Question could a Human be a God?

**AHiddenSaint** · 12-16-2005 10:47 AM

Ok I know this question is going to sound strange, but I have always wondered if a Human could be a God? Lets put this into context say a person knew they might not be a normal person because of events that happen in their lives. Say that person had the ability to save this world, but decided not to use it? What if our very nature as humans made a person born of God live in fear of their own power? What if that person only wished to observe humanity and not control it? Would being a born as a human make a person related to a God understand our own lives better? What if God created humanity in order to free his ownself from boredom? Just thought they were some interesting questions. I love to think beyond normal logic and explore deep thoughts.

**InTheMoment** · 12-16-2005 08:34 PM

Originally posted by AHiddenSaint
Ok I know this question is going to sound strange, but I have always wondered if a Human could be a God? Lets put this into context say a person knew they might not be a normal person because of events that happen in their lives. Say that person had the ability to save this world, but decided not to use it? What if our very nature as humans made a person born of God live in fear of their own power? What if that person only wished to observe humanity and not control it? Would being a born as a human make a person related to a God understand our own lives better? What if God created humanity in order to free his ownself from boredom? Just thought they were some interesting questions. I love to think beyond normal logic and explore deep thoughts.

Reminds me of a Joan Osbourne song.

**Sortilegio** · 12-16-2005 08:58 PM

Reminds me of a Joan Osbourne song.[/b]

lol

Well its a very filosofical and long discussive thing to wonder about. What I could say is that it would be very selfish to think as of one being god, but everyone on the otherhand, I'd say then we must be some sort of cause or destiny mission to not be able to use our powers, I doubt a god would fear, but then again, god could mean millions of things.

**hop_ic** · 12-16-2005 10:34 PM

no

**caminar** · 12-17-2005 01:48 AM

a human is said to either save the world or destroy it. and if a god who has lived among humans could understand this, then the fear of using those hidden powers would only lead to his/her own demise when they witness the destruction of their home knowing that they had the power to save it. just a taught

I have always believed that those who have the power to change something, should not be afraid of doing so.

**kimpossible** · 12-17-2005 03:53 AM

You need look no further than me to answer your question.

**AHiddenSaint** · 12-17-2005 07:22 AM

Originally posted by kimpossible
I don't want to hear about the brain from someone that doesn't have one.
Nor do I want to hear about evolution from someone that hasn't evolved.

I know that is most likely a sig but I also thought it was interesting when applied to this thought. If humans do evovle or if a evovlution does happen would that then allow God like thought or a God to be born? Would a evovled human be seen as a God because they have ability's that many don't? I hope nobody minds my questions. I'm not trying to insert a view of a God, but I love questioning things. It is out of respect to others that I do question and if anyone is bothered please let me know. I just wanted to see what people here would think of these type of questions relating to different ability's and the creation of ability's beyond our own understanding.

**Kastro187420** · 12-17-2005 08:19 AM

Originally posted by AHiddenSaint
Could a Human be a God

Sure they can, just look at my user title...

**Leo Volont** · 12-17-2005 08:21 AM

Originally posted by AHiddenSaint
Ok I know this question is going to sound strange, but I have always wondered if a Human could be a God? Lets put this into context say a person knew they might not be a normal person because of events that happen in their lives. Say that person had the ability to save this world, but decided not to use it? What if our very nature as humans made a person born of God live in fear of their own power? What if that person only wished to observe humanity and not control it? Would being a born as a human make a person related to a God understand our own lives better? What if God created humanity in order to free his ownself from boredom? Just thought they were some interesting questions. I love to think beyond normal logic and explore deep thoughts.

Sure, as long as one is willing to flow a bit with the sematics.

The structure of Ancient Beliefs supposed that at a certain level the Heroic would transition over to becoming Immortal which was the only necessary attribute of the Gods. in such a model, when Hercules became Immortal, he essentially became like a God.

In all of the more recent Higher Religions we have what are called 'Saints' who possess the ability to perform Miracles. Well, Miracles are ordinarily attributed to God, so what does it make a person who by his very will can perform Miracles? In this context, Saints would seem to be very God-like. However, often the Saints themselves complicate this explantion by insisting that these powers that they demonstrate source from beyond themselves.

So, I suppose what we can actually aim for is not so much to become a God as to arrange to have some working relationship with the powers and agencies of Divinity.

Now, regarding the powers inherent in Sainthood. In all of the History of the various Saints, we have seen no huge global miracles. We've seen very influential miracles, but the actions which transpired were in themselves local events. So far no Saint has ever moved an entire mountain, or anything on a similarly large scale. Perhaps it is a case in which Human Miracles must be done on a Human Scale.

