Thread: God told me to be an Atheist.

Originally Posted by Sandform

As I said, it is pointless to talk about Gods that no one else is talking about. The moment someone says "my god is vishnu" or some other nonsense, I'm sure people will talk about that God. There is no need to shout to the wind. Why tell people who don't believe in something that that something is false? Lets say there is the bogeyman and Santa Claus as two ideologies. 80% believes in the bogeyman while 16 % don't care and maybe 4 % of the population believes in Santa Claus. Obviously the bogeyman would be talked about more, and since it is talked about more there would be more opportunity for people to argue against it. Do you know about Chayba? He talks the same nonsense you are saying, he says things like God is everything etc. People often call him out on his bull.

As I said earlier, aside from a metaphor, calling everything God is meaningless.

God being everything is ridiculous.

Then what's the point in making a thread bashing the Christian God when the original poster's thread may only be looked at by Hindus? For all the people know on this website, everyone here is a Hindu. There's no need to be bashing the Christian sky-pops then. :]

I just find it weird to always bash the Christian God, it's like that's the only God they think exists, or the only God they think they can refute.

Some people actually believe God is everything. It's not a one-person belief.

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

Then what's the point in making a thread bashing the Christian God when the original poster's thread may only be looked at by Hindus? For all the people know on this website, everyone here is a Hindu. There's no need to be bashing the Christian sky-pops then. :]

I just find it weird to always bash the Christian God, it's like that's the only God they think exists, or the only God they think they can refute.

Some people actually believe God is everything. It's not a one-person belief.

There have been various user made polls on this forum that would differ with this "everyone here is a Hindu" nonsense. Not that it matters. Most people here are surrounded by christianity, muslims, mormons, jews, and all the other pointless religious faiths originated by the Jews all the time. God forbid they go to a forum and let off a little steam about the religion most prevalent in their section of the world.

I already said that God is everything is a pointless and moronic ideology when used as anything other than a metaphor. It doesn't matter how many people claim this. Saying God is everything is as meaningless as saying God is a tree stump and only a tree stump, nothing more. "God is everything" means nothing. It is a pointless statement. The sentence "God is everything" has no value. "Eeep is everything." Does that mean anything to you? How about explaining the point of calling everything God, and why everything should be called God, as well as why calling everything God is necessary and why calling everything God is any more significant than calling everything everything.

Originally Posted by Sandform

There have been various user made polls on this forum that would differ with this "everyone here is a Hindu" nonsense. Not that it matters. Most people here are surrounded by christianity, muslims, mormons, jews, and all the other pointless religious faiths originated by the Jews all the time. God forbid they go to a forum and let off a little steam about the religion most prevalent in their section of the world.

I already said that God is everything is a pointless and moronic ideology when used as anything other than a metaphor. It doesn't matter how many people claim this. Saying God is everything is as meaningless as saying God is a tree stump and only a tree stump, nothing more. "God is everything" means nothing. It is a pointless statement. The sentence "God is everything" has no value. "Eeep is everything." Does that mean anything to you? How about explaining the point of calling everything God, and why everything should be called God, as well as why calling everything God is necessary and why calling everything God is any more significant than calling everything everything.

Is it as pointless and moronic as a person saying one person made everything in the world? You should think so by that logic. :]

No, it means nothing to me. I don't believe God is anything.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Well that is cool, you have every right to speak to them if they come to you, Space, but just remember to have proper netiquette. In the normal world proper etiquette would be not to enter a church(or organization like it) or any other building ...

ETIQUETTE

et⋅i⋅quette   /ˈɛtɪkɪt, -ˌkɛt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [et-i-kit, -ket] Show IPA
–noun 1. conventional requirements as to social behavior; proprieties of conduct as established in any class or community or for any occasion.
2. a prescribed or accepted code of usage in matters of ceremony, as at a court or in official or other formal observances.
3. the code of ethical behavior regarding professional practice or action among the members of a profession in their dealings with each other: medical etiquette.

YOU ARE SO 2000andLATE

SINCE YOU'RE ALL ABOUT TELLIN SOMEONE WHAT TO DO...TRY SOMETHIN NEW

Originally Posted by love2dream

ETIQUETTE

et⋅i⋅quette   /ˈɛtɪkɪt, -ˌkɛt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [et-i-kit, -ket] Show IPA
–noun 1. conventional requirements as to social behavior; proprieties of conduct as established in any class or community or for any occasion.
2. a prescribed or accepted code of usage in matters of ceremony, as at a court or in official or other formal observances.
3. the code of ethical behavior regarding professional practice or action among the members of a profession in their dealings with each other: medical etiquette.

YOU ARE SO 2000andLATE

SINCE YOU'RE ALL ABOUT TELLIN SOMEONE WHAT TO DO...TRY SOMETHIN NEW

Haha what

? Lol I've got something new for you to do love2. Make sense.

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

Is it as pointless and moronic as a person saying one person made everything in the world? You should think so by that logic. :]

No, it means nothing to me. I don't believe God is anything.

I would say it is more pointless than option magic man, but less moronic. While option magic man is more moronic but less pointless.

But I assume you mean I should argue against it as much as, or more than, I should argue against magic man. You're wrong if that is what you mean. The more prevalent belief is going to be argued against more than the less prevalent one. That doesn't mean that we don't argue against the less prevalent one, it just means that we argue against it fewer times because there is no reason to argue that Santa Claus isn't real when most people believe in the bogeyman rather than Santa.

[QUOTE=Sandform;1064346]? Lol I've got something new for you to do love2. Make sense. [QUOTE]

LOL! I DO. For you my friend, keep trying!

[QUOTE=love2dream;1064429][QUOTE=Sandform;1064346]? Lol I've got something new for you to do love2. Make sense.

LOL! I DO. For you my friend, keep trying!

