Most intense LD to date

[Dzogchen]

This site has increased my ld'ing exponentially heres from DJ this morning 2nd ld in 2 days. This one was through a WILD so was intense. Went to bed a lil drunk woke up at 7:00 with a little stomach ache. Watched tv for a while and decided to try a WILD. I usually just focus on my breathing. This time I tried what I read on the website and literally counted I am dreaming 1, I am dreaming 2 and so on I remember getting upto 40 or 50 and then the transition was very wierd had this intense pounding in my head I was lying on my bed but not in the direction I started couldnt feel any parts of my body (had actually hit sp a while ago) but still wasnt convinced i was in LD transition. Heard bunch of voices from my neighbours they were looking for some one. Then the headpounding (dunno if i wud call it pounding as it didnt hurt but felt like it was about to explode thats the best I can explain) and my body felt like it was tense. Anyway this went on for a while , I would hear noises and people (sometimes very clearly) BUt I wud stay put and then suddenly I was able to see stuff, I knew for sure I hadnt awoken so I wud focus harder and the grass was very clear. I was wide awake and in my LD. This was most incredible. I remeber thinking these are just electrical pulses sent to my visual cortex no reason for it to be any less real than actual reality. Since I felt like I had complete control decided to fly to somewhere tropical I was flying really fast ( had just seen superman preview on hbo last night so that helped with the flight simulation . Was flying over water some ocean and tht it wud be nice to see some ship and there it was looked like a destroyer but was 100 times the size of any I had seen thousands of people were running around and constructing some thing. Flew down close and headed off to the beach. Flew down and picked up a couple of gorgeous bikini clad models for some reason once I picked them up their weight seemed to bring me down so I cudnt fly higher so I dropped them and then everything turned to night. Wanted to meet some people I knew so they showed up I followed them for a while as they didnt seem to know I was there and then finally talked to them. and then poof i was up no chance to do some spinning to stay in it I was out cold and wide awake. Couple of questions. Anyone know why I didnt transition out slowly and instead awoke right away. The transition into the LD was the hardest while awake almost scared me off (where was the hypnogagic imagery) did i miss it or just dont remember it. Ok third - most of my Lds have been after more than normal drinking sleep early wake up early and then when i take a nap is this because of the REM (which was reduced when I was drunk) catching up on nap increased my chances Anyway I feel like I am God!!! (i may be over reacting here but hope more of you will get to experience this. Happy dreaming

[bobvilax2000]

That's awesome, man. I'm just working on DILDs, still. I have a question about WILDs. When you finally enter your dream, you are in fact asleep, right? Sometimes the way that people describe it, it seems that they still notice their body lying down in real life. Is it just like a normal dream, just easier to notice? I can only answer the third question... Well not really because you already did. When a depressant, such as alcohol, disrupts REM, you'll catch up later on. When I drink a moderate amount a little bit before I go to bed, I find that I have more vivid dreams later on at night. I don't think that this should be used as a technique, but it does happen. Again, awesome. - -Barrett

[Dzogchen]

Wish I could the remember the transition more clearly as it would probably help with the next time i reach this phase. I do remember lying in bed (this was almost like a false awakening) and remember hearing voices of people around me but didnt see images - the next thing i remember is staring at something that was blurry at first but when i focused it became clear now I was in LD and could see clearly. Yes I wudnt recommend the alcohol as a good long term technique but always seems to work for me. What are the limits of how real and frequent these can be achieved and are there any downsides to doing this excessively (something this much fun has to have a downside

[Limitz]

Originally posted by Dzogchen This site has increased my ld'ing exponentially heres from DJ this morning 2nd ld in 2 days. This one was through a WILD so was intense. Went to bed a lil drunk woke up at 7:00 with a little stomach ache. Watched tv for a while and decided to try a WILD. I usually just focus on my breathing. This time I tried what I read on the website and literally counted I am dreaming 1, I am dreaming 2 and so on I remember getting upto 40 or 50 and then the transition was very wierd had this intense pounding in my head I was lying on my bed but not in the direction I started couldnt feel any parts of my body (had actually hit sp a while ago) but still wasnt convinced i was in LD transition. Heard bunch of voices from my neighbours they were looking for some one. Then the headpounding (dunno if i wud call it pounding *as it didnt hurt but felt like it was about to explode thats the best I can explain) and my body felt like it was tense. Anyway this went on for a while , I would hear noises and people (sometimes very clearly) BUt I wud stay put and then suddenly I was able to see stuff, I knew for sure I hadnt awoken so I wud focus harder and the grass was very clear. I was wide awake and in my LD. This was most incredible. I remeber thinking these are just electrical pulses sent to my visual cortex no reason for it to be any less real than actual reality. Since I felt like I had complete control decided to fly to somewhere tropical I was flying really fast ( had just seen superman preview on hbo last night so that helped with the flight simulation . Was flying over water some ocean and tht it wud be nice to see some ship and there it was looked like a destroyer but was 100 times the size of any I had seen thousands of people were running around and constructing some thing. Flew down close and headed off to the beach. Flew down and picked up a couple of gorgeous bikini clad models for some reason once I picked them up their weight seemed to bring me down so I cudnt fly higher so I dropped them and then everything turned to night. Wanted to meet some people I knew so they showed up I followed them for a while as they didnt seem to know I was there and then finally talked to them. and then poof i was up no chance to do some spinning to stay in it I was out cold and wide awake. Couple of questions. Anyone know why I didnt transition out slowly and instead awoke right away. The transition into the LD was the hardest while awake almost scared me off (where was the hypnogagic imagery) did i miss it or just dont remember it. Ok third - most of my Lds have been after more than normal drinking sleep early wake up early and then when i take a nap is this because of the REM (which was reduced when I was drunk) catching up on nap increased my chances Anyway I feel like I am God!!! (i may be over reacting here but hope more of you will get to experience this. Happy dreaming Nice job man, the first actual intense lucid just makes you feel amazing the rest of the day. Keep it up!