**Kastro187420** · 12-17-2005 08:26 AM

Originally posted by Leo Volont

So far no Saint has ever moved an entire mountain, or anything on a similarly large scale.

He may not have been a saint, but I did see someone make a Mountian Disappear (I forget his name), as well as a Rocket Ship...

**Leo Volont** · 12-17-2005 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Kastro187420

He may not have been a saint, but I did see someone make a Mountian Disappear (I forget his name), as well as a Rocket Ship...

Mountains are made to disappear by adjusting the view perspective of their audience or the camera, while the Mountain remains exactly where it had been before. And Rockets which are made to disappear are returned to their owners after the program is over, demonstrating that they were only cleverly moved aside momentarily.

So the largest Miraculous Events, as per scale, seem to be those in which the Miracle Worker had been able to effect the local weather -- stopping a violent rain storm, or calming a turbulent sea.

**Night Wolf** · 12-17-2005 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Leo Volont
The structure of Ancient Beliefs supposed that at a certain level the Heroic would transition over to becoming Immortal which was the only necessary attribute of the Gods. in such a model, when Hercules became Immortal, he essentially became like a God.

Wasn't Heracles the only Hero to attain Immortality?

Which particular mythologies are you referring to when you say "Ancient Beliefs" ?

**Barbizzle** · 12-17-2005 01:12 PM

You need look no further than me to answer your question. [/b]

The second I saw this topic I knew you were going to say this Kim

**kimpossible** · 12-17-2005 06:19 PM

So that means I'm almost as predictable as the gods in the various bibles. More evidence to my being god.

Incidentally, I've moved mountains on more than one occasion. But personally, I prefer to just order my crews move the mountains for me.

**Sortilegio** · 12-17-2005 06:47 PM

He may not have been a saint, but I did see someone make a Mountian Disappear (I forget his name), as well as a Rocket Ship...[/b]

lol, did anyone see the southpark episode with the david blaine tryng to make a religion, showing of his "miracles". I think that episode could go with that

Now not so much for global, but din't moises open a river in two to make way for all his followers? thats like moving a mountain, and if it happend I sure would of had wanted to see that

**kimpossible** · 12-17-2005 07:06 PM

Rivers aren't that tough. I'm working on my A1 license right now. Lots of people moving rivers and parting seas on a daily basis. Hell, even the morons in the Army Corps of Engineers can do it about 10% of the times they try...

**djaio** · 12-18-2005 05:56 PM

you are god. you are the creator and destroyer of it all. you are the center of the universe.

i thought that was obvious.

**CryoDragoon** · 12-21-2005 06:24 PM

http://2220.free.fr/Sons%20Blog.mp3

and a parody:
http://www.icychris.co.uk/mp3s/Joan%20Osbo...%20Cannibus.mp3

but anyways... i don't believe in god... nor in humanity... so: no

i just posted because of da songs

**Enigma13** · 12-22-2005 01:23 AM

That whole question went way over my head, but I do know this. Human's are very flawed, but through their flaws they are able to live on (at least for the time being, anyway.) Plus if a Human can't be God in real life, I think we all know where they can.

**Gus** · 12-27-2005 11:48 PM

Yes

**Gus** · 12-27-2005 11:49 PM

Yes, but not a god in the typical sense, a part of god more likely

a conscious tool of the universal consciousness

**AlternateReality** · 01-19-2006 02:39 AM

Wasn't Buddha a human? Well he's not supposed to be god but hes close.

**wombing** · 01-20-2006 10:26 PM

we all create our own universe through our perception of what is real. in that sense, we are all the Creator of everything we experience. our own god, so to speak.

so we are all gods.

if there were The God, it would have to be pure awareness, in my opinion. in which case, awareness cannot try to impose its will on others...

**AHiddenSaint** · 01-21-2006 04:37 AM

Originally posted by Asher

if there were The God, it would have to be pure awareness, in my opinion. in which case, awareness cannot try to impose its will on others...

I don't think our world is ready for the truth about pure awareness even if there had been someone born with it. The problem with someone who might believe they are part of a God is others would call them crazy. In a sense this is a safe guard from false prophets which is a good thing. One might think it is bad, but there are some good reasons why fear is needed. If there wasn't fear then we would do stupid things. Yes fear can be miss used by those who fear their own life, but without fear what would stop a person from trying to fly? Yes in a dream we can take off from a build and just fly like a wind, but in reality we would fall to our own death. Don't think of fear as a restriction, but more a safety measure to help humans grow. In some way we need challenges to help ourselves grow.

**danbarber** · 01-21-2006 08:52 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

Do you think this could mean that who ever the one existing person is is God? Yet they don't know it because of the illusion?