Thread: Windows Vista

Originally Posted by TweaK

Holy holy ! As I was typing this topic, I found an awesome feature. I can't describe it, so I'm just going to post a screenshot. [Click!]. What does this do? If you haven't guessed yet, you can just switch between windows quite easily this way. Click a button, see this window, and click a window to open it. Fuck yeah!
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That awesome freature is called Flip 3D It's only available on WinAEro, it's inaccessible on Starter and Home Basic. You can Stack the task bar buttons 3D the same way. By the way wtf is Kaniaz doing on 56K?

hahaha.... windows is starting to copy mac...... i find that amusing.

Now its gonna be like macs exept with more errors.

Originally Posted by Ne

That awesome freature is called Flip 3D It's only available on WinAEro, it's inaccessible on Starter and Home Basic. You can Stack the task bar buttons 3D the same way. By the way wtf is Kaniaz doing on 56K?
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Why exactly did you.. capitalise the E in WinAero? And yeah, I know, but Windows Vista will put Ultimate, Starter and Home on the same DVD if I'm correct, so it's all good. What Kaniaz is doing on 56k? The same reason he's a farmboy: He has to.

Originally Posted by Ne

hahaha.... windows is starting to copy mac...... i find that amusing.

Now its gonna be like macs exept with more errors.
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Ringdingding!
Oh snap Batman, what's that?
Don't worry Robin, it's just the Mac Fanboy alarm. Just ignore it, it's nothing serious!

Originally Posted by arby

hahaha.... windows is starting to copy mac...... i find that amusing.

Now its gonna be like macs exept with more errors.
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you said it!

My cousin keeps telling me how Microsoft keeps coming out with all thise "new" features that Mac had for several years.

Apparently, no-one pays any attention to just how bad microsoft is, because of bill gates markiting skills ... and as soon as I finished typing my book im going to put Unix on my machine. Or get my cousin to do it for me.

That awesome freature is called Flip 3D It's only available on WinAEro, it's inaccessible on Starter and Home Basic. You can Stack the task bar buttons 3D the same way. By the way wtf is Kaniaz doing on 56K?[/b]

Yes. People who use Starter/Home Basic are probably going to be "your grandma who just checks her e-mail" anyway. I'm on 56k because broadband isn't available where I am. Sorry, 'get-connected' brigade, but you are liars.

hahaha.... windows is starting to copy mac...... i find that amusing.

Now its gonna be like macs exept with more errors.[/b]

Don't tell me "pretty user interface" or "a sidebar" is some sort of exclusive Apple idea now? Such an innovative brainstorm may have come up before. As for "more errors", well, that's gonna need to be more specific.

My cousin keeps telling me how Microsoft keeps coming out with all thise "new" features that Mac had for several years.
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Who came up with a feature first has absolutely no actual value when you're deciding. I'm kind of more worried about whether or not it works well. Not if Apple (or Microsoft) beat the other to the punch. Not really. It does however tell you how competent the company is in pulling up releases and being agile about their development.

I could probably draw up a list where Macs have beaten Windows and Windows have beaten Macs. Does it really matter, though? A minor victory in one field doesn't often say a lot for the rest of the OS, although it's important to note Apple is a more agile company and Linux even moreso. They don't have all these corporate contracts and back compatability things to worry about. They don't have, in other words, huge reprecussions in the form of 90% of the desktop market share.

One small change to a dialog can upset thousands and thousands of people who just aren't capable of understanding change. For Apple that's not so much a problem as they have less users and Apple is really good with UI design. For Linux they don't even have a UI to play with half the time so that's okay. I think this is a major pitfall of Microsoft's, although they're trying to rectify that somewhat now.

bill gates markiting skills[/b]

...I don't think Bill Gates is quite known for his ability to market. In fact, Microsoft is well known for the ability to absolutely suck at marketing. Microsoft's idea of a catchy name is "Windows Presentation Foundation", whereas Mac will use a hipster name like "Cocoa". Let's not even talk about Linux here. But really.

Steve Jobs can shoot all kinds of beautiful presentations at you and make you want to have his babies. Bill Gates wears frumpy sweaters. I do kind of like frumpy sweaters but they wouldn't convince me to use bad software.

put Unix on my machine[/b]

If you have to get someone else to put Unix/Linux on your machine, it is probably not the solution for you as of yet. There is a time and place for Linux, just like there's a time and place for Windows. I'm not saying Windows beats *nix into the ground on every count or vice-versa.

Very nice sweet etc etc request: If you want to be all mac fanboy-ish-y-esque and flame Microsoft, get the fuck out of this thread and resist the urge to post in it. Thanks!

Edit And I just had to say this, but.. Guys, do you even realize that Mac JUST released the 2-button mouse? Windows has had that since.. There even was a mouse pointer! Oh fizzle snap. FIB-BOING.

Fanboys on both sides.

What a fun topic.

Fanboys on both sides.

What a fun topic.[/b]

See, I define a fanboy as someone who can't see both sides of a topic. I've seen the "I'm so good for being withdrawn and curiously neutral on the discussion" pattern before, though. Don't tell me you're so Zen! DON'T TELL ME THAT VARIOUS IT-RELATED TOPICS DON'T MAKE YOU MAD!

Okay. So maybe they don't.

Originally Posted by D

Fanboys on both sides.

What a fun topic.
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So, tell me how there is fanboyism on my side in this topic? Yeah, I've been going all omg vista roxor my boxor, but I've never said Mac is shit compared to it and how Mac stole 2 button mouses. Ok so maybe I have said that last, but still.

..Ok you got me.

