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      Feeding Your Reflection.. Why "doing" doesn't help

      This is a Brilliant analogy my sister came up with the other day, and I feel it's worth sharing. It describes perfectly what I believe : that nothing we do physically actually has an effect in the physical. Only the rate at which we're vibrating creates and attracts. Physical actions are only to make it make sense to the conscious mind, so that it will accept it as possible within the physical state.

      Here's her anaology.......

      Trying to make changes in the physical world without changing inside ourselves first, is like trying to put make-up on your reflection in the mirror. As soon as you move, you can see there's no make-up on you. So then you try and put make-up on the image again, but there's never any real change because it's only a reflection. When you put make-up on your own face, then no matter what mirror you look in, your reflection has the make-up on as well.

      But it's natural for us to keep trying to put the make-up on the reflection because that's what we can see - we can't see our real selves. It looks to us as though, in order to change the image, we have to make changes to the image itself

      If you try feeding your reflection, you still starve. AND your reflection will reflect your starvation - no matter how much you try to feed it.

      Whereas, if you feed yourself, you don't need to do anything to your reflection - the changes will be shown automatically because it is a reflection.

      Everything in the physical world is a reflection of some aspect of our inner selves. And as we make changes to our inner selves, people and situations (the reflection) will reflect those changes, and each aspect we change, will be reflected in all mirrors. If you put make-up on your own face, you'll see it in EVERY reflection - every mirror. If you feed yourself, you'll see a healthy reflection in EVERY mirror.

      The physical world is the reflection and so nothing we do to it will really change anything permanently. Only the changes we make inside ourselves - which is like our real self that we can't see except in a mirror - those changes are real, and those are then reflected in the "mirrors" - the physical world. I hope this makes sense

      There's one more part to it, which is about how long it takes for the changes made inside, to show in the "reflection" outside..... I'll put this in a separate post for convenience of reading

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      The Speed of Reflection!

      When making changes within yourself in order to change outside yourself, it's important to accept that there is usually a time delay between your conscious decision to make the changes (for example, self love, or changing beliefs about money etc.).......... and the results you see in your life. And this time delay will depend on the particular issue, and how engrained the belief/pattern is.

      You may, for example, have a belief that the only way to get support from a loved one, is to be struggling and in crisis - and this belief will be programmed into all your cells. It will be a part of you. It may have been programmed from childhood experiences..... this will probably take quite a while to change.

      When you decide to change something about yourself, 90% of you didn't get the memo yet! It takes a while to filter through, depending on the subject and how strong it is programmed in you.

      There's no way of knowing how long it will take for anyone's unconscious to catch up with the conscious decisions. The only time you'll know, is when you see some kind of result - then you'll know, ah, more of me has now caught up

      But the good news is, it won't be a case of all 90% all the time. Different aspects will change at different times and it will probably be gradual. And it will be different for different changes.....

      For example, imagine a coffee shop. Every day for the last twenty years, a particular customer has come in at 11am and ordered a black coffee with four sugars. All the staff know him, and he no longer needs to order. As soon as the staff see him, they make a black coffee with four sugars, and serve it to him. Then one day, he changes his order. When they bring him the coffee, he tells them he no longer wants sugar in it.

      Now, the next time he comes in, one of two things happen: either, the same staff member serves him, but is so in the habit of putting four sugars in the coffee, she goes ahead and does it automatically and has to be reminded by the customer - no sugar. Or..... a different staff member - who hasn't been told about the change, will automatically make the coffee - black with four sugars.

      So, it depends on how many staff members there are, and what kind of communication exists between them. It will also depend on each individual staff member, and their own individual ability to get out of the habit, as to how long it will be before it becomes automatic for the customer to receive a black coffee with NO sugar.

      During this transition, he may sometimes get black coffee without sugar, and then get four sugars again. Sometimes he may get two sugars, because the staff member caught herself half-way through putting sugar in, and stopped. But each time he comes in, he's getting closer to what he wants, because each time he comes in and the coffee is made - even when they accidently put sugar in it, the message is getting more and more ingrained. And then one day, he'll walk in and his coffee will be automatically served without sugar, and the next day, it will happen again..... and so it will become the norm.

      Now.... here's another example - and this explains the difference between the subject matter...

      Imagine a Railway Junction. There are two workers who control the signals at this railway junction. Both have been doing this for twenty years. Every day for twenty years, two trains come from opposite directions at 4pm. And every day for twenty years, the controller on duty has set the signal for the East-bound train to stop, in order to allow the West-bound train through, before then giving the green signal to the East-bound one.

      One day, both controllers receive a message to say there's a new addition to the track, and from now on, you don't need to stop the East-bound train - there is a new track for it. Now, imagine how long it's going to take for those controllers to trust that new instruction - considering that if it's not true, or if it's an error, the trains will crash and people will be killed.

      So in this senario, unlike the coffee shop where it was just a case of everyone getting the message and getting into the new habit - in this senario you've got the Danger element as well!!
      And THAT will take longer. These controllers may need to receive that message many times before they believe and trust it.

      And one of the controllers may be more trusting than the other, so he may one day allow the train through - and that will work fine. But the other controller may not hear about it, so he may continue to hang onto the old instructions for a while longer - "just in case". But no matter how long it takes, if he continues to get the message, he will eventually trust that it is true and not a mistake, and/or he will hear about the success from the other controller. And he too will then make the change.

      We have no idea of what our cells consider "dangerous" - for example, trusting may feel dangerous - that may be the equivilant to some of our cells, of changing the train signals after all these years.
      After allllll these years of not trusting, now suddenly they're told they can trust, well it will take a while for that to get through. Whereas, getting into the habit of noticing the good stuff day-to-day would be more like the coffee shop - a habit change.

