you are in a bright place, with lots of strangers and loud or no music. |
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So uhhh where do you find these mushrooms and in prepairing it Wikipedia says to parboil it(idk what that means). It is also a hallucinogen. But I want to try this type of shroom. How did you find yours? How do you prepare it? Whats the worst side effect it has on you? Stuff like this. I am doing a project for my school about inducing lucid dreams and i request that you answer these questions and your mushroom might be used in my project |
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I would seriously advise AGAINST including the use of any drugs, especially something like shrooms, in a school project. Unless your teacher is a hippie or something. |
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You can buy them on the internet, and in some places in local herb shops. They are not illegal to possess or be under the influence of in the USA. I got a full mushroom from an Amanita dealer, which is very risky and I do not recommend because there are other mushrooms that look very much like the Fly Agaric but are more poisonous and do not give desired effects. I would buy them from a credible online source. |
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Even when prepared correctly the Amanita still induces nausea in most people. I did experience extreme nausea for about 20 minutes, but once I got past it is was very worth it. One of the most enjoyable experiences in my life. I did not vomit but my friend who also took the shroom (a smaller dose than me) did vomit. Once he was done though he felt much better and also enjoyed the experience. It just depends on the person. Some people say the never feel nausea. I would suggest eating very lightly before your trip. It helps keep the nausea down. Also never eat fresh Amanitas. The drying process reduces the toxins that make you feel nausea. |
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Cheers, I have wanted to try this mushroom for a while, mainly for its psychedelic effects, but im not a big fan of nausea so its for this reason i havent tried it. I might give it go to see if it can induce a dream state. I think i read somewhere it can produce a dream state while awake with eyes closed, or do you have to actually fall asleep for it to have an effect? |
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If you want to try shrooms for psychedelic effects, but you don't want nausea than go the route of Psilocybin mushrooms. They have much milder nausea, if any (some people report vomiting, some don't feel a thing) and they are very psychedelic. However, the problem with Psilocybin mushrooms are that they are illegal in the US and many other parts of the world, whereas the Amanita Muscaria is legal. I would advise taking Psilocybins for trippin and practicing lucid dreams at night. Avoid the Amanita. Most people consider it unpleasant. I tried it and enjoyed it immensely, and if you are just dying to try than go for it, but it honestly isn't any better than a real lucid dream, or taking Psilocybins. |
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Steve Zissou: Son of a bitch, I'm sick of these dolphins.
Steve Zissou: Oh, shit! Swamp leeches. Everybody, check for swamp leeches, and pull them off... Nobody else got hit? I'm the only one? What's the deal?
Steve Zissou:This is the observation bubble... which I thought up in a dream, actually.:insomnia:
http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=80376
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The first thing I thought of when you said mush rooms and hallucinations was shrooms. |
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Be careful with Amanitas, they're not the same as normal magic mushrooms. |
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Yeah ive done my fair share of psilocybin mushrooms, they are very good for a colourful and visual experience. I was perticually interested in amanita m as ive heard its nothing like psilocybin mushrooms, its more dreamy and relaxing, without a lot of visual activity. Well if i do decide to try them i will write up about what i experienced. |
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It's true, Fly Agaric are different than Psilocybin Cubensis, but honestly they are also very similar. I like to describe the effects of P. Cubensis to people who have never experienced it before as being faded (like when you smoke cannabis and drink at the same time). Of course there is also a better tactile and visual sensation. A. Muscaria is different in the sense that you aren't so stony and drunk feeling, like when you experience P.C. It's much more relaxed, very dreamy. There aren't such intense visuals, as with P.C., but there are very similar closed eye visuals. The silly thoughts you get when you smoke cannabis or take P.C. are also similar when under the effect of Amanitas. The pleasurable "spasms" you get at the height of Psilocybin's effects are present in very minor amounts. There are some effects of the Amanita that can't even be explained, like a mixture of faint memories, smells, and sights that swirl around in your brain. It feels like a deja vu. Feelings you experience in your body, like every muscle has relaxed to it's fullest and you are no longer in control of movement (although movement is still possible). |
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The other night i decided to try some amanita muscaria. |
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Yeah everyone be carefull with fly agaric. its pretty poisonous. |
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So you think it was a worthwhile experience? I certainly will be doing it again. I had a bit a different experience when I did it because I never fell asleep. I did it with my friend and we stayed up the whole time (this is before I knew about lucid dreams and Amanitas). I'm surprised that you were able to fall asleep twice also. Usually people report only falling asleep towards the very beginning then they stay up for the rest of the trip. |
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