What do you call it? LD, OBE, False Awakening?

[Makaseru09]

So my experience today i believe it was a WILD. So i got up today about 9:45 and stayed up until 10:30. Drank a cup of Green tea with a hint of mint and layed back down. First i saw lights floating about. Then i saw some Imagry poping in and out. It was then everything was still and i was pretty content. This is when a bright yellow sheet of light brushed over my eyes and i felt a strong pressure come over me. it only lasted about 30 seconds. i got in a deeper sleep and found myself looking outside of my house where the trees were still green (but it had snowed a foot today). I still aware i was sleeping in my bed the whole time. So i probably got to excited and from there that dream body went into one that was sleeping on the couch in my famly room. I felt myself go in this body and right away i was lifting out of it and floating above it. all the senses brightened. From there i lost control and floated through a wall and found myself back in my real bed with a tingling sensation. then i woke up. I think it was lucid dream, what do you think?

[Tsen]

Definitely an LD, though it sounds like your control wasn't great. Probably a WILD, judging by the "lights floating around" and the tingling sensations. Those were Hypnotic Imagery and the appearance/dissipation of sleep paralysis, respectively. Congratz on an LD!

[Alucinor Architecton]

i would call that a LD, and it was also an OBE. I've never hads an OBE, and I don't see how they are much different, but pepole seem to make them sound special. soo uh, good job on the OBE? and definately good job on the WILD!

[Tsen]

OBEs are, in my opinion, a load of bull. A few people on the site would argue otherwise, but they have no hard evidence to do so with. Basically, OBEs are just LD's where you leave your body behind and take some sort of "astral" form. There's nothing special about it, but some people tack on some 'spiritual' significance to make themselves feel special.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by Makaseru09 So my experience today i believe it was a WILD. So i got up today about 9:45 and stayed up until 10:30. Drank a cup of Green tea with a hint of mint and layed back down. First i saw lights floating about. Then i saw some Imagry poping in and out. It was then everything was still and i was pretty content. This is when a bright yellow sheet of light brushed over my eyes and i felt a strong pressure come over me. it only lasted about 30 seconds. i got in a deeper sleep and found myself looking outside of my house where the trees were still green (but it had snowed a foot today). I still aware i was sleeping in my bed the whole time. So i probably got to excited and from there that dream body went into one that was sleeping on the couch in my famly room. I felt myself go in this body and right away i was lifting out of it and floating above it. all the senses brightened. From there i lost control and floated through a wall and found myself back in my real bed with a tingling sensation. then i woke up. I think it was lucid dream, what do you think? Actually, the OBE people would jump in to claim that one. No, it doesn't matter that the material details of the Scenery are not exact, as the OBE people are sophisticated enough to allow that the Temporal Astral Plane which roughly corresponds to our Material World is not an exact copy, not requiring the same weather reports. But then again, many Spiritually Oriented Lucid Dreamers (a rare entity at this Nilistic and Material Site) would allow that Lucid Dreaming is simply one of the Gates into the Astral-Spiritual Realms. Ergo, whenever I am swept off in a Vortex and taken up into Heaven during a Lucid Dream, I in fact suppose that I had indeed crossed some actual Spiritual Frontiers. The Barrier which prevents many dreamers from seeing the similarity between Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming is that bugaboo called the Subconscious Mind. People use that word which is nothing more than an expression belonging to an early and unproven model for psychological conceptualization, that they suppose they are speaking some something solid, real and actual. But there is NO Subconscious Mind. Its a false model which describes nothing. But we have Psychic Dreams, Shared Dreams, Prophetic Dreams, Astral Travel -- all kinds of things which Demonstrate that the Spirit is not trapped in the Body, nor the Mind limited to the Brain. As Carl Jung had argued, one cannot assert the model of the Subconscious Mind to the exclusion of Collective Consciousness. There may be a Universal and Unifying Life Force which interpenetrates the World and which provides us all an objective link into what only seems to be a Subjective Experience. Yet each time a dream or OBE comes up with some verifiable objective material we have verifying evidence of the underlying reality embedded in these allegedly subjective experiences. The Subconscious Mind Model busts apart at its seems and must admit to external Conscious Forces of Awareness and Communication.