      So the best thing we can do is to remind ourselves that this is what is happening behind the scenes, and to be patient . Knowing that the message is getting through, and that the results will begin to show as each part of you receives, and trusts the message. The more understanding and patient you are, the easier and faster the changes will happen because the less stress, the less resistance to the changes.

      And as the rest of the 90% of you catches up with your conscious mind, you'll THEN start to see the results of those changes reflected in your physical world (your mirrors) - money/ relationships/ health/ career etc.

      So, if it feels like you're doing everything right, and you're changing your vibrations by focusing on feeling good, and you're out of the habit of negative beliefs, but you're not seeing the results in the physical world, remember that the majority of you hasn't got the memo yet, but if you keep going, it will!

      I hope this makes sense.

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      I agree with the things you say in general, about how your inner game is what matters most, which will be reflected in your outer behaviour almost automatically. I'm not sure about "vibrations", but I'll assume you're not talking about the silly "stones" people tend to use, and that you mean it in the colloquial, "I'm getting a vibe that..." type of thing which means "I have a feeling that..."

      However, I'm not sure I agree on the "3 min per week" gimmick which, ultimately, is what you're trying to get at. Since I don't click on sig links as a rule, what approach are you pushing? Some subset of NLP, no doubt?

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      Hi Replicon

      When I say vibration, I'm referring to the fact that everything vibrates. All matter is energy and energy is constantly moving - at various rates of vibration. And like attracts like (Law of Attraction). I don't know about the stones.

      The link in my signature is to Paths, which is something I use, and certainly not the reason I wrote this post. I've never done NLP but I know a little bit about it and Paths is actually nothing like it It's something very different, and if you'd like to know more do pm me. I won't go into any more detail here as I don't want to distract from the subject of the thread.

      I belong to several self development forums, and I coach, and this subject came up in my email coaching sessions with a couple of people....

      One person has been frantically struggling to "fix" something in his life for the last 6 years - and I mean really struggling. Financially, emotionally and physically. But he has been determined to continue trying. His story is really unbelievable - the incredible challenges he's faced are so over-the-top, if I didn't know him personally I'd wonder if it was exagerated. Absolutely everything he tries goes wrong - sometimes in the most unlikely way!

      But he felt he couldn't let go and he felt the only way to solve the problem was to continue trying to physically change things. So, my first post here was what I wrote for him. I also shared it with others and they found it really really helpful as well.

      My second post, was to someone else, who was very frustrated by the fact that she had made changes to the way she thinks and the way she feels, but although she'd seen a few small improvements in some areas, it seemed to be taking a very long time for her to see certain results. (this is an issue I've seen quite often with people who have found out about the Law of Attraction - usually through the movie The Secret)This is the information I wrote for her, and I felt it was worth sharing as I found it so helpful. I also realised it needs to be said after the first one as when we look in a mirror, we immediately see the reflection, whereas of course, the analogy doesn't carry through quite like that. There is a delay

      This information stands on its own completely and needs no tools or anything else that costs money - it's only a change of perception

      Hope this answers your queries. xx

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      Hi Illusions, and thanks for the clarification!

      Okay, so we're pretty much on the same page then . Indeed, a change of perception is all it takes sometimes. And I've found the delay between your inner and outer isn't all that long, unless you procrastinate a lot. Of course, I DO procrastinate quite a bit, but I've recognized that, and just that recognition helps to speed things up.

      The only thing about the law of attraction that I can't stand is the way people are trying to pass it off scientifically. I mean, yeah, like attracts like. If you're confident, you will do better, and all that. Also, the rich get richer, etc. It's kind of a law of the universe in a way, but... I think it's a PSYCHOLOGICAL law, and it should be studied at that level. It's a pretty textbook "upwards spiral" type of thing. And yet, the proponents are talking about it as if it were quantum physics. I really don't buy the "vibration frequency" theory.

      Yes, "matter is energy" on some level, and therefore we can derive a wavelength (and frequency, its complement), but the "like frequencies attract" theory sounds like a whole lot of hot air. How exactly do you scientifically explain "like frequencies" attracting on the level of psychology? Furthermore, when you're talking about frequency on the QUANTUM level, you can't expect me to believe that everyone who is "confident" will have the same frequency, or even within "beat range".... Confidence is attitude... a "demeanor" of sorts... how do you even measure that frequency, and how do you prove that it's not interfered with by other frequencies (like say all other matter around it, which also has very high freq.)?

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      Great points, Replicon - and I had very similar reservations when I first found out about the LOA. (Along with a lot of others lol)

      I've recently come across this interview (someone on the "Beyond Dreaming" forum posted it), and it will probably answer a lot of your questions.

      The interview is in 11 parts, each one about 10 minutes. Through the interview, he goes into detail of the scientific experiments carried out on this subject - it's very interesting!

      Hope you enjoy it Let me know what you think. xx


      Interview with Gregg Braden (The Devine Matrix)


      1st http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjM9J...related&search=

      2nd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-716...related&search=

      3rd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gObFt...related&search=

      4th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC22A...related&search=

      5th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZJ21...related&search=

      6th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YGWj...related&search=

      7th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKfaH...related&search=

      8th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dKUQ...related&search=

      9th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3Yi...related&search=

      10th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtMqL...related&search=

      11th http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS4od...related&search=

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      Sweet thanks! I'll look into it, out of curiosity (when I have time, probably tomorrow night or something).

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      It's the same thing at so many different levels. We get caught up in appearances, we treat symptoms rather than causes...
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      I'm sorry, but there is no distinction between the 'physical world' and our 'inner selves.' We are physical, and our thoughts are physical processes.

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