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    • I am located in my whole body

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    • I am located in my eyes

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    • I am located in my brain

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    • I am located in whatever i'm concentrating on

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    • I am located outside of my body, third person style

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    • I am located in my heart

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      Where Is *You*?

      Where is your consciousness located, speaking subjectively?

      Does anything cause the apparent location of your consciousness to change?

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      There is no "you". There's just stuff.
      "This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."



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      Originally posted by bradybaker
      There is no \"you\"
      *Imagines Bradybaker as a quiet, bald child in a white Buddhist robe* Cookie?
      “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
      - Voltaire (1694 - 1778)

      The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world's problems.
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      I am you, you are me
      "I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me to see me looking back at you".



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      We are a happily fam-uh-lee

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      with a nick nack paddy wack give a dog a bone
      "I was looking back to see if you were looking back at me to see me looking back at you".



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      I beleive my brain sense thats what I think with and that is what makes all my body parts move
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      My consciousness is located in my brains at the moment. It will be there as long as my synapsis work correctly. After my brains stop functioning it will die or go to somewhere else, I don't know which one.
      Don't think about those damn kangaroos.

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      When speaking subjectively it is impossible to determine a seat of the consciousness as you don't even know whether your brain exists or not.
      Super profundo on the early eve of your day

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      I am sure my brain exists Ive never seen it but it has been proven that all living things have brains. If I did not have a brain I couldent think. So theres no way I dont have a brain.
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      suggests that we are our awareness

      Most of what I've seen from psychologist writings suggests that we are our awareness. That’s why we have lucid dreams because we are exercising our awareness capabilities. It might also be like a dog trying to catch his tail as he goes in circles. And he never catches it. I think
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      Yeah, I've contemplated something similar. That "we" are our awareness, because I couldn't pinpoint where "I" am after thorough inquiry.

      Sometimes, I feel like I think too much, take a break and just be like other people and say I'm in my body.

      In a very practical sense, we are our body. We're the physical result of our parents' sexual intercourse. How arrogant of us to claim we are otherwise if we didn't grow through the embryo in the womb!! JK
      naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally

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      I put "other" thinking about two things. First the conscious and subconscious. Some say they are the same thing, but I tend to look at the idea that the subconscious is just as the word suggests, "below conscious." That doesn't mean separateness, but it doesn't mean equal either. Also, I believe in the concept that every human has a soul (whatever you may believe that to be). It would only make sense to assume that the soul, then, is influenced by different things than the conscious and therefore holds a different form of "reason" for lack of a better word and influences us in a manner outside or "under" our normal consciousness.

      That's my idea. Me is the product of two entities with the same memories but different way of looking at things: the flesh and the spirit.

      -Amé

      "If there was one thing the lucid dreaming ninja writer could not stand, it was used car salesmen."

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      Originally posted by Amethyst Star
      I put \"other\" thinking about two things. First the conscious and subconscious. Some say they are the same thing, but I tend to look at the idea that the subconscious is just as the word suggests, \"below conscious.\" That doesn't mean separateness, but it doesn't mean equal either. Also, I believe in the concept that every human has a soul (whatever you may believe that to be). It would only make sense to assume that the soul, then, is influenced by different things than the conscious and therefore holds a different form of \"reason\" for lack of a better word and influences us in a manner outside or \"under\" our normal consciousness.

      That's my idea. Me is the product of two entities with the same memories but different way of looking at things: the flesh and the spirit.

      -Amé
      You said (I believe in the concept that every human has a soul ). I hear a lot of people say we are the product of our parents and that’s it. I try to imagine what the soul or spirit would be. The bible says it’s like the wind. You don't know where it’s coming from and where it’s going. So still we think in scientific terms and try to imagine what it might look like if we could see it. I was thinking. All things as we know it in the tangible world have depth width and height. Thee dimension. It is possible and not relevant to this subject that there is no 4th dimension such as time. I said that because there is a characteristic of the 3 dimensions that maybe we don't always see. And that is the thing that makes energy wood or metal or soap. Its all from the same energy. The difference is its characteristic properties. Simply put. The shape of the molecular structure. If you have the letter j and it is 1 billionth of and inch tall, or 5 billion light years high in size its still a J. Its character makes it a J. not its weight. Density or count of particles. Its character. Could this be like the spirit we don't see?
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      Originally posted by evangel
      If you have the letter j and it is 1 billionth of and inch tall, or 5 billion light years high in size its still a J. Its character makes it a J. not its weight. Density or count of particles. Its character. Could this be like the spirit we don't see?
      Whoa, you sound like a string theorist. String theory postulates the existence of several 'extra' dimensions that are either too small or too large to be seen. Maybe the soul resides in one of these dimensions?

      I think I'm going to regret saying that...
      "This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."



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      Originally posted by bradybaker+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bradybaker)</div>
      <!--QuoteBegin-evangel
      If you have the letter j and it is 1 billionth of and inch tall, or 5 billion light years high in size its still a J. Its character makes it a J. not its weight. Density or count of particles. Its character. Could this be like the spirit we don't see?
      Whoa, you sound like a string theorist. String theory postulates the existence of several 'extra' dimensions that are either too small or too large to be seen. Maybe the soul resides in one of these dimensions?

      I think I'm going to regret saying that...[/b]
      My name is not evangel
      Are you having a problem sticking to the facts?
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      probably cause of your avatar

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      I'm a brain guy!

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      Originally posted by dreamtamer007
      My name is not evangel
      Are you having a problem sticking to the facts?
      Oops, hahah. Yeah, CT was right. The avatar must've reminded me of evangel...sorry 'bout that.
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      bradybaker wrote:
      Maybe the soul resides in one of these dimensions?

      I think I'm going to regret saying that... [/b]
      I can't believe you said that! Yep you're going to regret it.

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      Originally posted by bradybaker+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bradybaker)</div>
      <!--QuoteBegin-dreamtamer007
      My name is not evangel
      Are you having a problem sticking to the facts?
      Oops, hahah. Yeah, CT was right. The avatar must've reminded me of evangel...sorry 'bout that.[/b]
      No problem I was just being a little touchy. Ha is that were we are ,touch. Maybe all of the above I don’t know can we change our mind?
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      Originally posted by Redeyedwolfking
      I am sure my brain exists Ive never seen it but it has been proven that all living things have brains. If I did not have a brain I couldent think. So theres no way I dont have a brain.
      you dont think people think for you

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      Originally posted by dreamtamer007
      My name is not evangel
      Are you having a problem sticking to the facts?
      That's ok, the other day he was being schizophrenic (he was replying to someone in argument, but put the quote as being by himself). That was even better to read... nothing like watching someone beat themselves up
      Insanity is the new avant-garde.

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      Originally posted by dream&#045;scape
      That's ok, the other day he was being schizophrenic (he was replying to someone in argument, but put the quote as being by himself). That was even better to read... nothing like watching someone beat themselves up
      Hey that wasn't me. That was Yume.

      At least...I don' think it was me...
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      Originally posted by bradybaker
      Hey that wasn't me. That was Yume.

      At least...I don' think it was me...
      Yeah Yume has done it before as well... but you did it the other day too... I'll see if I can find what thread it was in
      Insanity is the new avant-garde.

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