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knight31
You do realize that evolution as a theory is on it's way out these days for several reasons. One it doesn't make sense, and many of them being people who try and dress it up as if there were more evidence then there really is, which I can see you are one of those, and by committing fraud to support their claims, is also really discrediting for the evolutionist perspective. No other perspective in science has done so much fraud before. We can not trace things back and that's utter nonsense. Only hardcore evolutionist would ever claim that there is not missing links. The rest of us know and can clearly obviously see many large missing links, or simply no connections are all eif you want to be specific.
Only in your little fantasy world is science turning against evolution. Evolution has pretty much been considered fact for the last 50 years, and all scientist accepts it and there is a ton of evidence to prove it, and I keep naming all the evidence and you just totally ignore what I say.
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mutations are reversible for instance parents who have certain genetic conditions might have a child that is not vulnerable to that in their genes. The problem is you cannot demonstrate that you could mutate enough from bacteria to a human in the period that earth has existed for. Mutations in dna happen all the time but they don't lead to an advancement in DNA. You keep ignoring this fact because otherwise you would have to admit that mutations is not evolving into anything more complex which is what your theory needs to accomplish to be valid.
I already explained this, there is genetic disorders where you can have extra chromosomes and things of that nature. So it is a proven fact that a mutation can cause dna to change and be more complex. DNA with an extra chromosome would be more complex.
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Genetics are known to interact with environment but mutations cannot make DNA more complex! When are you going to understand that concept? Replication of Dna through cells, and the growing of a fetus, is nothing to do with your theory of evolution. That's just copying dna from what already exists, so that's a really bad example! Your theory states that advancements through mutations can occur, but that's actually impossible, even over a long period of time. An according to you evolution would go according to whatever benefits the organism in it's current environment, so depending on the current environment it actually would be totally random because the environment changes all the time.
I already proved that dna can change, you are just ignoring the facts.
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According to you we went from bacteria in ocean, or from nothing in the ocean, to human. That's not a minor change even for trillions of years that's not a minor change, and it's more than turning into something, it's flat out getting something from nothingness.
Again evolution explains how life advanced from single cell organisms to the more complex ones we have today, it doesn't explain how the earth got created, or how life started. Those are different theories.
So what? You ask for evidence and I give you evidence and you just ignore it.
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I realize you can study rocks and things for the age of certain things, but you haven't got a full picture of what it was like billions of years ago. You are not being scientific or giving me any examples of what you believe. This is plain arrogance that you think you can say it's all true without proving reasons behind what you say. don't you realize even today they are discovering new things about our past constantly. Just about everything of our past contradicts what you claim here.
I already gave you proof and explained my reasons. There is fossil and rock evidence showing that all early creatures came from the sea.
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So does colds and flus, and other viruses, change and adpat, but so what? It doesn't prove mutations actually increase dna complexity. A virus remains a virus, it doesn't change it to something else through 'evolution' in the way that you claim.
Exactly, colds and flus and viruses that change and adapt are evolving. They are just more evidence that evolution is in fact correct and accurate.
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No it isn't. Those errors are not even significant enough to lead to anything, ever. And errors in dna can actually cure themselves too.
Yes they are, I already proved to you how things changed, it is how we get different breeds of dogs and how the bacteria changed over time in that experiment. You only ignore the evidence because it proves you wrong.
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There is not enough time in the universe from when science theorizes the big bang occurs, for what you are claiming to have evolved, to evolved into what we see today. That is your big fundamental problem that cannot be overcome with your current paradigm. You either have to adopt a new theory or give up.
You are just misjudging the amount of time involved in things. You are a poor judge of math and that has been shown already.
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How does a jellyfish in the sea, pass traits off to change their dna into a human? Your theory is pure lunacy.
It does one step at a time. I can't believe you are still claiming things don't change when there is overwhelming evidence of pretty much everything changing all around us. You even mentioned things like viruses changes. You claim things change but then say that things changing is impossible. Your position makes no logical sense and your contradicting your self.
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Everything is made up of the elements go look up a periodic table. What do you think living organisms are made of? Atoms. Remember you have 50 genetics in common with a banana.
Everything is made up of elements but that isn't what you said. You said brick and wood was an element and they are not. Look up brick on the periodic table, it isn't there.
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When the earth was created it had to come from something, matter, scientist theorized it was 'the big bang'. Your theory of evolution requires a beginning still. You can't just say living organisms appeared from nothing or that they always existed on earth. That would go against what you believe is your theory. But that's where you have to start. That's what is so amusing about all this is your contradictions.
The theory of evolution doesn't require a beginning. Just like the theory of gravity doesn't need to explain how gravity came to exist for us to know things are attracted to each other. Also we know at the early formation of the earth life could not live on this planet, so it is impossible that life has always existed on earth. At least not in anything remotely close to modern life.
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It doesn't clearly explain it cause there is no explanation for your theory cause it makes no sense. This is why you have no choice but to keep saying "yes it's true" without giving a reason about how it possible could make sense.
There is like 5 pages of me explaining it to you, you are just failing to grasp the concept. I bet if I asked you to repeat my argument and explain my position you couldn't explain it accurately. Evolution is the only logical answers for how life changed over time on earth and there is tons and tons of evidence and experimentation proving it to be fact.