Thread: message to lucifers followers

Originally Posted by knight31

People who follow satan refuse god and the wages of sin is death. If you want details of the exact external environment, then the external environment will match your internal state. If your internal state is full of conflict, your external state will reflect that.

Ah ok, that begins to explain it. Are you talking about after death, your external environment matches your internal state?

Just so I understand though, there is a hell and sinners do suffer there eternally right? But being deceived by Satan isn't enough of a sin to land you there?

Alright, I do feel I was being pretty hard-headed in this thread, and for that I apologize to both of you, Knight31 and Joanna. I'm glad I entered into this conversation though, because it's opening my eyes to a few things I didn't understand before. Thank you both for answering my questions.

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I see you've added a bit to your answer. No, I understand playing harps on clouds and lakes of burning blood etc are mostly just Hollywood conventions, and I'm actually somewhat familiar with Dante's Inferno, where he described many different types of tortures, each fitting the sins of the people trapped on that level. But now I'm confused again - you said the wages of sin is death - does that mean there is no hell? Or does it mean sinners die and then suffer these torments? Or are you saying that while we're still alive our external environment matches our inner state, like a heaven and hell on earth kind of thing?

Just when I thought I was beginning to understand it too!

Does anybody else understand who might be able to explain it more clearly?

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Ah ok, that begins to explain it. Are you talking about after death, your external environment matches your internal state?

Just so I understand though, there is a hell and sinners do suffer there eternally right? But being deceived by Satan isn't enough of a sin to land you there?

Alright, I do feel I was being pretty hard-headed in this thread, and for that I apologize to both of you, Knight31 and Joanna. I'm glad I entered into this conversation though, because it's opening my eyes to a few things I didn't understand before. Thank you both for answering my questions.

** Edit

I see you've added a bit to your answer. No, I understand playing harps on clouds and lakes of burning blood etc are mostly just Hollywood conventions, and I'm actually somewhat familiar with Dante's Inferno, where he described many different types of tortures, each fitting the sins of the people trapped on that level. But now I'm confused again - you said the wages of sin is death - does that mean there is no hell? Or does it mean sinners die and then suffer these torments? Or are you saying that while we're still alive our external environment matches our inner state, like a heaven and hell on earth kind of thing?

Just when I thought I was beginning to understand it too!

Does anybody else understand who might be able to explain it more clearly?

Do i detect a hint of sarcasm? often when people ask that question especially on this forum, it is to with winning an argument, so if you wanted actual clarification then that is different. Going by your track record on the thread here though you don't want clarification of anything I am saying lol.

knight31, as I am a Christian, I appreciate that you are trying to spread the love of Jesus... but you should probably try to SHOW his love while doing it. Just saying.

So, yeah, God bless.

Originally Posted by Jacob528491

knight31, as I am a Christian, I appreciate that you are trying to spread the love of Jesus... but you should probably try to SHOW his love while doing it. Just saying.

So, yeah, God bless.

I hate fake Christians. They are worse than atheists.

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Actually, I am a christian.

Originally Posted by Jacob528491

Actually, I am a christian.

Well then act like one.