I sense RAGE!

Originally Posted by nitsuJ

Some people actually believe God is everything. It's not a one-person belief.

It's called Pantheism (there is also panantheism which is slightly different), and for a long time that is the label I applied to myself.
It's a good term. However, It does beg one question...
We already have a perfectly good terms for "the universe" and "everything", so why bring the word God into it?
and by applying the label "God" to it, you actually start to confuse people, because the vast majority assume the definition of God to be similar to that of the Abrahamic religions.

The Abrahamic religions are normally easier to be directly critical of because they make very specific, and clearly wrong statements about reality. Of course, if say, the bible, is supposed to be Gods word, and something in it is wrong... Such as it saying the world is flat (which it does in places).. well a chain is only as strong as its weakest link. It invites intelligent criticism because mostly because it is so insideous and invasive in the world.

As for the more passive, philisophical religions, I have no issue with them at all as an Atheist. As long as they don't start making silly anti-scientific claims about the universe.. or moraly questionable dogmatic social requests. It's all good.

I don't even use the term Athiest unless i have to.
Most people are 99% Atheist anyway (you dont believe in all the Gods of religions other than your own... so you are an Atheist to them!)
the 1% left over is your choice of God.
Really Atheists just take that one step further.

But when it comes down to it, I dont really care a great deal about what people believe AS LONG as it isn't trying to suppress intelligence or scientific thought.
So claims of ANY religion, or even non religios people who make silly claims (like the flat earth society), that contradict intelligent thought, science, or open minded investigation - deserve to be discredited and challenged.

If i see someone trying to spread disinformation, or blatant nonsense, it angers me. As someone who has spent a lot of his life looking for answers in the world... I've wasted a LOT of time chasing rainbows, and investigating nonsense... because people keep spreading this stuff out there!
It's my duty to other "younger versions of me" out there... to try and help stop them falling into the same nonsense-traps i fell into.
You can waste such a HUGE amount of time investigating nonsense like Astral Travelling... only to eventually conclude its nonsense. Then you realise you could have invested that time in something truely AWESOME such as astrophysics or the study of neurochemistry and the mind.

Life is short... nonsense wastes time... religion, superstition and new-ageism are nonsense... someone has to stand up to this stuff!

So why am I an Atheist?
because I care about the pursuit of knowledge, and think that those younger than me deserve to not be led astray wasting there time chasing pipe-dreams. I just wish i'd realised myself sooner before wasting loads of my life studying things like the Tarot, astral travelling, mysticism etc.

Originally Posted by love2dream

ETIQUETTE

et⋅i⋅quette   /ˈɛtɪkɪt, -ˌkɛt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [et-i-kit, -ket] Show IPA
–noun 1. conventional requirements as to social behavior; proprieties of conduct as established in any class or community or for any occasion.
2. a prescribed or accepted code of usage in matters of ceremony, as at a court or in official or other formal observances.
3. the code of ethical behavior regarding professional practice or action among the members of a profession in their dealings with each other: medical etiquette.

YOU ARE SO 2000andLATE

SINCE YOU'RE ALL ABOUT TELLIN SOMEONE WHAT TO DO...TRY SOMETHIN NEW

Originally Posted by spaceexplorer

But when it comes down to it, I dont really care a great deal about what people believe AS LONG as it isn't trying to suppress intelligence or scientific thought.
So claims of ANY religion, or even non religios people who make silly claims (like the flat earth society), that contradict intelligent thought, science, or open minded investigation - deserve to be discredited and challenged.

If i see someone trying to spread disinformation, or blatant nonsense, it angers me. As someone who has spent a lot of his life looking for answers in the world... I've wasted a LOT of time chasing rainbows, and investigating nonsense... because people keep spreading this stuff out there!
It's my duty to other "younger versions of me" out there... to try and help stop them falling into the same nonsense-traps i fell into.
You can waste such a HUGE amount of time investigating nonsense like Astral Travelling... only to eventually conclude its nonsense. Then you realise you could have invested that time in something truely AWESOME such as astrophysics or the study of neurochemistry and the mind.

Life is short... nonsense wastes time... religion, superstition and new-ageism are nonsense... someone has to stand up to this stuff!

So why am I an Atheist?
because I care about the pursuit of knowledge, and think that those younger than me deserve to not be led astray wasting there time chasing pipe-dreams. I just wish i'd realised myself sooner before wasting loads of my life studying things like the Tarot, astral travelling, mysticism etc.

I couldn't agree more with this and I for one will never stop debunking the BS that is religion in order to protect future generations of children from being LIED TO the way I was.

break free from the chains of society and expectations of others

Originally Posted by love2dream

break free from the chains of society and expectations of others

Yeah I have now! But I shouldn't have to at all. The point is, it's all very well and dandy for religious people to believe in their mumbo jumbo but once they spout their BS to children as fact that's when it becomes CHILD ABUSE!

Originally Posted by suttsman

No nuts?

I think all of you should convert to Pastafarianism, obviously the one true faith.

link: www.venganza.org

Originally Posted by Vanota

I think all of you should convert to Pastafarianism, obviously the one true faith.

link: www.venganza.org

A follower of the one and only true faith, I see.
Welcome, I have not had the chance to properly introduce myself. I am Tortellini562, registered member of the FSM clergy, and a pastor of all that is saucey.
Please feel welcome to stay as long as you please. you are under our protection now.

Originally Posted by no-name

A follower of the one and only true faith, I see.
Welcome, I have not had the chance to properly introduce myself. I am Tortellini562, registered member of the FSM clergy, and a pastor of all that is saucey.
Please feel welcome to stay as long as you please. you are under our protection now.

Thank you, His Oodliness, for showing me this most esteemed and reverent of your humble servants. Your noodly appendage has touched me today.

Ramen.