Hehe, i'm no mac fanboy. I just used macs for a while one at a University helping people a reasearch project by being the tester.

I looked at pictures for vista and was like... "Holy hell, is that a mac or windows?" no, seriously, it looks like mac... Like, that thing where all the windows arrange so you can select one.... Thats like f10(or something) on macs. Then there were a couple more things that I saw that were other features from mac. One such thing is that control panel that has like time/day and weather and stuff. I think that was like f11 on the mac... It look almost exactly like it too. Exact same style.

So there =P i'm not being a fanboy because my arguments are well founded. Plus I hate the mac's single button mouse > It drove me nuts.

You may want to look at yourself and see if you're being a fanboy.

Plus I hate the mac's single button mouse > It drove me nuts.[/b]

I've never actually seen a single button mouse. I always thought the idea was weird. I mean, does anyone really use that in the wild? Has it never occured to them after all those years of single clicking that maybe two (if they can handle that many) would make everything more efficent and streamlined? Mice get more and more unecessary as time goes by to me. They need that extra button.

And that Mighty Mouse. Ugh. Some guy wrote about that once. "You have to lift your left finger up to right click, sure, but it's really good" - um, not exactly my idea of a fun time.

I looked at pictures for vista and was like... "Holy hell, is that a mac or windows?" no, seriously, it looks like mac...[/b]

I'm not entirely sure about that one. For a start, the colours are radically different. Macs are very bright compared to Vista which is slightly darker (in the taskbar). And speaking of the taskbar, it's at the bottom, and there's not an Apple logo in sight, and...well...where's the resembelance? Vista's more like Mac with the fluid desktop effects and all that.

Like, that thing where all the windows arrange so you can select one.... Thats like f10(or something) on macs.[/b]

Vista is - sadly - lacking in Exposé features. They have Flip 3D now, but I've used Exposé and really Vista's got nothing like it. +1 Mac there, it has to be said.

One such thing is that control panel that has like time/day and weather and stuff. I think that was like f11 on the mac... It look almost exactly like it too. Exact same style.[/b]

A sidebar? Um, Mac has a Dashboard, sure, but that's overlaid only when you press the Dashboard key. Vista on the other hand has a sidebar that won't go away* and is always at the side (as opposed to overlaying itself over the desktop). It really does look nothing like it. Sure it has gadgets and the idea is more or less the same, but the look is completely different.

* I mean it. It won't GO AWAY!

I just installed Vista RC2.

The only thing I have to say is...

When this thing gets released, Apple's screwed.

Originally Posted by MSG

I just installed Vista RC2.

The only thing I have to say is...

When this thing gets released, Apple's screwed.
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Lol.



I'm running RC2 also and am very happy with it. It runs smoothly and looks great.

I remember seeing a video about folding down corners of windows to see whats hiding under it, was this was taken out? Did this ever happen? I can't seem to find any info on it or how to do it. I think I might be going insane.

Originally Posted by Chatter

Lol.
I'm running RC2 also and am very happy with it. It runs smoothly and looks great.

I remember seeing a video about folding down corners of windows to see whats hiding under it, was this was taken out? Did this ever happen? I can't seem to find any info on it or how to do it. I think I might be going insane.
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Naw, that's XGL in linux.

I tried that once, it was amazingly butter smooth, especially on the crap computer I tried it on. When you moved a window it moved like jello, it had a mac expose thing with tiling problems, and you could switch between all four virtual desktops on a hueg cube, but in the end it just got annoying ( openGL didn't work inside of it too well ) and I got rid of it.

Sounds kinda cool, glad I'm not insane.

Post more screen shots!

Screenshots you say?

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My desktop (semi-default). Yeah, that's Kaniaz's blog in the RSS feed.

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The nice task switching thing ( I don't use it much though ).

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There is no max score, and it seems to change sometimes for some strange poltergeist reason.

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The new desktop image changer seems alot more user friendly

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Live search = amazing. No cumbersome mouse needed. Simply press the window key to bring up the start menu, and type the beginning of what you want... It'll list every match. Amazing! Now no more arguing about mice!

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ERROR: Everything's okay!

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10x more awesome then tiling 4 random pictures across an oversized folder icon (XP)

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Print screen crapped out on me so I tried the new "Snipping Tool", it captured a bit of the subtle but totally awesome window fade out shrinking transition.

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IE's lookin pretty sleek these days, watch out Firefox.

If you want anything specific, just tell me and I'll post moar.

Your screen shots looks good. I'm having a Vista moment right now.

If you're talking about a near-orgasm, I've nearly had these moments non-stop since I installed Vista.

hehe... you can find a list of "interesting features"... HERE

godammit i love that site. XD

MSG, KIND REQUEST.
Either link to the images, or don't post them at all. But you're fuxxing up my topic's layout D:

Originally Posted by TweaK

MSG, KIND REQUEST.
Either link to the images, or don't post them at all. But you're fuxxing up my topic's layout D:
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And your server, since that's where they're hosted.

sroory D:

fixed now

I'm pretty much more biased towards the apple side of things (a few notches less than a fanboy) but I have to say Vista is pretty impressive. I'm suprised their interface is as cool as it is, I thought it would be some sort of dumbed down aqua mess. Also, the translucent windows rule.

That's right, apple and the people working on KDE, work harder.

Lookin' good--I'm especially glad to see that they're finally enabling color changes on the taskbar beyond "bland blue" "vomit green" and "ugly, tarnished silver".

Anyway, my current computer is beyond hope, so I think I'm going to change it to a Linux box soon to try and drag out its life a few more years, then I'll build my own computer and get Vista on there.