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      I've been trying to find info on how Neural Networks are saposed to work, and so far have found ... nil.

      Help, please?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      I've been trying to find info on how Neural Networks are saposed to work, and so far have found ... nil.

      Help, please?
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      Are you speaking of our own brain Neural networks or machine intelligence?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howetzer View Post
      Are you speaking of our own brain Neural networks or machine intelligence?
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      both would be nice. Dont they work on similer principles?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Keeper View Post
      both would be nice. Dont they work on similer principles?
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      Well I guess you could say they are trying to work on the same principles.
      Our brain networking, firing neurons, chemicals, dendrites etc are all an elaborate communicating process that receives stores and processes information.
      that to is a similar process to the computer and the advancement of AI and "smart computers"/learning computers.
      They simulate how the brain functions in many ways. Similar enough it is a bit scary. But computers, as advanced as they have become, even the most powerful computers available today are minimal compared to the complexity, efficiency, and information processing capacity of the human brain.

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      yes, I remember reading that our brains have over 100 trillion conections, something computers have not even come close to approching.

      But how does the conection work? How does the brain store the data, and redirect impulses in a manner that couses thought?

      And how are we trying to copy it? What manner have we tryed to immatate them?
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      Artificial Neural Networks, as their name suggests, is based off of their biological equivalent in creatures

      in brief, you have to break all the functions of a system down into it's smallest component parts
      each part (called a node, or neuron) does one very specific task

      each node takes in a known type of input, does it's specific process, and outputs a known type of output

      these nodes are arranged in a web-type of structure
      with nodes that accept the same input (but output differently) on the same "level"

      any node that outputs what another node can accept as input, is connected to that node

      the goal of any neural network, is to find the best path from start to finish
      through as few nodes as possible

      when ever a successful travel is made from start to finish, the connections between the nodes is strengthened
      so the next time the system is given a similar input, it knows what path to try first
      this is the learning side of neural networks

      the human brain is a lot more complex, but the principle's the same
      A baby, when it starts walking, will pull itself up onto it's feet using a peice of furniture
      and attempt to walk
      it has many different muscles it can use, and it can use each muscle in several different ways.
      the goal is to find the best path between all the muscle controlling neurons in it's brain to enable it to walk successfully
      once it finds a path, the connections between the neurons will strengthen

      Neural networks are pattern finders
      you model a complex situation with a web of interconnected neurons
      and the system will seemingly understand the situation and come up with an "answer" (read "answer" how you like, it traverses the paths and reaches the end)

      Neural networking has stalled somewhat in recent years
      due to computing limitations
      and it's primarily used for pattern recognition

      ideally, the neurons themselves should be able to adapt themselves
      based on global criteria
      at the moment, neurons are static, and don't change

      A common joke is that for a neural network to function properly, you have to tell it the answer before hand

      probably the best known public use of neural networks was in the game Creatures
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatures_%28...life_program%29

      however, if you're interested
      there's a derivative of XML called AIML
      Artificial Intelligence Markup Language
      that's used in Bot programs, like the AliceBot
      http://www.alicebot.org/
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      "How do Neural Nets work?"

      They don't. HAW HAW!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kaniaz View Post
      "How do Neural Nets work?"

      They don't. HAW HAW!
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      hmm....

      "I don't know, but if you give me the answer, I can tell you how you got to that answer" may have been funnier

      or maybe not
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      Yeah probably. Hey, I don't work good under pressure. Besides, I am totally not insecure. If someone doesn't like it, hey, that's their problem.
















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