Thread: P2P program question...

I always wondered that too, but when mine got stuck connecting I'd normally just cancel and find another copy to DL

It means that Ares found a source for the file, but is unable to establish a connection to it. That user may have gone offline or turned off Ares. Ares holds on to the address of the source, hoping that it will come back on at some point. It may also be looking for alternative sources, but I'm not sure.

It means you need to get your butt off Limewire and get a torrent application.


www.utorrent.com has the best one available at the moment.
The Pirate Bay and Mininova are the two best places to find torrents. (Private sites are better, but harder to find and require membership).

Seriously, get rid of Ares, Limewire, Kazaa, eDonkey or whatever the heck else you're using--decentralized are better in virtually every way.

I'm using Ares. How are those better? I do like using torrents, but sometimes I find it more difficult to locate what I want.

I've heard that the people that deal with pirate'd music have put a few 'fake' downloads on the torrents things, to bust people who download them. Not only that, but I've dealt with torrents before and disliked the system. I'll be sticking with Ares.

Curious application, that Ares.
I went to download it and upon arriving at SourceForge and starting the download all of Firefox froze dead.

I don't even want to know what it'd do to my system if I were to actually launch the installer. >.<

(Yes, I'm aware the app itself can't cause that but since I can't find it in me to blame SourceForge...)

I used Ares with my PC before I switched over to Mac. Now I use FrostWire and its your typical LimeWire application. Hmph. I LOVED Ares, though! Good choice, Mes

I find that I'll use a P2P program just for one individual song. If I want a whole album then I'll look for torrents. I use this website http://torrents.to/ and you just plug in what you want and keep going through to the next website. Works like a charm!

Use Limewire, it does torrents too. It uses java though so the user interface is so slow.

To date, all RIAA lawsuits have been targeted at users of Limewire and especially Kazaa. Torrents downloaders have not been the recipients of any lawsuits to date.

Originally Posted by Tsen

To date, all RIAA lawsuits have been targeted at users of Limewire and especially Kazaa. Torrents downloaders have not been the recipients of any lawsuits to date.

Sweet! What about Ares?

Sooo where in the process of downloading things do people get caught, anyway? I'm confused on that whole process.

The uploads is where people are getting caught.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

The uploads is where people are getting caught.

So basically all you have to do is just move stuff out of your shared folder as soon as its downloaded... and you'll never get caught?

What if you downloaded a song by legal means and wanted to share it... that sort of activity is illegal too?

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

What if you downloaded a song by legal means and wanted to share it... that sort of activity is illegal too?

Of course - that's where the people get in trouble. It's copyrighted material, and if you share it with other people, those people aren't going to pay for it legally. And the music people don't like not getting paid... so they sue you.

Originally Posted by Webmaster

Of course - that's where the people get in trouble. It's copyrighted material, and if you share it with other people, those people aren't going to pay for it legally. And the music people don't like not getting paid... so they sue you.

Ahh I see, I guess that was a dumb question. Just funny how you don't get in trouble (as often anyway) for downloading music yourself.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Just funny how you don't get in trouble (as often anyway) for downloading music yourself.

It's more efficient for them to get rid of the uploaders - then the downloaders can't download.

Ares, Limewire, Kazaa etc... They suck, I can't stand their "user friendliness", μTorrent is way better, but if you are kinda new to computers and all that, you'll find it kinda difficult to use.

By the way, if you "move" the music out of the shared music, this prevents you from seeding the file, this is considered as a "hit-and-run", this is frowned upon in many sites and can easily get you banned on many registered torrent sites. The problem with uploading/seeding files is that it seems to be the way of getting tracked down by the authorities.

Originally Posted by Kraik

Ares, Limewire, Kazaa etc... They suck, I can't stand their "user friendliness", μTorrent is way better, but if you are kinda new to computers and all that, you'll find it kinda difficult to use.

Explain?

It isn't, really. uTorrent is pretty newb friendly while having all the nice, in depth features for experts too. Basically, download, install, period. You never really have to touch it again. Then when you find a torrent file, uTorrent automatically sets itself as the default program to open it, so just click the link, click okay, and you're downloading.

Anyway, you CAN just remove files from the shared file once you finish, but it's not considered polite. There IS a better way, but it's more complicated--get an IP filter. Basically, all the corporations in the world have designated IP addresses, so if you block them from connecting to you, they can never prove you downloaded or uploaded anything. Bluetack has a good, frequently updated filter, but I don't know if or how you could set up Ares to use it.

Originally Posted by Tsen

To date, all RIAA lawsuits have been targeted at users of Limewire and especially Kazaa. Torrents downloaders have not been the recipients of any lawsuits to date.

bittorrent transmissions are encrypted by default

(although I still see a good proportion of people who don't use it - for some god-only-knows reason)

no-one can snoop on encrypted BT traffic
the only thing they can "see", is the port it's going over

*edit*
"they" being ISP's

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Explain?

Don't feel like it.

Originally Posted by M-Cat

Don't feel like it.

The trouble you went to quoting her and typing that out could have been used to give a useful synopsis in answer to her question.

Originally Posted by Kraik

By the way, if you "move" the music out of the shared music, this prevents you from seeding the file, this is considered as a "hit-and-run", this is frowned upon in many sites and can easily get you banned on many registered torrent sites. The problem with uploading/seeding files is that it seems to be the way of getting tracked down by the authorities.

I am such a hit-and-runner. I'm the sissiest pirate ever.

I've only ever used Limewire - couldn't get on with Kazaa.
Might try Ares now though as it seems everybody likes it so much.

Originally Posted by Kraik

By the way, if you "move" the music out of the shared music, this prevents you from seeding the file, this is considered as a "hit-and-run", this is frowned upon in many sites and can easily get you banned on many registered torrent sites. The problem with uploading/seeding files is that it seems to be the way of getting tracked down by the authorities.

As far as I'm aware, not many torrent trackers have active policies against users with <1 sharing ratios. That's typically something done on private/special torrent tracker portals that require registration (not that registration is required for a tracker to track ratios, I imagine) in the community and whatnot, where the administration is interested in upholding wholesome sharing, offering benefits to those with high ratios and all such.

Where as with sharing programs such as Limewire, Kazaa, etc. it seems much easier to ban those that don't share anything. Not to mention that the users themselves typically have the attitude of "if you don't share, I'll block/ignore you".