That's all fine and good, but personally I think we should ignore the "benefits" of either and focus more on what's actually true and why. |
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Here is a video, made by an atheist, pointing out certain ways in which he thinks that the atheist life is better than the religious life. |
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That's all fine and good, but personally I think we should ignore the "benefits" of either and focus more on what's actually true and why. |
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Well, just look at Norway! |
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I mean, the factuality of the claims themselves "god exists"/"god does not exist" rather than arguing the hypothetical advantages of each in the event that they were true. |
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God clearly exists--we're talking about it right now. One has the option of viewing the universe through god-colored glasses, and this video examines the pragmatism of doing so. It makes the atheism vs. dogmatic Christianity case pretty well, I'd say, though that's no case for atheism unless you're a dogmatic Christian. And of course the benefits only apply if you're a well-adjusted atheist--I've known plenty who weren't. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
I think the creator of that video has a very narrow view of religion, and perhaps you do as well. The video is not representative of religious beliefs as a whole, and really only applies to a select few, mainly the Judeo-Christian religions. Not only that, it also presents a very idealistic view of atheism and is not necessarily the norm among those with atheistic beliefs. All in all, it is a very black and white depiction of the topics it tries to address. |
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The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
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Well, one would assume that the reason you posted the video was because you thought it had merit. I was merely pointing out that if you agree with what he had to say, perhaps you should broaden your perspective on the topics it addresses. |
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The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
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Both atheism and theism are extremes. Neither life style has the most advantages because both are restricting. The religious life style provides the disadvantages stated in the above video but the atheist mind frame also provides limitations to one's potential and wisdom. |
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You say that like restrictions are a bad thing. |
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^ Ahh, yes, true (to Merlock)! |
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They are...? |
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No one who is the least bit intellectually honest ever believes anything with 100% certainty. But the idea that you shouldn't accept something that you strongly believe to be true is nonsense. Atheism isn't a life style. What you said makes no sense. You don't lack belief in god because you decided to become an atheist, you become an atheist when you realize that you don't believe in god. Nothing here is "restricting" you. |
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But atheists don't "not believe" in God. No one forces anyone to believe in God or in any particular god -- it's not a given. Atheists deny the existence and possibility of a god (and typically of the mind, the spirit, everything beyond the physical and so on). |
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Blah, Merlock, atheists gather all of the data that we do know and conclude that the possibility of a god existing is very small. Hence they go their lives without fearing his wrath. What is the problem with this? |
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"Atheist" doesn't have to imply "extreme." |
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Right... Because they do not believe in those things... Like I said. I don't see the contradiction here. To not believe something is true is to believe it is untrue. The only other possibility is to not have a belief about its truthfulness. |
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The problem is that a god doesn't concern us, at all. If there is no evidence, then why mention it at all? Why search to disprove something that has no sway over us at all? |
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Last edited by Xox; 01-27-2008 at 07:22 AM.
So you're basically saying that if we truly don't care about the non existence of god, we shouldn't have to resort to labeling ourselves as atheists? I like what you are saying, but these labels are pretty necessary, I think, in a world where so many people are from one religion or another. It just makes conversation less confusing. |
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What's that you say? God is made up? Such words could only come from an atheist's mouth. Good question, though. Why should we be so affixed on a god that isn't real? Could it be that because the vast majority of the human race is convinced that it is real? Could it be that virtually every decision made by many of these people is due to what they think their god wants them to do? Yeah, you're right, I'm just being petty. |
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