TRUE ESSENCE OF YOGA

[dattaswami]

TRUE ESSENCE OF YOGA Yoga is the most prestigious field of spiritualism. People think about 6 wheels (Chakras) or lotus flowers present in the spinal card, which are not seen by the eyes. They are imaginary and so they carry some inner meaning. When you say a face as a moon, fools search for moon in that face. But, wise people see similarity in the face and moon. Similarly, wheels and lotus flowers should not be searched in the spinal card. Spinal card is the main nerve, representing mind, which is the base of love. All these wheels or lotus flowers are the bonds of love in the various relatives like parents, wife or husband, children etc. They are compared to wheels or the revolving whirlpools in the ocean, which attract a swimmer and drown him. Similarly, these love wheels are compared to lotus flowers, since the lotus flowers attract the bee by sweet fragrance and bind it. Similarly, these love flowers attract any one and bind them. “Kundalini” is the mind which is the energy travelling as waves like a serpent, should cross all these love wheels connected to 7th lotus flower in the head called “Sahasrara”, which is Buddhi or intelligence that takes the decision, which is the firm love on God. Bhagavat Gita is called as the main scripture of Yoga (Yoga-Sastra). Why there is not even single reference to these wheels or lotus flowers in anywhere in Gita or even in Upanishats? Since they are not real, they are not even mentioned. The author of the Gita was Krishna, who was called Master of Yoga (Yogeswara). Krishna also says that the real yoga was lost since long (Sa kaleneha mahata….). This means that in the beginning, Sages in India knew the real yoga and loved God only crossing all their family bonds. In due course of time only, this true yoga was lost. Why? The middle age Indians were unable to cross their family bonds and so failed to succeed in Yoga. They wanted to cover their in ability by twisting the very concept of yoga. The family bonds were removed from the concept and only wheels or lotus flowers are left fixed. Now, they close the eyes and say that they have seen the lotus flowers or wheels, which are only imaginary. Now they cross these wheels by their imaginary “Kundalini” and say that they have succeeded in Yoga. These blind teachers are also not to be blamed, because they were trained like that by their blind teachers. This misinterpretation was done long time back and hence, even at the time of Krishna, He told that yoga was lost since a long time. We cannot catch those original culprits, who were the top most twisting masters and so the present tradition also cannot be blamed. Only rectification is the way left over. Some say that they see light, which is only an imagination. After all, the mind is a form of energy and on its concentration imaginary light can be imagined. Instead of such a week light, you better see a strong light with your open eyes. What is the use of these imaginary lights and colours, without achieving the Lord through your love, which excels the various worldly loves. I pity the foreigners, who are trapped in this false imaginary line of yoga, who are wasting their precious lifetime and energy. In fact, they are the best to succeed in yoga, if the reality of the yoga is exposed. Their family bonds are very weak and their love towrds God is real, which is proved by their huge sacrifice of money to God’s work. Money is the fruit of work and its sacrifice for God’s work is “Karma phala tyaga” as mentioned in Gita. Again, the middle age Indians twisted this word “Karma phala tyaga” as sacrifice of the fruit of the work like praying God instead of sacrifice of money. The reason was that these Indians were unable to sacrifice money to God due to their strong love on their children. Foreigners ask their children to earn after certain age. Indians store money even for ten generations and still continue to store only. Since prayers, meditation and knowledge are very much diverted to God, India was blessed by God with good language, good mind and good knowledge. Since foreigners are good in sacrifice, God blessed them with good wealth. Even Indian spiritual centres were strongly funded by foreigners only. Swami Vivekananda cried, “Why my India suffers with poverty in spite of so much spiritual knowledge?” Sacrifice of money (Karma phala tyaga) and sacrifice of work (karma Sanyasa) put together constitute the God’s service, which is the real Yoga (real proof of love) called “Karma yoga” in Gita. Foreigners are the best in this karma yoga and so they easily succeed in yoga. Throughout Gita, this karma yoga was explained as yoga and wheels or lotus flowers are not at all mentioned.

[Leo Volont]

Dear Dattaswami, There is a difference between what is merely imaginary, and what come from the Spirit, if one is speaking in spiritual terms, or from the Higher Mind, if one is speaking in psychological terms. Yes, imaginary light is very dim compared to what we experience of real light. But if you yourself had ever seen The White Light of the Spirit, the White Light of the Highest Dreams and Meditations (yes, even the Kundalini Meditation you cavalierly dismiss) then you would know that it is no dim second to real light. Also, you should know that imagination is active. One does not passively receive imaginations. We consciously assemble our imaginations with the same dim mind's eye that envisions our memories -- perceptable but not bright. Apparently these are the only forms of Vision you have ever experienced. Then, thinking nobody has ever in the history of the Universe experienced any higher or more intense Vision than these 'imaginations' of your own, you think there is nothing else. But, honestly, don't you think it a bit narrow and even disingenous to superimpose your own inexperience upon all of these Ancient Disciplines which we know you do not understand, because you can give no accurate descriptions of any of the typical States or Experiences. Also, it is nice that your brought up the Bhagavad Gita, but perhaps you should read it. It is rather short, and can be read easily in a sitting. If you were to read it you would find that you cannot quote the Bhagavad Gita to the discredit of Kundalini Yoga. No? Refer to Chapter 14 "Discrimination of the Three Qualities", where we find Sattva to be Light, Goodness and Bliss, Rajas to be activity, and Tamas to be sloth and darkness. Now go to Verse 11, "When the Light of Divinity shines in all of the Chakras of the Body, then we know that Sattva has prevailed". What is that verse but a Flying Endorcement of Kundalini Yoga. Anyway, we find that you are speaking 100% from theory and opinion, and have almost no experience, even of the things which you pretend to know about. You will find, if you stay around this Page long, that empty opinions and theories do not fetch much of a value. Here we know how real these Theories are only if they can be proven in our actual Subjective Experiences, if they can rise up in actual Dreams of Power and Light. And, yes, if you ever have a Real Vision, or an actual Big Dream, you will finally know the difference between Divinity and your dim imaginations. Oh, and I love your spin on Karma Yoga... how it is best done with by big spenders with large credit limits. Anyway, we can get the hint and know where you must be going with that, so Swami, to whom are we to make our checks out to?

