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      Please explain why

      If god exists, then why does he do nothing to help all the unfortunate people in the world? God is suppose to be omnipotent and omniscience, so why doesn't he just conjure up whatever people need, or at least give them some food instead of his current miracles, a.k.a having jesus' face appear on a sandwich. and don't say god works in mysterious ways.

      another thing that has been bugging me is. why is hell a bad place? i mean Satan wants people to follow him right? so why do they suffer for doing so?

      I also wonder what's the point of praying. i mean god knows everything so wouldn't it be sufficient just to think about god?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofan1 View Post
      If god exists, then why does he do nothing to help all the unfortunate people in the world? God is suppose to be omnipotent and omniscience, so why doesn't he just conjure up whatever people need, or at least give them some food instead of his current miracles, a.k.a having jesus' face appear on a sandwich. and don't say god works in mysterious ways.
      I don't know about your other questions, but unfortunately... I have asked similar questions to my very Christian friend, and her answer was, "I may not know God's plan, but I know that he has a plan for all of us." There really was no point in continuing the conversation.

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      Free will

      NEXT !!
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      (='.'=)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      Free will

      NEXT !!
      Yah, but natural evil.

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      "Christian apologetics"

      or

      "Find that quote!"

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      Free will
      but if god is all knowing then how can there be free will as (s)he already knows what we're going to do.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      Free will

      NEXT !!
      How is that supposed to be an answer to that question? You mean the starving babies' free will should save them, not god?

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      merely trying to save time

      when this thread is 14 pages long,
      after veering off on several unrelated tangents,
      3 people vowing never to return to the forum cause of all the god bashing,
      everyone else has got bored
      and there's only 1 atheist and 1 christian left, endlessly slugging it out waiting for the other one to give up, so he can declare himself the winner

      after all that
      I bet you £10, the answer touted is "free will"

      So, I say again

      NEXT !!
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      Maybe it's funnier on the other side.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      I bet you £10, the answer touted is "free will"
      OK, you're on!

      (Is that a lot of money?)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofan1 View Post
      If god exists, then why does he do nothing to help all the unfortunate people in the world? God is suppose to be omnipotent and omniscience, so why doesn't he just conjure up whatever people need, or at least give them some food instead of his current miracles, a.k.a having jesus' face appear on a sandwich. and don't say god works in mysterious ways.

      another thing that has been bugging me is. why is hell a bad place? i mean Satan wants people to follow him right? so why do they suffer for doing so?

      I also wonder what's the point of praying. i mean god knows everything so wouldn't it be sufficient just to think about god?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      I bet you £10, the answer touted is "free will"

      When I win, I want one of those L10's with Darwin's face on it.

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      Answer to the first question: because god DOESN'T care!
      2nd Question: because it's fun to burn people.
      3rd Question: because if it were that easy everyone would do it, and the volume of prayers would piss him off.
      Let BS rule!!!

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      God is testing you. He wants you to believe in him NO MATTER WHAT.

      He even wants you to believe in him if he doesn't exist! Now that's hardcore faith you can sink your teeth into!
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      yeah it is a test of your faith, just like the fossils we has laid down, the geological, chemical, astronomical evidence that the Earth is more then 6000 years old. that's all false, it's to see whether we stand strong with God, rather then believe the lies he places for us, like pitfalls in a road we must avoid them.

      Also for suffering we all have original sin so we are punished for Adam and Eve's disobedience of God when they ate the forbidden fruit. This is why children in Africa are starving, it is punishment for sin.

      For hell being painful, this is a punishment for not following Christianity. Jesus says he is the only way into heaven, so unfortunately if one doesn't accept Jesus as their savior and the son of God, they will go to hell, this means Jews now go to hell as they refuse to accept Jesus as the light of the world. God says to us he is a jealous God, he is punishing us from turning away from him. What better punishment then never ending torture, your organs being ripped out of you by the creatures of hell over and over again, never ending suffering.

      As for praying Jesus said to us ask and you shall receive. So in praying to God he will help you to show his love for you. If hundreds pray for the same thing then maybe it draws his attention to it. You may say well if he needs people to tell him what problems need fixing, poverty, natural disaster etc, he is not Omnipotent/Omniscient. Well Gods nature is complex.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofan1 View Post
      If god exists, then why does he do nothing to help all the unfortunate people in the world?
      well the real answer is this....God does not exist. But I will play along after reading the bible God comes across as evil, smug, jealous and petty why should he care all he wants is for us to tell him how great he is.


      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofan1 View Post
      God is suppose to be omnipotent and omniscience, so why doesn't he just conjure up whatever people need, or at least give them some food instead of his current miracles, a.k.a having jesus' face appear on a sandwich. and don't say god works in mysterious ways.
      well the real answer is simply..because he doesnt exist and miracles are a small attempt to keep control and inspire "faith"

      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofan1 View Post
      another thing that has been bugging me is. why is hell a bad place? i mean Satan wants people to follow him right? so why do they suffer for doing so?
      well hell is Gods creation...I guess its another expression of his frankly nasty personality

      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofan1 View Post
      I also wonder what's the point of praying. i mean god knows everything so wouldn't it be sufficient just to think about god?
      There is no point, it has been proved not to be of any effect. I guess some would say it comforts them but really its just avoidance of dealing with ones problems
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      well the real answer is this....God does not exist.
      well i knew that. that's why i said "if god exists" to prevent this thread from becoming a "OMG! you atheists have no faith, lol" thread

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      "Mysterious ways", therefore banana.

      I've just reduced the problem to one that's already been solved

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      OK, you're on!
      What're you doing?!
      Quote Originally Posted by skysaw View Post
      God is testing you. He wants you to believe in him NO MATTER WHAT
      -- up to and including him fully convincing you that he does not and can not possibly exist.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pyrofan1 View Post
      "OMG! you atheists have no faith, lol"
      Hahaaa!!

      I vow (to God obviously) to visit the R/S forum more often. It is the source of endless amusement.

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      Welcome to the Dark Side! Hope you enjoy your stay! Here's your complimentary mint! ^__ ^

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      Why thank you! ^__ <

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      NO VOWING TO FALSE DEITIES DAMMIT!

      You must swear and place your vows to the FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER.

      Or the invisible pink unicorn.

      I mean, what's with all the clearly false deities getting all the attention?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark75 View Post
      What're you doing?!
      I figure I can make sure the thread doesn't end that way--then I am the winner!

      I saw one of those English Darwin $10 and I want one.

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      Well, you got lucky this time, but the odds were WAY against you.

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