Yeah It's just something I cannot control, it's like I wake up in another place and end up staying there for varying amounts of time. Most of the time the place is stable and real like this one, other times it's a little funky and that's just because the natural laws there are different. I get to dream normally when it's a dream within dream but well you get the idea how something like that would get you all confuzzled.

So I go to sleep here, wake up someplace then end up waking up here again, sure my body is rested but "I" don't get a chance to rest I'm usualy tired my memory is shot to hell too. So yes it sucks sometimes if you cannot control it. But I said it in another thread the experiences I have gained are a blessing. I wouldn't want to change besides if I drink enough Guinness I just pass the F&#$ (prolly just don't remember anything) well anywhoo...

Shawndow, patience, if lucidity is really something you wish to obtain in your dreams you will eventually do so. If the fact that you havent had any luck with lucidity really ticks you off so much focus that energy into something constructive, frustration will just make things more difficult, you have an entire lifetime to do this.

Look into meditation, start a dream journal and try the reality checks, they seem to work with allot of other people. There are a bunch of people here that seem to know some good techniques peruse the forums and give em a shot