Wow. That's alot of stuff to read man. I got about half way through and had no freakkin' idea what you're talking about. I'm kinda stupid. lol. It's a nice long educational post or something like that though. |
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My sister, her coworker and me got into this idea: |
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"God, you gave us insufficient evidence" ~Bertrand Russell
Wow. That's alot of stuff to read man. I got about half way through and had no freakkin' idea what you're talking about. I'm kinda stupid. lol. It's a nice long educational post or something like that though. |
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~ Let others screw light bulbs in water faucets. Who cares? ~ Mr_Fire
Nothing is as it seems to be. |
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I'm tired being sorry.
Ohh. I understand now what he was talking about. Thanks Rav1. |
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~ Let others screw light bulbs in water faucets. Who cares? ~ Mr_Fire
lol, mmm coffee. Heh. I like coffee. Anyways..I'm soo bored, you don't even know. -Sighs-... |
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~ Let others screw light bulbs in water faucets. Who cares? ~ Mr_Fire
Yeah I agree with you there - reality is objective. A pretty concrete argument against subjectivity is this: |
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You don't get my sig? Hmm...Think about it. |
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~ Let others screw light bulbs in water faucets. Who cares? ~ Mr_Fire
I'm tired being sorry.
No no, I wasn't saying that you were doing that. I was just wondering if people understood er not. lol. Hrm. |
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~ Let others screw light bulbs in water faucets. Who cares? ~ Mr_Fire
I agree with Rav1. The existing universe is objective, our abilities to perceive it and much of our entire human experience is subjective. |
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- regarding to gregash's post - |
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I'm tired being sorry.
Yes, it seems like we are all in agreement. THough everyone else was able to say it in way more concise terms than my original post I like the grass analogy between people and cows. Maybe bacause it got across exactly what I was trying to say, maybe because I just like cows. |
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"God, you gave us insufficient evidence" ~Bertrand Russell
Polarift do you know Theresa? |
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Nope. No idea. Honestly, I have just gotten back into dream views after about an 8 month absence so I don't really know all that has been going on here. Even these new forums have caught me off guard... when did they do the changeup? |
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"God, you gave us insufficient evidence" ~Bertrand Russell
Sorry dude! I haven't been here very long this place looked like this when I arrived here. I heard it was different but I couldn't tell you when it was changed I'm sure someone will be in shortly to answer that question. And in regards to Theresa I just figured it was quite funny that you guys share a similar interest in Calvin and Hobbs. |
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Very intresting topic. I personally see things in a way that there is Nothing objective. At least nothing we can concept. Since conception is subjective. We do not really see the things our eyes see. All we concept of 'true reality' is just what our minds make out of the bombardement of neurons that get their pulses from light-sensative nervecells. |
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“What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume
Even if all of this is a matrix option thing, does that deny what all of this is? what I mean to say is that even inside of a matrix, we are all perceiving something. Even though we all perceive it differently, there is still something there. If it is a matrix option thing, then reality as we know it is entirely based within the matrix. The matrix IS our reality. Wether it is true or not doesn't matter, as long as something is there, then something must exist, therefor existence remains objective. |
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"God, you gave us insufficient evidence" ~Bertrand Russell
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