An intresting Thoery

[Retardlx]

Ok i was talking to a freind about this last night i just wonder what you lot would make of this Ok say There is a god out there somewhere not from any paticulatr religion or anything imagin this god and all powerfull immortal being cabable of anything. I was thinking what if the god could do anything apart from destroy himself being immortal this would be im possibal but being all powerfull wouldnt that mean he could? ok so i was taliking to my friend she suggested to me that the big bang could have mearly been gods atempt at destroying him self and now accordign to scientists the univers is contracting inwards this could be god trying to pull him self back together. you kind of have to look at it as if Time doesnt exsist for it to make sense for example time is mearly a concept thought up by humans and thats everythign is "as it is" so to speak. i know this could sound a bit far fetched and some1 has probaly thought of this be for ui just wondered what you all though

[Peregrinus]

The universe isn't contracting; in fact, the rate of expansion is accelerating.

[CT]

And why the hell would god try to destroy himself. Just to prove that he can? And woulndt he just dissapear instead of creating lots of mass. And yeah, it seems like the universe is expanding, not contracting. So this theory does not make much sense to me.

[Retardlx]

the universe could be contracting or expanding theres is proof to prove either. meh i know its a bit far fetched any way i just found it intresting.

[Universal Mind]

I thought the universe was expanding but slowing down. Astronomers are debating whether the universe will ever start contracting. If it does, and the big bang happens again exactly the same way it did last time, the universe will happen exactly the same way again. If that happens an infinite number of times, then we are immortal. Maybe it has happened an infinite number of times. If God is infinitely powerful, then he could kill himself and still be immortal. He would be able to do contradictory things because he would be in charge of the laws of contradiction and all other laws of reality. P.S.- Does anybody know what happened to my blue algae thread? I checked it a few days ago and saw that a really interesting conversation was going on. Did Evangel or somebody make it get ugly or start dissing the moderators?

[Peregrinus]

Damn script-kiddie. Before the hack, I had a several posts in extended discussion about dark energy and the evidence from the emission spectra of distant supernova events that confirm that the expansion of the universe is indeed accelerating. It is not contracting. It is not slowing down. According to the latest observations and measurements, it is in fact, accelerating. That's not speculation. That's observed reality.

[Universal Mind]

Originally posted by Peregrinus Damn script-kiddie. *Before the hack, I had a several posts in extended discussion about dark energy and the evidence from the emission spectra of distant supernova events that confirm that the expansion of the universe is indeed accelerating. *It is not contracting. *It is not slowing down. *According to the latest observations and measurements, it is in fact, accelerating. *That's not speculation. *That's observed reality. It looks like a new major theory has taken the lead in the debate about the expansion of the universe. I should read a different astronomy textbook every year to stay current. Maybe I should do that in every subject even though I'm not in school any more. That would be cool.

[Joseph_Stalin]

Besides, it is the nature of things to become more disordered, though some theists argue that we are become more ordered... In fact, the moon itself ventures farther away from Earth every year, little by little, but this is only a few inches. (Off topic, but there's some speculation that an asteroid the size of a few football fields will approach near, or hit, Earth in 2029...and no, this wasn't said by raging lunatics, but by actual scientists)

[Boof]

Originally posted by Joseph_Stalin (Off topic, but there's some speculation that an asteroid the size of a few football fields will approach near, or hit, Earth in 2029...and no, this wasn't said by raging lunatics, but by actual scientists) ye i read about it. the scientists are calculating a 1 to 45 chance it will hit us. pretty good odds but theres still a possibility it will hit us. i hope we are ready when the day comes.

[Kaniaz]

i believe it's 1 in 235 or something, according to slashdot

[Joseph_Stalin]

Whatever the odds are, I hope it destroys most of modern society so that we may rebuild the world with more...appropriate political idealogies...

[Peregrinus]

Originally posted by Joseph_Stalin Whatever the odds are, I hope it destroys most of modern society so that we may rebuild the world with more...appropriate political idealogies... The asteroid that is theorized to have put an end to the dinosaurs was larger than a city. A quater-mile long asteroid would cause significant damage and upheaval in the area of impact, but I hardly think it would destroy most of modern society.

[pyrhho]

Doesn't have to destroy all of modern society. It only needs to destroy enough for the rest of society to destroy itself.

