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      Five Reasons Why You Are Probably Going to Hell

      This week I have mostly been thinking about Distressing Near Death Experiences.

      Most people say that experiences of Hell or nothingness is rare in NDEs. The results seem to go with this. I have heard that anything from 1%-20% of NDEs are unpleasant. But I think its much higher for these reasons:

      1. People don't want to know that the afterlife might be unpleasant.

      2. Researchers in religious experience have a tendency to be partisan. Even great thinkers in the field like Alister Hardy seem to have doubted that any experiences of evil are valid. Thus, negative religious experiences may be overlooked.

      3. People often don't tell people about their NDE due to a fear that they'll be thought of as crazy. I would say that people may be more scared to say they saw demons and torture than that they saw a being of light and dead relatives.

      4. People are less likely to report Hellish experiences, as bad people go to hell and the experiencer might not want people thinking badly of them.

      5. People are more likely to repress negative experiences.

      For these reasons, I think that there is a high probability that when you die you will have one of the most horrible experiences you can imagine. You will also be utterly alone and miserable. This may be a hallucination, or it may be real. Either way, enjoy it.

      Oh, and these experiences happen to people irrespective of culture or religion. I've heard accounts that prayer to one deity or other can help. Probably because it bolsters your belief. On the other hand, committing suicide heightens the likelihood of a negative NDE.
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      Which is why you want to die by splattering your brain all over the place. Don't give dem neurons any chance to fire chaotic nonsense in your last seconds. Avoid suffocation, fire and drowning.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Serkat View Post
      Which is why you want to die by splattering your brain all over the place. Don't give dem neurons any chance to fire chaotic nonsense in your last seconds. Avoid suffocation, fire and drowning.
      lol, too right.
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      I recommend black holes. That way even if there is an afterlife, it probably can't get at you. Nothing can get in a fucking black hole.

      Without the technology to do that, yeah. Decapitation may be best.
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      Quote Originally Posted by apachama View Post
      I recommend black holes. That way even if there is an afterlife, it probably can't get at you. Nothing can get in a fucking black hole.

      Without the technology to do that, yeah. Decapitation may be best.
      Decapitation? Your head gets severed, but your brain remains alive for a few seconds afterwards. You need to get for the brain, mofo! Scramble that grey matter good!
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      Actually, your brain can remain active for up to seven minutes after decapitation.

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      tbh it's pretty simply. Open your mouth, stick your shotgun in it, make sure the barrel is pointed at the roof of your stuff at a steep angle and pull the trigger. Now you have successfully painted your walls with your brain, no NDE shit to freak you out.
      Lugggs and cuddles and hugs for all!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by apachama View Post
      I recommend black holes. That way even if there is an afterlife, it probably can't get at you. Nothing can get in a fucking black hole.
      It is very easy to get in a black hole if you can get to it. You just can't get out. A black hole is just a collapsed star. The matter is so concentrated to such a small piece of matter it has gravity so strong not even light can escape it.

      NDE's are what people go through between heart death and brain death. What happens in that time is worthless for measuring what happens after brain death. The idea that people get terrorized and tortured after they die makes no sense.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      It is very easy to get in a black hole if you can get to it. You just can't get out. A black hole is just a collapsed star. The matter is so concentrated to such a small piece of matter it has gravity so strong not even light can escape it.

      NDE's are what people go through between heart death and brain death. What happens in that time is worthless for measuring what happens after brain death. The idea that people get terrorized and tortured after they die makes no sense.
      Agreed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      NDE's are what people go through between heart death and brain death. What happens in that time is worthless for measuring what happens after brain death. The idea that people get terrorized and tortured after they die makes no sense.
      I'm not sure.

      Many NDEs that include OBEs have granted people very specific information about their surgery or surroundings. This even happens under circumstances where it would be impossible for the subject to get information.

      The tunnel seen by many people fits nicely with the materialist explanation. However, meetings with ancestors or OBEs seem to give evidence that is sometimes unlikely.

      Obviously, this doesn't proove that NDEs have any reality to them, or that the explanation given to them is the right one. But it is interesting. It allows for space to believe in a life after death, albeit (as I said) a possibly horrible one.
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      Quote Originally Posted by apachama View Post
      Many NDEs that include OBEs have granted people very specific information about their surgery or surroundings. This even happens under circumstances where it would be impossible for the subject to get information.
      Psychic ability, if anything.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by apachama View Post
      I recommend black holes.
      We might all get lucky in 18 days or so.

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