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      The last supper - tell me

      Can someone tell me some details about the last Supper? Biblically speaking, not in reference to Da Vinci .

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      It was mint.




      It's what the whole eucharist is based on; in fact the eucharist is a re-enactment of the last supper; where Jesus first told his disciples that the bread is his flesh and the wine his blood etc; I'm sure you know the other gory details [Drink and you will have eternal life]

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      Well, oddly, they all sat on the same side of this very long table, instead of some people sitting each side. And they ate some sort of unidentifiable little brown lumps of food. Behind them, a strange geometric pattern of lines stretched out, as if to infinity, altho they were sitting inside a building.

      Oh wait, I may be thinking of the painting.

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      If you want to have a seirious look at things i would suggest this page.

      http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/eucharist.html


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      The one the ask/tell forum would have been used "correctly" (it is supposed to be asking/telling about people's expertise, not interests, technically), it is placed in the wrong forum

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      Quote Originally Posted by Riot Maker View Post
      If you want to have a seirious look at things i would suggest this page.

      http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/eucharist.html


      My post was serious, you bigot, you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      My post was serious, you bigot, you.

      Sorry, i should have said a more in-depth look at things. And i never said your post wasn't seirious you just jumped to that conclusion.


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      It was a Seder, a dinner to mark Passover, in remembrance of the Jews' exodus from Egypt. No one can be turned away from a Seder and a place is always set for the prophet Elijah, should he return. Christ was seen by his followers as fulfilling the prophecy of Elijah.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      It's what the whole eucharist is based on; in fact the eucharist is a re-enactment of the last supper; where Jesus first told his disciples that the bread is his flesh and the wine his blood etc; I'm sure you know the other gory details [Drink and you will have eternal life]
      What does it take to turn bread into Jesus's flesh and red wine into his blood? Like, could I do it? The next time a Christian asks me what I did last night, I want to be able to say, "I ate Jesus, but first I drank his blood."

      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      Well, oddly, they all sat on the same side of this very long table, instead of some people sitting each side.
      They did the same thing on I Love Lucy. It's all about audience perspective. Jesus was a very politically minded socialite. He beat Luke's ass for putting dinner forks where the salad forks were supposed to go.
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      http://net.bible.org/

      Mathew

      26:17 Now on the first day of the feast of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and said, “Where do you want us to prepare for you to eat the Passover?” 26:18 He said, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says, “My time is near. I will observe the Passover with my disciples at your house.”’” 26:19 So the disciples did as Jesus had instructed them, and they prepared the Passover. 26:20 When it was evening, he took his place at the table with the twelve. 26:21 And while they were eating he said, “I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me.” 26:22 They became greatly distressed and each one began to say to him, “Surely not I, Lord?” 26:23 He answered, “The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. 26:24 The Son of Man will go as it is written about him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had never been born.” 26:25 Then Judas, the one who would betray him, said, “Surely not I, Rabbi?” Jesus replied, “You have said it yourself.”

      The Lord’s Supper
      26:26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after giving thanks he broke it, gave it to his disciples, and said, “Take, eat, this is my body.” 26:27 And after taking the cup and giving thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, 26:28 for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, that is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 26:29 I tell you, from now on I will not drink of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.” 26:30 After singing a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.

      The Prediction of Peter’s Denial
      26:31 Then Jesus said to them, “This night you will all fall away because of me, for it is written:

      ‘I will strike the shepherd,

      and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’

      26:32 But after I am raised, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.” 26:33 Peter said to him, “If they all fall away because of you, I will never fall away!” 26:34 Jesus said to him, “I tell you the truth, on this night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.” 26:35 Peter said to him, “Even if I must die with you, I will never deny you.” And all the disciples said the same thing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wasup View Post
      The one the ask/tell forum would have been used "correctly" (it is supposed to be asking/telling about people's expertise, not interests, technically), it is placed in the wrong forum
      No. This is precisely what I wanted. The technicalities are not that hard to find.
      I want peoples own perspective and subjective views.

      Any information is helpful though. So thanks for both. I have my own ideas about the last supper. It is so widely known I am sure most people do. But like many things that are Biblically tied, how often is their meaning questioned.

      When I started to research "The Last Supper" a little deeper, I realized that the Davinci's Code had sparked so much interest and thought that some websites associated with this painting crashed. Isn't that kind pf sad? For a abrasive religious theme to make people think any different?