[Feeble Wizard]

Those are some good points, Leo. I think the original post smells a bit like spam... This forum seems to be taking on a lot of spam lately...

[Merck]

Leo, you rock man. Dattaswami, please no more spam. Thank you.

[Leo Volont]

Yes, I began to suspect some Spamminess when a few days went by and Swamidatta had not returned to defend his Essay. You know, I almost conceded his points from the Bhagavad Gita, with the argument that the Bhagavad Gits is perhaps the shortest of the World Religious Literatures and certainly could not be expected to contain every item of pithy wisdom, and I even have the first sentence down in that direction when I think my Angel stopped my hand and put into my head the thought "Back 40 years ago did you not read the Bhagavad Gita through and through everyday for several years -- you should have it memorized! So how could it be possible that the Gita does not endorse all of the Favorite Yogas which we now practice. So I grabbed that same old dusty book off the shelf and had my passage within a minute. I was almost looking forward to Dattaswami coming back to be exasperated by my presentation. But often People borrow writings from their Cult Leaders and Post them On Line -- certainly they believe what is written, but they are in no position to defend or advance the Doctrines they Post -- their understanding of it only goes as far as an aesthetic appreciation, that is, they think it SOUNDS good enough, and so they wish it were True. It has not happened on this Page yet, but on other pages I've often received the strange compliment of having been asked from where I cut and pasted my Thread Starters. I simply replied -- "Bring it On! There is more where that came from!"

[Seeker]

Moved to philosophy

[dattaswami]

dear leo volont If whatever you said is correct then why Jesus preached like this? Luke—14:26 to 27 [Mathew: - 11:34 to 38] “If any one comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple’’. The knowledge is compared to a sword. Bhagavatgita says “Chhitva Jnanasinatmanah”. This means that the ignorance should be cut by the knowledge, which is like a sword. The bonds with wife or husband and children are due to ignorance. Such bonds should break when the Lord in human form competes with them to conduct His test. Lord comes in human form in every human generation to preach and give His direct presence. If the Lord comes in only one human generation, God becomes partial to that human generation because other human generations are not blessed with such opportunity. To see, to touch, to talk and to live with the human incarnation, He comes down as per the prayers of the devotees. The Lord comes to preach and so He will not enter the statues or animals or birds. Veda says “Na tasya pratima asti’’ which means that God will not enter the inert statues. Gita says “Manusheem tanu masritam” which means that God enters the human body only because the main purpose is to preach the human beings. Gita strongly says that he who worships the inert statues will be born as an inert stone (“Bhootani yanti”). The Christians should be commended on this point who are worshipping the Holy Jesus only, who is the most powerful human incarnation of God. Veda says “Na tat samah” which means that nobody and nothing should be equal to the Lord in human incarnation. One should leave everything and everybody for the sake of the Lord in human form. Only the bond with a new human being can break the bond with the human beings. Such new human being must be very powerful who can be only God in human form. A new bond existing with formless God or statues cannot break the human bonds. Only the bond with another living being can cut the bond with the living beings. The bond with formless God is impossible. The bond with inert statue has no use. The above statements of Holy Jesus indicate that one should cut the bonds with his family and with the wealth. In Hindu religion also it is said that God (Datta) cuts all the bonds of family and wealth (“Dattam Chinnam”). Even the bond with the body should be cut for the sake of the God. Gita says the same thing as “Mat Gata Pranah”. Holy Jesus says that one has to carry his own cross (death) for the sake of the Lord. This means that one has to invite his own death with his own hands for the sake of God. Holy Jesus did like this as an ideal example for others. This means that you have to cut your bonds not only with your family and wealth but also with your life if necessary. Hanuman, a top devotee, tore his heart with his own nails for the sake of the Lord and was blessed by the Lord to be immortal. So when the devotee sacrifices his life, his life gets protected forever. The essence of this gospel is that the love is proved only by the practical sacrifice. Matthew – 6 : 19 to 22 (Luke - 12 : 33 to 34) “Do not Lay up for yourselves, treasures on earth. But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven. For where your treasure is there your heart will be also”. Matthew -7: 21 “Not everyone who say to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but He who does the will of My Father in Heaven”. Veda says “Dhanena Tyage nyke…” which means that sacrifice of money proves the real love. Money is the fruit of the work. So money is another form of work. If it is inconvenient to sacrifice the money, at least they should sacrifice the other form of money, which is work for the sake of God. Depending on the money all the family members are attached to you. If money is not there all the family will leave you. You are also giving the money to your family only. Therefore if the bond with money is cut and if the money is sacrificed to God, the family bonds are considered as vanished, even though the family exists externally. The work of God in human form is the propagation of His divine gospel. at the lotus feet of shri datta swami

[Placebo]

Woah! It lives! Welcome back dattaswami With you and Leo, this could become a long and possibly quite interesting thread if we keep it rolling [EDIT: I see you two are already having a heated discussion in another thread ]