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      Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop

      Anyone have a chance to use this yet? I've heard it's supposed to be faster but doesn't really come with many new features.

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      Been using 9.04 (Jaunty) since Alpha 4

      Yes, it's noticeably faster all round
      I'm booting in just 25 seconds, down from ~30 seconds in Intrepid

      This is partly due to Linux 2.6.28
      Partly due to optimisations in the boot process

      (although Linux 2.6.28 is almost old-hat now, as .29 is out and .30 is in RC3)

      Boot times are not really important to me, but I guess laptop & netbook users will enjoy them

      As for new features
      Welcome to an evolutionary process
      You will almost never get "big picture" changes in a Linux release
      It's always lots of little changes

      Ubuntu specific new stuff in Jaunty include

      - The new notification system
      stacking notifications is awesome, especially when using an IM

      - Font optimisation
      now defaults to "best looking" DPI based on your monitors capabilities, rather than defaulting to 96 DPI


      General Upstream new stuff includes

      - Linux 2.6.28
      HUGE changelog here

      - Gnome 2.26 (see here)
      Most notably, Evolution now has full MAPI support (for those unlucky souls on MS Exchange) and native support to import Outlook PST archives

      Also Brasero is now the default CD/DVD authoring & burning app
      (has been in Ubuntu for a while, but now it's now default upstream)

      - X.org 1.6 (including X-Server 7.4)
      - OpenOffice 3.0.1
      - General version rev's on all software

      and a whole heap of other stuff


      On the server side
      There's the integration of Eucalyptus
      To host Amazon EC2-style cloud computing services
      http://open.eucalyptus.com/

      Also there's a whole heap of zero-conf things (which I tend not to use, tbh) for making the setup of various server scenarios easier
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      I tried it on my friends computer, didn't like it because AWN wouldn't work and Compiz was broken...Didn't feel like fixing so I downgraded him.

      More trouble downgrading than it was worth though...

      Hey guys, I'm back. Feels good man
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      I installed it yesterday, just overwrote my old install of Kubuntu 7.10, but haven't had much opportunity to play with it. However, from what I did, I like it. I tried to install it via Wubi at first, but it froze at "Creating the virtual disks."

      Not having used any versions of Ubuntu since 7.10, and rarely at that, I must say I really like the file manager.

      I do have a question you may be able to help with, Ynot. I was going to as at the Ubuntu forums. During the installation, I opted to import my Firefox settings from Vista, when asked. That's the only thing I chose to import over. However, it does not seem to have worked. All I've got is a vanilla Firefox install in Gnome, with none of my bookmarks or such. I'm not sure how it does it, but I was hoping for at least the bookmarks. Any suggestions?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      I do have a question you may be able to help with, Ynot. I was going to as at the Ubuntu forums. During the installation, I opted to import my Firefox settings from Vista, when asked. That's the only thing I chose to import over. However, it does not seem to have worked. All I've got is a vanilla Firefox install in Gnome, with none of my bookmarks or such. I'm not sure how it does it, but I was hoping for at least the bookmarks. Any suggestions?
      Boot to vista, and in Firefox, go Bookmarks > Organise bookmarks
      and export your bookmarks to a file
      Import this file into Firefox on Ubuntu
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      Whoops, forgot to reply here!

      When I read your post, Ynot, I did a facepalm. Did as you suggested.

      I've been playing with Ubuntu a lot at the library, as that's the only place I can get online with it. Even though it was actually a cinch to get my USB winmodem working with scanModem and a couple of drivers from the Linmodem project, as it turns out my dial-up ISP now requires users to connect with their software. They have a .deb package for Linspire, but it doesn't work with Ubuntu. I'm not sure what exactly is the problem, but I'm thinking it can't find the modem, and I've got no clue as to how to help it do so besides associating it with /dev/modem, and I doubt even that would work, ultimately. So I just go to the library and use their wireless network.

      Anyway, I've downloaded quite a few programs to mess around with, from Cairo-Dock to Screem. I replaced network-manager with wicd, because I found network-manager lacking in functionality, and I've got laptop-tools configured for maximum battery life (thanks to some key threads on Ubuntu Forums), and I've set up Firefox how I like it, aloing with installing a few themes for Gnome. I tried the awesome window manager, but discovered it's just not my style; I like my eye candy too much.

      All in all, I find I'm using Ubuntu solely almost every time I go out with my laptop, whther for internet browsing, watching videos on YouTube, or just reading the forums for different projects to try. Linux is just as fun as I remember it.

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      Well, I don't know how to connect to the internet. I just installed it yesterday, and I would really like to know how to use it. I know how to get into the network preferences, but I need to actually get the wireless set up, and then I have another problem. Next to the name of the wireless connection, it says "never". I'm assuming that means it never connects to that. How do I change that? Also, being new, I don't know how to spin the cube to change OS'. I've never used Ubuntu before, just got it on a friend's reference, so I might be misguided. All I know is I could get in trouble for screwing up the new computer if I don't figure it out. Help?