      The main reason if any one wonders or cares is that I have had some thoughts of my own on this painting and it's meaning for a long time. I began a drawing of this some time ago. I want to begin to work on it again. The composition is already there for the most part as I am not going to change much in the way of that. However my plans are to change the character's, character.
      I hope to eventually post this in the Artists' corner. I should have realized the hard task I would have in depicting the anatomy and gestures I would like to portray. I think that is the reason I quit working on it in the first place.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      Well, oddly, they all sat on the same side of this very long table, instead of some people sitting each side. And they ate some sort of unidentifiable little brown lumps of food. Behind them, a strange geometric pattern of lines stretched out, as if to infinity, altho they were sitting inside a building.

      Oh wait, I may be thinking of the painting.
      That was only according to DaVinci. Take a look at Dali's version, and you can clearly see that two people knelt on the other side of the table. And don't forget the giant floating torso that somehow got wedged in the rafters:

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post


      The main reason if any one wonders or cares is that I have had some thoughts of my own on this painting and it's meaning for a long time. I began a drawing of this some time ago. I want to begin to work on it again. The composition is already there for the most part as I am not going to change much in the way of that. However my plans are to change the character's, character. I hope to eventually post this in the Artists' corner. I should have realized the hard task I would have in depicting the anatomy and gestures I would like to portray. I think that is the reason I quit working on it in the first place.

      Wow thats awsome, im really looking forward to seeing how it is going to look.


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      The problem with trying to look at Davinci's painting for its biblical references is that it is most likely only depicting a biblical scene in the most superficial sense. I'm not a qook claiming that there are all sort of illuminati messages buried deeper though, only that he was not a religious man, and most of his religious painting were done in such a way that they were jokes that few people understood (because they focused on the superficial religious scene). There is a strong possibility that anything abnormal about the painting is meant to be a joke about a specific person that he knew involved with the church at the time, and nothing to do with Jesus at all. That's just a guess of course, but its something he has done before.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      The problem with trying to look at Davinci's painting for its biblical references is that it is most likely only depicting a biblical scene in the most superficial sense. I'm not a qook claiming that there are all sort of illuminati messages buried deeper though, only that he was not a religious man, and most of his religious painting were done in such a way that they were jokes that few people understood (because they focused on the superficial religious scene). There is a strong possibility that anything abnormal about the painting is meant to be a joke about a specific person that he knew involved with the church at the time, and nothing to do with Jesus at all. That's just a guess of course, but its something he has done before.
      That is a good point. Having been put under house arrest because his mind challenged the Churches suppression of knowledge would be good cause to not be to fond of the church. That does not mean he was not godly. Or has that been stated.
      So much of everything during those times can only be speculation. The painting itself can be similar to the Bible and be open for ten million and one interpretations.

      Hmmmm. Which Deciples do you suppose are in front of the table?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      http://net.bible.org/

      Mathew

      26:17 Now on the first day of the feast of Unleavened Bread the disciples came to Jesus and said, “Where do you want us to prepare for you to eat the Passover?” 26:18 He said, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says, “My time is near. I will observe the Passover with my disciples at your house.”’” 26:19 So the disciples did as Jesus had instructed them, and they prepared the Passover. 26:20 When it was evening, he took his place at the table with the twelve. 26:21 And while they were eating he said, “I tell you the truth, one of you will betray me.” 26:22 They became greatly distressed and each one began to say to him, “Surely not I, Lord?” 26:23 He answered, “The one who has dipped his hand into the bowl with me will betray me. 26:24 The Son of Man will go as it is written about him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would be better for him if he had never been born.” 26:25 Then Judas, the one who would betray him, said, “Surely not I, Rabbi?” Jesus replied, “You have said it yourself.”

      The Lord’s Supper
      26:26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after giving thanks he broke it, gave it to his disciples, and said, “Take, eat, this is my body.” 26:27 And after taking the cup and giving thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you, 26:28 for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, that is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 26:29 I tell you, from now on I will not drink of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.” 26:30 After singing a hymn, they went out to the Mount of Olives.

      The Prediction of Peter’s Denial
      26:31 Then Jesus said to them, “This night you will all fall away because of me, for it is written:

      ‘I will strike the shepherd,

      and the sheep of the flock will be scattered.’

      26:32 But after I am raised, I will go ahead of you into Galilee.” 26:33 Peter said to him, “If they all fall away because of you, I will never fall away!” 26:34 Jesus said to him, “I tell you the truth, on this night, before the rooster crows, you will deny me three times.” 26:35 Peter said to him, “Even if I must die with you, I will never deny you.” And all the disciples said the same thing.
      Thanks again for this info.
      Did you add that link. I did not see this before.

      Do we know who each disciple at the table is?

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      Dude.. StephenT

      thanks so much!

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      Anytime.

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