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Originally Posted by MSG
Please don't waste all our precious oil on economical cars
buy a 4 ton behemoth that runs out of petrol 'soon as you start the engine
Please
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:? :?Quote:
Originally Posted by MSG
Please don't waste all our precious oil on economical cars
buy a 4 ton behemoth that runs out of petrol 'soon as you start the engine
Please
Please don't contribute to global warming by releasing heat from your anger that you will get by putting yourself through the misery that is setting up Linux and getting it to work properly with what little programs are actually offered for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Ynot
Please
http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...howtopic=41246
I rest my case :wink:
Haha, it's sad, but true. Ubuntu, despite being free and open source, is more user friendly and easy to use than XP in my experience.
Anyway, to teh compy:
Name: Kicksey-Winsey (Anybody who gets that reference is automatically my best friend.)
OS: Dual Booting between Windows XP Home Edition and Ubuntu Linux 6.06
GPU: Intel Integrated 82845 G, 64 MB
RAM:512 MB
HD:80GB, 50 in NTFS for XP, ~30 in Ext3 for Linux, plus a 250GB external with my music and other files on it that I share between both.
Processor:Intel Celeron 2.9 Ghz
Keyboard:Compaq somethingorother. Dunno, but the keys are all thin and funky. I like it.
Mouse:Some no-name wireless optical thingamajig.. Got it bundled with a wireless keyboard for $15. Stopped using the keyboard 'cuz it's keys got stuck sometimes. Mouse works okay, but it bugs me sometimes.
Monitor: Compaq FS7600. 19". Bulky. Good picture quality and refresh rate, though. Still want something thinner.
and it's assumtions like this that I think is the current problem with linux adoptionQuote:
Originally Posted by Tsen
It's because it's open source (and, as such, as a blossoming community of developers and testers) that it is more user-friendly
developers develop the OS
testers test it
feedback is fed back
developers develop the OS
.....
..
there does seem to be a general feeling (and I've seen this with my own eyes with SWAT)
that open source does scare people off
they see it as a DIY, hodge-potch solution
where in fact
it's often the complete reverse
anyway, I'm getting bow-legged on my high horse
so I'll leave it there
That's what I thought when I read Tsen's post. Because it's open source and free, it tends to be more user friendly. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ynot
Also, shall we keep the Linux vs Windows debate somewhere else?
Linux in the nerd world is okay, and when somebody who is experienced in computing says that they're using Linux, I don't necessarily have a problem with it. The part that I'm kinda confused about is why Linux is trying to make it's way onto the average user's desktop.
Server market = fishbowl
Desktop computer market = sidewalk
Linux is a fish on a leash. You're not a dog, get back in the bowl
You see what happen's with Linux, is that it will never be able to make it big until laws change. It's unable to work with the DRM and the copyright protection that companies have in place for their products. The open source nature is viral (and it depends on itself), so Linux would only work in a utopian world in which everybody shares and they all trust each other. As cool as that would be, that's not the kind of world we live in.
Why do I get so mad when people bring up linux? I don't know. It's probably because I feel betrayed. I was told many times that Linux is the way, all your computing problems will go away, blah blah blah, it's open it's free and it's just great ... and then I go to use it
Installation and general first usage is great, but the problem with Linux I found was that it was fine at first, but then when I want to do other things with it it starts to break and die. In terms of stability, I'd say Windows is far more stable than Linux (I'm not talking about uptime, I mean how easy it is to break).
And then when you do break it, help online is a bitch to find. The forumgoers ignore problems that aren't fun to solve (go open source!) and the IRC room basically said I was fucked when I got "Segmentation fault" every time I tried to run a program and suggested I reinstall (no, not reboot, reinstall.
I might give Linux another shot in a year or two, but as for right now, I'll wait until they've improved on it a lot more. In it's current state it seems like even the simplest of things means doing it in a much more complicated way than you would have to if you were using Windows.
Installing and maintaining a web server in Linux was great, though, I give it that.
Here's mine
Asus P5W HD Delux i975x chipset motherboard
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ 2.4Ghz
2GB (2 x 1024 DDR2 SDRAM)
ATI Radeon X1950XTX 512MB Graphics card
1.2TB Storage (Under 4 HDD)
WinXP MCE 2005 (Upgrading to Vista on launch)
My setup consists of 2x17 inch 8ms LCD screens, a logitech MX Revolution mouse and an Mx1000 mouse.
A G15 Keyboard, Logitech Z-680 speaker system 5.1 500 watt RMS / 1000 watt MAX.
