Why human beings cannot create human life?

[dattaswami]

The greatest item of the creation is pure awareness (Soul) only. The inert energy like light, heat, electricity, magnetism is more subtle and greater than the inert matter. The life energy that is produced in the oxidation of food is only the heat energy (Tejah sati- Veda) because the oxidation reaction is an exothermic reaction but the awareness, which is generated from the nervous system by the heat energy, is the most subtle and finest form of energy. The inter conversion of awareness and heat energy is understood theoretically but not possible in practice for the scientist. This does not mean that the life energy is independent and eternal without generation and resolution. The awareness disappears in deep sleep and appears when the person wakes up. This proves that the awareness is not eternal but inter-convertible form of inert energy only. Of course, the conversion is not in the hands of the scientist. Though the conversion is theoretically proved and accepted. When you stop the supply of food or oxygen, the heat energy is not produced in the digestion and the awareness disappears, which is the state of coma or deep sleep. When the life energy is not supplied, the death happens. In the last stage of the patient, though digestion stops, the respiration continues. Though food is not supplied, oxygen is supplied. Instead of food, the stored fat is oxidized. Therefore the patient is alive for sometime in spite of the absence of food. After sometime, the nervous system stops functioning either due to damage in the system or due to inadequate supply of the heat energy. This is the stage of unconsciousness. Finally in the last stage, the oxidation stops and no more heat energy is produced. We say hat the human being is dead due to absence of any trace of heat and the body becomes cool. This process of death is described in Veda (Manastejasi tejassati). Just in the last fraction of a second of the time of death, a small portion of the heat energy is used in the formation of the energetic body that goes out of the gross body along with the bundle of qualities, which are stored in the mind. The scientist cannot prepare this bundle of qualities accumulated from the past millions of births. He cannot bring back this bundle, which escaped from the gross body through the subtle body. Due to this reason only the dead person cannot be made alive. Otherwise science has developed the nervous system and brain in the Robot by introducing a small bundle of qualities as information chip. Therefore, the man is produced but the same man cannot be reproduced. The concept of Robot clearly proves that the awareness is also a form of inert energy because in Robot the electrical energy is converted into the so called awareness which is only the electro magnetic radiation. This energetic body is called as subtle body or ‘sukshma sareera’. This goes to the upper world, which is invisible as said in Veda (‘Manomayaha’) and in Gita (‘Vayurgandhan’, ‘Utkramamtam’). At the Lotus feet of Datta Swami

[Rakkantekimusouka]

Um, ever heard of reproduction? Humans certainly can create other humans. As to the rest of what you said, actually, it's very interesting.

[bradybaker]

Actually were getting pretty close to creating life in a laboratory. Depending on your definition of life, we already have. Human life is slightly more complex, but I wouldn't rule it out just yet.

[dattaswami]

Originally posted by Muhjah Um, ever heard of reproduction? Humans certainly can create other humans. As to the rest of what you said, actually, it's very interesting. For any authority, the final stage is experience, which alone gives the validity. The analysis of life energy, awareness etc. is done based on the experience of a human being existing here. All this is the analysis of the various aspects of the human being existing in this world. We have concluded that the awareness is the finest and greatest item in this world based on the practical analysis here itself. If the practical experience is neglected, the logic will lose its basis. In such situation, even the scripture cannot stand because one may say that the scripture itself is a false imagination of some mad person. Therefore all this analysis is based on the internal nature of the available human being. The analysis of the human being perfectly gives the analysis of this entire creation because any human being is a part of creation only. Therefore, the logical analysis and the practical experience associated forms the science. Any spiritual aspirant is an ordinary human being only and thus science is applicable for analysing your self. In fact the process of elimination only can do the attainment of self or the casual body, which is a perfect scientific procedure. Self is the best item of the creation and the analysis of self is also science. When you are an item of creation, Your ways and efforts cannot be supernatural and they must follow the natural rules of creation, which are again science only. Therefore you must use the logical scientific analysis in analysing yourself and your path to reach God. But God is beyond this creation who is the Creator. Therefore God cannot be analysed by science. When the goal is above science the scientific path cannot be meaningful because the scientific path will lead to such goal only, which can be analysed by science. For e.g.: let us take the path to Bombay, the path is on the Earth and Bombay is also on the Earth. A path that can be analyzed by logic can reach the goal, which must be also analyzed by the logic. If I start the journey to God and ask the path to reach Him, nobody can show the path because the God is invisible. An invisible goal will always have an invisible path. Nobody can travel in invisible path. One can show the path to a holy temple. If God exists in the statue, such path is a true path. The main purpose of reaching God is to know the whole knowledge of your self, the correct path and the correct goal. The reason is that God is the best preacher since all the matters are related to God. Therefore the Human Incarnation is the correct place of God. The human incarnation consists of a visible human body so that the path to reach Him also becomes visible. Since God is in the human incarnation, by reaching that human body you have reached God. In fact God pervaded all over the body and you have reached the God. The God becomes visible through human body and therefore the path to reach God is also visible. The main purpose to reach God is to hear the correct version of the entire spiritual knowledge. Then through service you have to please the God. In the case of statue, it is not preaching any trace of knowledge. Moreover when we serve the statute it is not appearing pleased on its face. Due to these two reasons neither God is in the statute nor God is the statute (Na tasya Pratima- Veda). The statute in the human form is a model to indicate the human form of the Lord. The ignorant human beings who cannot accept the human form of the God due to egoism and jealousy can worship the statue as a training for sometime to worship the human form of Lord in future ( Pratimahyalpa Buddhinam- Smruti). But one should not sit in the training through out his life. If he sits in the training only, he is born as an inert object like stone (Bhutejya yanti- Gita) At the Lotus feet of Datta Swami

[kimpossible]

Half a page of response without responding to either of the two observations made in any way. Aren't we supposed to like have to perilously risk our lives climbing some himalayan mountain peak to get this kinda saturation of rot?

[dattaswami]

Dear kimpossible: The point in the last posting is that; to get salvation; one has to believe in the present human incarnation.The main purpose of reaching God is to know the whole knowledge of your self, the correct path and the correct goal. The reason is that God is the best preacher since all the matters are related to God. Therefore the Human Incarnation is the correct place of God. The human incarnation consists of a visible human body so that the path to reach Him also becomes visible. Since God is in the human incarnation, by reaching that human body you have reached God. In fact God pervaded all over the body and you have reached the God. The God becomes visible through human body and therefore the path to reach God is also visible. At the Lotus feet of Datta Swami

[kimpossible]

So if life is created in the lab, then that life can't possibly reach salvation. Your god sounds like a real prick. It wasn't that sentient life-form's decision to be born into a body created by man in the lab. It was the researcher's decision. Yet your diety would punish the life rather than the researcher (or prehaps both). If I should ever meet up with this diety of yours, I'm going to pee in his wheaties. No one should be more of a jerk than me. It's just not healthy. Especially not for something that would run around saying that it is omnipotent.

[Placebo]

I guess it all comes down to what God's purpose was for us on this planet. If a human-made (ie. artificial/unusually created) being was created by us, would it fit into that original purpose? And no, I don't mean 'Prove Satan wrong' ... that's a medium term 'goal', not the original purpose for our creation, should you believe in it. In any event, I'm a bit schitzo at the moment in regards to our origins.