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      Quote Originally Posted by oniman7 View Post
      Well, I don't know how to connect to the internet. I just installed it yesterday, and I would really like to know how to use it. I know how to get into the network preferences, but I need to actually get the wireless set up, and then I have another problem. Next to the name of the wireless connection, it says "never". I'm assuming that means it never connects to that. How do I change that? Also, being new, I don't know how to spin the cube to change OS'. I've never used Ubuntu before, just got it on a friend's reference, so I might be misguided. All I know is I could get in trouble for screwing up the new computer if I don't figure it out. Help?
      sounds like your wireless is all setup
      Just left click the network icon and select the wireless network you want to connect to

      You can also instruct the network manager to automatically connect to your prefered wireless network by right clicking the network icon, selecting "edit connections"
      in the preferences for your prefered wireless network, check the "connect automatically" box

      As for the cube, install compizconfig-settings-manager
      either in Synaptic, or by typing
      Code:
      sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
      In the settings manager, just enable the cube and cube rotation
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      All right. That helped. But I have another question. I tried to get the internet working, but couldn't (before I read your advice) and logged out. Shortly before, I had set it to install both Ubuntu and Windows and run them side by side. I restart the computer. When it booted back up, it ejected the disk and told me to take the disc out and hit enter. I did so, and it went to Windows. So, my question is, how do I get it to run Ubuntu now?

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      Ah, you haven't installed Ubuntu yet
      You're running off of the LiveCD

      Boot up the CD and choose "install Ubuntu"
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      This leads to my next problem. I did that while I was on Ubuntu. When i went to Windows, however, I put the disk back in. I tried to run the installer, but it gave me some error message. it's headed with "Windows - No Disk". It's one of the most notorious ( in my opinion ) problems you can get on windows, because it doesn't go away. No matter what you do to close it, a new one pops up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by oniman7 View Post
      This leads to my next problem. I did that while I was on Ubuntu. When i went to Windows, however, I put the disk back in. I tried to run the installer, but it gave me some error message. it's headed with "Windows - No Disk". It's one of the most notorious ( in my opinion ) problems you can get on windows, because it doesn't go away. No matter what you do to close it, a new one pops up.
      sorry, I'm not really sure what you're talking about

      Are you booting off of the Ubuntu LiveCD?
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      No, I think he's talking about using Wubi.
      Or he's trying to install it the regular way after already booting into windows.
      This shit never happens to me

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      That's precisely what I'm doing. I took the installer from the Ubuntu website and burned it to a CD. Then I put that CD in, and tried to install it. You should note the same thing happens when I use Wubi straight from the sight. How else would I be able to install it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by oniman7 View Post
      That's precisely what I'm doing. I took the installer from the Ubuntu website and burned it to a CD. Then I put that CD in, and tried to install it. You should note the same thing happens when I use Wubi straight from the sight. How else would I be able to install it?
      Which one?
      I gave two possibilites.
      This shit never happens to me

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      I wouldn't personally recommend Wubi
      I've always been happier with proper partitioning

      With the CD in the CD drive, restart your computer
      Your machine should boot from the CD
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      Wubi worked fine with me, I'm on Ubuntu right now that was a Wubi install.
      I would've done it with proper partitioning but my disks wouldn't partition.
      This shit never happens to me

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      My problem is this; I restarted my computer with the disk in the drive, and it ran Ubuntu great. However, I realized it wasn't installed, so I installed it (from Ubuntu). After that, I restarted. The computer asked me to eject the disc and hit enter. I did so, and it started up on Windows. I was supposed to "run them side by side, choosing one upon startup". I figured it had to be installed on Windows, too, and tried that. And now we've arrived at where I currently am.

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      can you boot to the Ubuntu LiveCD, and open up a terminal
      Applications > Accessories > Terminal

      and post the output of
      Code:
      sudo fdisk -l
      That's "dash little L" at the end
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      Alright.
      I have Ubuntu on my other computer, so give me a couple of minutes until I can get results. By the way, what should the code do?

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      It details out your disk partitions

      this is machine specific
      so you have to be using the computer you're trying to install on

      not a different one
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ynot View Post
      It details out your disk partitions

      this is machine specific
      so you have to be using the computer you're trying to install on

      not a different one
      Oh, I know. I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my other computer. I just wanted you to know I can't get back to you right away.

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      By the way, it's Windows Vista. Does that change anything?

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      Quote Originally Posted by oniman7 View Post
      By the way, it's Windows Vista. Does that change anything?
      shouldn't do, no
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      It shouldn't as far as I know, but I used wubi on Vista.
      It wouldn't work the other way for me.
      This shit never happens to me

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