Graphics Card

**Bayside** · 10-16-2008 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Marvo

Just order it.

I don't have a credit card.

**ninja9578** · 10-16-2008 06:01 AM

Ask a friend to order it for you and reimburse them with cash or check.

**Bayside** · 10-17-2008 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Ask a friend to order it for you and reimburse them with cash or check.

No one I know has a credit card. Hence, it makes this all very difficult for me.... Damn, I really need to get a credit card....

**cuddleyperson** · 10-17-2008 03:00 AM

well i personally have a HD4870 card but i heard the HD4850 is also really good, i just wanted to buy a whole computer that i'd hopefully not have to upgrade for a year or so ,two hopefully, playing the latest RTS games, which luckily aren't so graphically intense as games like Crysis.

Anyway it runs pretty hot but i have an Antec 900 gamer case which has quite a few fans and you can use a fan hack to change to fan speed on the graphics card, it's supposed to automatically increase but it doesn't they seem to be stuck on 21% speed, 40% is a little noiser but i really don't notice it when gaming and it makes it like 20c cooler.

**ninja9578** · 10-17-2008 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Bayside

No one I know has a credit card. Hence, it makes this all very difficult for me.... Damn, I really need to get a credit card....

Do Canadians not use credit cards or something? I don't know anyone who doesn't have one.

Oh well, you can easily get one from your bank or from any card company assuming you aren't below the poverty line or have shot credit. I can assume that you don't because you have the money for a graphics card

**Bayside** · 10-19-2008 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Do Canadians not use credit cards or something? I don't know anyone who doesn't have one.

Oh well, you can easily get one from your bank or from any card company assuming you aren't below the poverty line or have shot credit. I can assume that you don't because you have the money for a graphics card

I'm not sure if I qualify for a credit card yet, I'm only seventeen, I think you have to be eighteen to get one. I can't wait till I turn eighteen, then it's internet shopping galore for me.

**Bayside** · 10-20-2008 01:05 AM

I bought a 9800 GTX. I'm not sure how good it is yet, so I'm not going to open it until I'm sure it's good. It cost me 300 bucks.... Any opinions on this particular card?

**ClouD** · 10-20-2008 01:19 PM

You should have a 30 day window for defective possibility or something like that, so the sooner you get it installed the better.
Pop. It. In.

8D

**ninja9578** · 10-21-2008 01:07 AM

I'm confused by the chart? What does power consumption have to do with graphics power?

I'm not sure about DirectX, but OpenGL 3 (out soon) will split graphics pipelines between the graphics card and extra CPU cores.

**WhiteUnit** · 11-08-2008 07:51 AM

Your running an AMD proc. Whatever Vcard you get it needs to be an ATI, and Newegg.com is probably going to be your best resource for ordering it.

**Bayside** · 11-08-2008 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteUnit

Your running an AMD proc. Whatever Vcard you get it needs to be an ATI, and Newegg.com is probably going to be your best resource for ordering it.

Why's it need to be ATI? The one that came in the computer was nVidia. Also, I already said I can't order online, or I would....

**WhiteUnit** · 11-09-2008 01:55 AM

Because ATI cards are made by AMD and they are built around each other. The general rule about Vcards is that if your running Intel go Nvidia, and AMD with ATI.

**Ynot** · 11-09-2008 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteUnit

Because ATI cards are made by AMD and they are built around each other. The general rule about Vcards is that if your running Intel go Nvidia, and AMD with ATI.

sorry, but that's a load of rubbish
it doesn't matter what brand of processor or graphics card you choose

**ninja9578** · 11-09-2008 06:27 AM

Actually, when the new OpenGL is finally released it will make a difference. AMD processors perform floating point calculations faster than Intel processors (by about 10&#37

and OpenCL puts some of it's pipeline on your extra core(s) and OpenGL is almost exclusively floating point.

Lots of game makers are slowly moving to OpenGL because DirectX 9 is being phased out by Microsoft and game developers are really weary of DirectX 10.

**WhiteUnit** · 11-09-2008 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by Ynot

sorry, but that's a load of rubbish
it doesn't matter what brand of processor or graphics card you choose

IYO

**Ynot** · 11-09-2008 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteUnit

IYO

can you come up with some evidence demonstrating that GPUs are selectively helped or hindered by the brand of CPU

If anything, it's got more to do with the motherboard chipset than the CPU
(talking Nvidia's SLI or AMD's Crossfire, here)
specifically the chipset's northbridge

**WhiteUnit** · 11-09-2008 09:02 AM

I'm just speaking from experience. I work tech support, so I hear all the problems. Most times when it comes down to graphics card problems that can't be fixed by simply updating a driver, it will be some form of ATI-Intel configuration.

Honestly though, is it that far-fetched that AMD is more compatible with it's own technology? Also, if he has a AMD proc, chances are hes using an AMD mobo.

The question is opinion based, anyway. I'll speak from my experience, you speak from yours. Just try not to be such a douche about it, mkay?

**dylanshmai** · 11-09-2008 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteUnit

Because ATI cards are made by AMD and they are built around each other. The general rule about Vcards is that if your running Intel go Nvidia, and AMD with ATI.

thats a load of crap. They run just as fine with an intel chip. Show me the proof to back up what you are saying and I might believe you.

you are crazy. You would have to update drivers anyways. This isn't an opinionated answer. I would have known about this for a long time if this was the case.

**WhiteUnit** · 11-09-2008 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by dylanshmai

thats a load of crap. They run just as fine with an intel chip. Show me the proof to back up what you are saying and I might believe you.

you are crazy. You would have to update drivers anyways. This isn't an opinionated answer. I would have known about this for a long time if this was the case.

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There you go, that should help you out a little. Because it is, in fact, an opinion.

Once again, it's just from what I have seen, and it's what folks around my workplace have come to accept as well. Don't agree? That's fine. You can have your own special opinion.

However, I don't work for you, and I'm not chasing down your information. That would make me too much like this:

Fact is, I don't care what a couple of dudes think on an internet forum about Lucid Dreaming. I've seen my evidence and have been convinced and that's not about to change due to your B&M.

**Bayside** · 11-09-2008 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Actually, when the new OpenGL is finally released it will make a difference. AMD processors perform floating point calculations faster than Intel processors (by about 10%) and OpenCL puts some of it's pipeline on your extra core(s) and OpenGL is almost exclusively floating point.

Lots of game makers are slowly moving to OpenGL because DirectX 9 is being phased out by Microsoft and game developers are really weary of DirectX 10.

You seem to know what you're talking about, what card would you recommend to me then? Something thats like a good investment for the future, I guess, and I'm guessing nVidia?

**ninja9578** · 11-10-2008 02:24 AM

nVidia seems faster for both DirectX 10 and OpenGL right now.

They've combined their GPUs and chipset onto one chip which makes it faster.

**Bayside** · 11-10-2008 03:42 AM

Ok, thanks. But can you recommend like a specific card? I had a 9800 GTX I think it was, but I wasn't so sure about it, and I think I could've gotten a better deal on it, so I took it back.