You love that phrase don't you? I recall you saying it on IRC once or twice as well, haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSG
Anyway, I must admit, I've been using Linux on two dedicated servers I maintain now, and whilst I did have some problems with one, while managing the other no problems have arisen - And it's super easy to install packages and all too. I must hand it to Linux - Installing servers has never been so much fun.
Yeah exactly, when it comes to servers, Linux kicks ass.
My experience using Linux as an actual home computer, though, was not so kick ass.
THOUGHT OF THE DAY
Which one do you think most people who use open source or have open source peddled to them care about more:While the Free Software Foundation insists it's only the first one that open source actually is, the second one seems to come hand-in-hand a lot. But I wonder if Linux uptake would be as it is if they were making people pay for it?
- Free as in speech. "I can edit the program and contribute something to the open source model. This quite possibly requires me to know a programming language, have a lot of time on my hands to develop and also happen to be one of the (relatively few) people in the world who are able to code without making a mess of it."
- Free as in free beer. "I can get this for free? Yeehaw, adios Windows!"
Excellent thought of the day. :goodjob2: You're gonna make me use my brain on this one huh? lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaniaz
I choose:
- Free as in speech.
With less dependence on vendors and the availability of the source code and the right to modify it is extremely important. Also having the right to redistribute modifications and improvements to the code, and to reuse other open source code, permits all the advantages due to the modifiability of the software to be shared by large communities. One of my favorite implemtations is that there is no one with the power to restrict in a unilateral way how the software is used, even in a retroactive way with no single entity on which the future of the software depends.
My computers
Custom:
case:thermaltake tsunami
power: thermaltake 700W
Motherboard: Gigabyte 965P-DQ6 re2.0
CPU: Intel core 2 6600 2.4GHz
Graphics: BFG tech NVIDIA 8800 gts
sound: Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Fatal1ty
Storage: 500GB 3.0 GBs
RAM: 2GB g-skil
keyboard/mouse: logitech G15/ logitech G5
WIN XP pro
IBM thinkpad T41:
CPU: intel Pentium M 1.5 GHz
Motherboard: IBM 23734JU
Graphics: ATI mobility radeon 7500
Storage: 24 GB
Network: 10/100/1000
RAM: 512mb
HP media center PC m7077c:
CPU:intel pent 4 3.2 GHZ
Motherboard: ASUSTek Puffer 2
graphics:dual radeon x300/x550
Storage: 179 GB and 111GB
RAM: 1 gig
Network:Linksys WRT54GX4 uplinked to 3 MB/s cable modem
Various swiches
Spares:
HP pavilion 732c
Win XP pro
HP pavilion a465c (x2)
Win XP home
eMachine t2042 (x2)
Win XP home
Several spare monitors, cabling, ect.
Lots of manuals
Intel Pentium D dual core 2.8 GHZ processor
2 GB dual channel RAM
160 GB hard drive
Windows Vista
- Toaster
- dual bread slots
- 5 darkness settings
- power cord
Media Centre
2.4 GHz Pentium 4
1 Gb Ram
Win XP Prof.
200 Gb System Disk
3 Tb Raid array
Personal Machine
2.8 GHz dual core
4 Gb Ram
Win XP Prof. / Debian Linux
Various hardware cast-offs from media centre
that's usually caused by a badly written program.Quote:
when I got "Segmentation fault" every time I tried to run a program
It's true, you have a pointer referencing something that it shouldn't be. There are a number of things that might be going wrong. You accidentally store a long in your pointer. You store your pointer in an int instead of ptr or long. Or you have an iterator that doesn't check for the null terminator. You are using an out-of-date compiler on a modern machine (32 bit on 64 bit.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrofan1
My computers:
Acer Laptop
Pentium 4 Processor
Ubuntu 7.04
512 MB RAM
60GB Hard Drive
Apple iBook
Power PC G4 Processor
Tiger 10.4.9
1GB RAM
40GB Hard Drive
Getting an Apple TV soon too :-)
Core2DUO E2160 @ 2.62ghz
2gigs of RAM
ATI X1800XT 256mb PCI-E Graphics Card
160gig SATA Hard Drive
80gig IDE Hard Drive
CD/DVD Lightscribe writer
Win XP Home
19" Widescreen Monitor
Not the best, but works for me :)
AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3200+ 2GHz
1023MB RAM
Windows Vista Home Premium
19" IT Works Monitor
ATI Radeon 9600 256 Graphics
2x120BG HDD
Comes with all the usual bells and whistles or Office 2007 pro DVD Burner etc :)