[Universal Mind]

I hope y'all are joking and don't really want that many people to die. I wouldn't want most of modern society to die in hopes of there being less dying. Wanting most of modern society to die would not be considered an appropriate ideology. It is exactly the major ideology Hitler had. However, maybe there can be a few days where everybody on Earth is completely convinced life on Earth is about to be wiped out, but then it turns out not to be the case. World religion would be turned inside out in a few dozen hours, but not necessarily for the better. There would definately, however, be a much greater sense of world unity everywhere.

[Kaniaz]

Yeah - think of all the people converting to Christianity and whatnot in the last few supposed days when we're all about to die, and then it misses. What I am sure of, though, is that humans will probably never been all extinct. We've evolved to survive, and we've done a good job of it so far...

[bradybaker]

Originally posted by pyrhho+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pyrhho)</div> Doesn't have to destroy all of modern society. It only needs to destroy enough for the rest of society to destroy itself.[/b] Agreed. <!--QuoteBegin-Kaniaz What I am sure of, though, is that humans will probably never been all extinct. We've evolved to survive, and we've done a good job of it so far... We've been around for what? A few million years? That's less than the blink of an eye on the cosmic scale. Even if we do make it through the next few billion years we still have to worry about the Sun exploding. Then in a few trillion years all matter will have decayed into their subatomic constituents, all that'll be left is a giant cosmic soup of quarks and bosons and neutrinos and whatever else. I'd like to see us evolve beyond that.

[Kaniaz]

I was thinking as I wrote that post (but neglected to write), that on the big scale of things, we're like the newcomers to the universe. But between now and a few dozen years or so, I expect colonization of other planets will be in our grasp (and we'll do it). Reminds me of the Ender's Game series (ever read that?) where the humans are almost wiped out by aliens, so right after we go and bash 'em, we colonize a bunch of other planets - so it's alot harder to wipe out the whole human race. Even if we don't get it in a dozen years, we've still got a billion or so until the sun explodes. Of course, a meteroite could just hit us before then, but I'm excluding that - we'll just have to get lucky between now and then.

[Joseph_Stalin]

A few billion years from now, something like our sun exploding will be comical. Say...we have new transportation methods...new research in god knows what? Well, that is if we last that long, which is pretty doubtful. At most I give the human race 50 thousand more years.

[bradybaker]

You're forgetting the part where matter (specifically protons) decays into their constituent parts. Pretty hard for humans to survive when there are no such things as atoms anymore.

[Boof]

Originally posted by bradybaker You're forgetting the part where matter (specifically protons) decays into their constituent parts. Pretty hard for humans to survive when there are no such things as atoms anymore. what if we can stop that from happening? think what science has accomplished the last 200 hundred years and imagine what not one million years of science can bring(if we can continue in this... rate that is). maybe we even find a way to travel to other universes... (if there are any others). i imagine a world where we, the humans, are gods. not bound to either matter or time. man... i hope we survive...

[Belisarius]

Kinda like the G-man in Half-Life.

[Joseph_Stalin]

Well there's nothing to say we can't reverse though effects or something to that effect. Or just enter another state of being. Whatever happens, happens, and we're probably going to have a lot of research in quantum physics. Traveling in split-seconds anywhere, things like that. Time travel doesn't seem to likely, probably more problems seeing as your atoms and particles have been removed (not destroyed, but more to the affect, and will reappear at a different location), and that isn't possible physically, anyway.

[bradybaker]

You guys play too many video games and watch too many movies.

[Kaniaz]

Originally posted by bradybaker You're forgetting the part where matter (specifically protons) decays into their constituent parts. Pretty hard for humans to survive when there are no such things as atoms anymore. Oh dear. Well we're just have to use alot of duct tape to keep it all together.

[Haz]

Originally posted by Belisarius Kinda like the G-man in Half-Life. Heh, he's indestructable. Try and shoot him, and he's like metal *ahem* Anyway, I believe that the human race will actually become extinct one day. Even if there are no universal devestations. Think about probability; were all going to end up in some sort of accident, if we never become extinct that would mean we have an eternity to live. The probability for an accident to happen to us might be small but it will still happen, as there is such a small chance. We can not diminish this accident but it will still happen one day, as the accident is given an eternity to happen, therefore it will still happen at one point. Just face it, were doomed. ~Haz