I think the laws of logic are completely solid, but only the real laws of logic. I am not talking about mere human concpetions of them. I mean the ones that were part of reality before humans ever existed. |
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I recently encountered Godel's incompleteness theorem (there's two technically). What it basically states is that there are some statements in mathematics, many of them very simple, which are impossible to actually prove using mathematics. |
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I think the laws of logic are completely solid, but only the real laws of logic. I am not talking about mere human concpetions of them. I mean the ones that were part of reality before humans ever existed. |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
sometimes, however, that law does work. |
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"There are people who say there is no God, but what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." ~Albert Einstein
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I'm not a mathematician, but I am familiar with Godel's theorems. Your description is not quite accurate in what they imply. The gist of the theorems is that any mathematical or logical system that is complex enough to be complete must contain inconsistencies. |
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Neither but then again, does it have to be a choice of true and not true, instead of two others? |
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"There are people who say there is no God, but what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views." ~Albert Einstein
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Logic is a human tool for examining phenomena and our own thoughts and activity, and communicating our results. Like our other technologies, we can benefit from bringing it more closely in conformity with nature, but it's a mistake to take logic as "part of reality." |
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