It's true that if the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the square root of the sum of the squares of the other two sides if the triangle is in a space with the euclidean metric. |
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What is truth? This is a very interesting subject because most of our "truths" are not truths based on my definition but assumptions. |
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It's true that if the length of the hypotenuse of a right triangle is equal to the square root of the sum of the squares of the other two sides if the triangle is in a space with the euclidean metric. |
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Last edited by PhilosopherStoned; 02-05-2011 at 03:49 AM.
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That was exactly my thought, that the only real, absolute truth that we can find is in Mathematics. I agree that the truths you listed, having to do with Mathematics should be consistent eternally. |
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It seems what you're trying to ask is "what is knowledge?" or "what is eternal?" or "what is the nature of reality?" |
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Its actually very interesting as I will show now. So you say that here is one truth that there is a lamp to my right, it could be that you are delusional? Is there a lamp to your right? Or maybe its a book? |
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Okay, but I still think my definition stands, and what you're really asking is "what is knowledge?". How do we know that something is true? |
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Last edited by Dianeva; 02-05-2011 at 03:33 AM.
I disagree. It was true that I disliked salad, it is no longer true. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
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I posted on this on the internet. In order to post something on the internet I have to exist. Therefore I exist. How could I do anything if I didn't exist, the notion is absurd. Proof<truth anyway. Just because you can prove something doesn't make it true. Christians have proven that I will go to hell for all my pre-marital sex, but that doesn't mean it's true. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
Good question, I completely agree that everything could just be an assumption, right now we could be living a dream, in the Matrix, a virtual reality. |
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"Reject common sense to make the impossible possible." -Kamina
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Things can be proven, I just gave you an extremely weak half assed proof that I exist. Proof=/=absolute truth. Words are weaker than experience, weaker than reality. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
I agree, and I think most people do. |
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Yes agreed, all logics we use are based on assumptions. Except for these 7 hermetic principles, they are derived from the fact you can find the principles back in everything. There are some undeniable truths, like for example every cause has it's effect. There is no assuming going on here, this is a truth that can be verified in every single thing in existence. Even if everything was just a dream, this truth would still apply, as you cannot find any cause without an effect. |
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"Reject common sense to make the impossible possible." -Kamina
I did a quick search for the 7 hermetic principles. I think I've run across them once before. Honestly, the only one that seems we might be able to 'know' is that all causes have effects, and that's only because having an effect is part of the definition of a cause. It's like "all unmarried men are bachelors" - one of the many logical statements that can be made on the assumption of definitions. |
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"Honestly, the only one that seems we might be able to 'know' is that all causes have effects, and that's only because having an effect is part of the definition of a cause." |
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"Reject common sense to make the impossible possible." -Kamina
Yes, I definitely agree with the idea that knowledge gained from experience can be criticized using the idea mentioned by Dianeva. Knowledge gained using reasoning can be criticized using other reasoning or the idea that our reasoning could be wrong. |
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To some extent, but there are many things you don't need to doubt. For example there's no need to doubt if I chop my arm off it will hurt, though this could all possibly be a hallucination and my arm might not even be real. In fact it would be very dangerous to doubt in this way. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
I agree, like I said, this is considering it in an absolute sense or very strict. For practical reasons, I believe in my existense, body, family, etc. For practical reasons, I have confidence in my abilities. The idea I mentioned is considering this whole situation philosophically. |
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I agree causality is a really tough problem. The problem lies in the proposition "every effect has a cause" but the question is "what caused the cause?" this creates the endless regression paradox which in my opinion is not a paradox if you believe that the universe had no origin and has always existed. But is the concept of infinity a metaphysical claim? I mean it is beyond our experience, and how can we comprehend something that is infinite being finite beings? |
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The endless regression paradox of cause and effect can indeed be solved with the following logical proof: |
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"Reject common sense to make the impossible possible." -Kamina
Is the present moment not also infinitely large? |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
Nice argumentation. |
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"Reject common sense to make the impossible possible." -Kamina
No, that doesn't follow. If you can't measure something then you don't know it's size, or have no way of representing in terms of size. It doesn;t mean you know that it's size is infintesimal. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
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