No. And that's the beauty of it. |
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Is there any one philosophical theory that can be agreed upon by all philosophers (philosopher in this case being those who have spent extensive time studying the subject)? How many different arguments are there for truth, consciousness, human nature, purpose, how to live a good life, and so on? If there is one thing that I can accept in totality, it's that there is no real truth in the universe. Truth is a human invention, a matter of make believe that cannot exist without a mind to think about it. But what I just said is also no more than a belief, and what truth is there in my belief? |
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No. And that's the beauty of it. |
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That's an easy one. No one agrees on anything. Someone's bound to disagree with what you said btw. :p |
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"The only certainty, the only absolute truth in life that you can accept with certainty is this, you exist. The manner in which you exist, be it part of a universal conciousness or as another person's thoughts or even as some metaphysical manifestation is irrelevant to this end. To have even a semblance of thought or illusion of life, this existance is compulsory." ~Whitstine |
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Nope, everyone sees everything differently, and if everyone agrees with the idea that every sees things different, then we are all wrong. |
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Don't eat shrooms. They don't make you understand anything lol. They leave you more confused and lost than when you started. |
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Philosophers agree that philosophy is cool. That's about all... |
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They <3 Phil. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
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Don't objectivists (or one of those movements) argue that you can prove the world around you? I've got a philosophy book that really covers all the bases, but it's really logic (if A then B) driven and I can't bring myself to read it. No examples, really. |
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"In watermelon sugar the deeds were done and done again as my life is done in watermelon sugar. I'll tell you about it because I am here and you are distant."
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Upon my agreement of your post I realized that my original question could have been expounded upon. What I wanted to add (and should have added) was that philosophy can't so far actually prove something to someone else, and it includes your statement. Yes, I can certainly agree that I exist, but I cannot prove that to you. I can also tell you that YOU exist, but you can only prove that to yourself. I can at least belief it. |
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This was that cult, and the prisoners said it had always existed and always would exist, hidden in distant wastes and dark places all over the world until the time when the great priest Cthulhu, from his dark house in the mighty city of R'lyeh under the waters, should rise and bring the earth again beneath his sway.
Cogito ergo sum? |
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If a bunch of "philosophers" were to go camping in some desolite location and eat mushrooms I guarantee they would all agree on many things on many levels on many dimensions... I see this thread becoming more a debate on the effects of shrooms and philosophy though..... probably been done before, should be done again... for I believe truth, clarity and universal agreement can come out through "psychedelic glasses" |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
Nope, and certainly not the only position taken by philosophers. One alternate view is "I am so long as I think I am," that when the subject ceases saying "I," it is not present, and the conviction of a persistent personal identity is a fiction authored by the "I" each time it resumes. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
I don't see why "I am so long as I think I am" wouldn't fall under "I think therefore I am". |
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You can wedge it in semantically, but it directly opposes the philosophy behind "Cogito ergo sum." Where Descartes presented thought as definitive evidence of a thinker, I'm proposing that the thinker is a product of the thoughts, without prior or independent existence. The subject is a passing activity of consciousness, not the source of consciousness. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
One thing all philosophers agree on: logic. The logical method: non-contradiction, obligatory logical implications, and all of its consequences (which involves many fields of philosophy). This is a complicated matter, which involves groups theory, cause and consequence, affirmation and negation, etc etc. On the scientific level, you can also take historic fact as valid logic (as long as the fact is real, of course). Truth is not a human invention. But, of course, what humans take for true isn't necessarily so. |
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Saying quantum physics explains cognitive processes is just like saying geology explains jurisprudence.
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