HolyGrail LD Project

[ChrisDeemian]

Hello everyone, A few days ago I started this thread where I asked the question weather it is possible to enter an LD outside of a REM phase (aka NREM). This would mean that it could be possible to go to sleep at night and directly start a LD, and utilise all night for riding dragons moving mountains and playing god... Apparenntly it is possible to enter a dream from NREM, however there is a possibility that they are less vivid or more difficult to remember... But well, if it's not vivid enough, we will make it right? As of this moment I am starting Project HolyGrail LD, I would like anyone who feels attracted to this idea to try it for lets say a minimum of a week and share experiences and hopefully create a universal technique that will benefit the LD community. Anyone who would like to join, please mention your name in this thread and report your findings as often as possible. Lets find that Holy Grail - Chris

[Native Dreamer]

I would love to join but i've never had an full ld. if this topic still exists when I have my first count me in.

[ChrisDeemian]

I would love to join but i've never had an full ld. if this topic still exists when I have my first count me in. All level feedback is greatly appreciated. I suggest that you start by stimulating an SP like condition (just lie totally stil for like 15 minutes when you go to sleep) and try visualising a dream scene, don;t force it too much. When you got something tangible try to participate in the scene and see what happens... - Chris

[Illusi0n]

Hum sounds good, count with me! Currently I'm training my WILD ability so this conjugates perfectly with my train. Still in mind isn't a easy thing, although i think it's not impossible! I have some WILD experience, i usually WILD at middle of the night or naps after lunch, I'm used to sleep paralysis. I suggest doing some serious research about REM and NREM cycles, REM rebound, sensory deprivation, meditation, dream yoga (yoga nidra), astral projection techniques (even you don't believe don't forget that still to be good techniques to inducting WILD)...I think these are the keys to the success!

[Shift]

Sounds like you're talking about http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=68720 Either way: Research Forum

[Quigin]

I'll try this! Count me in.

[inyourdreams]

I notice you are a traceur, native dreamer. Are you a member of PKCali, because I was introduced to lucid dreaming from someone on that site.

[Native Dreamer]

I notice you are a traceur, native dreamer. Are you a member of PKCali, because I was introduced to lucid dreaming from someone on that site. Indeed I am; 4 years. I'm afraid I am not apart of The Californian Parkour community. I reside in Washington State I mostly solo training and give occasional lessons. I have an American Parkour Account if you have one too maybe I mentioned it there, but otherwise no man. If you want to talk parkour, tricking, or anything else feel free to take this conversation to PM anytime. -Native Dreamer-

[detroitLions1970]

I'm skeptical, but count me in. I have plenty of time on my hands, and a willingness to learn whatever is required to attempt this (meditation, hypnosis...). You can find my MSN / Email in my profile.