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12-23-2009, 06:48 AM
Replicon

The nice thing about Chrome is that each tab is a separate process, so spinning javascript won't hang the entire thing.

If I can get:

- AdBlock
- Flashblock
- Greasemonkey
- Webdev Toolkit + Firebug-like functionality

In chrome, I'd make the switch.
12-23-2009, 02:27 PM
ninja9578

Replicon, you might be interested in Kirix Strata.
12-23-2009, 03:01 PM
khh

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Originally Posted by Xox

Chrome is definitely the fastest for me. I used to use Opera before Chrome came out, because it was faster than FF.

Opera's faster than Chrome on my machines. Strange.

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Originally Posted by Mario92

Opera isn't all that fabulous, either. It's okay, but not brilliant. Speed Dial was the best feature it had, and guess what, that's now available on FF, too.

Opera invented tabbed browsing, and it's still by far the best browser for it.
Also, it's got other useful features, like IRC chat, a good RSS reader and an okay mail client. And unlike the Firefox plugins, these are professionally made.

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Originally Posted by Mario92

Haven't tried Safari yet, but I doubt that one stacks up any better. The user-friendliness of FF also makes it a good choice.

Safari feels about the same as Chrome.

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Originally Posted by Replicon

The nice thing about Chrome is that each tab is a separate process, so spinning javascript won't hang the entire thing.

I've never had javascript hang Opera. Can that even happen?
12-23-2009, 03:11 PM
Kromoh

Opera never impressed me at all. Safari is terrible. As I (think I) said before, Firefox is only good because of the massive addons. If you're looking for a lightweight browser, Chrome is the way to go, hands down. If you're looking for a heavyweight, full-bundled browser, Firefox is the thing.

Btw, I really prefer Chrome's all-in-one bar thing that FF's two bars. But that is just me.
12-23-2009, 05:35 PM
Replicon

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Originally Posted by khh

I've never had javascript hang Opera. Can that even happen?

If you have enough crap added to your onload, you can make something happen. It doesn't have to be all pages, but in general, Javascript is actually single-threaded. People don't seem to know this.

On my Ubuntu, for some reason, FF is a LOT more sensitive to this than FF on Windows. Like, just typing a message to someone on facebook is unbearably laggy. But only on my Linux laptop. Not sure why. Also, any blogspot page hangs it for a few seconds while it generates I-don't-know-what on the left side. Same is true for browsing Yahoo groups.
12-23-2009, 05:40 PM
Keresztanya

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Originally Posted by Replicon

If you have enough crap added to your onload, you can make something happen. It doesn't have to be all pages, but in general, Javascript is actually single-threaded. People don't seem to know this.

On my Ubuntu, for some reason, FF is a LOT more sensitive to this than FF on Windows. Like, just typing a message to someone on facebook is unbearably laggy. But only on my Linux laptop. Not sure why. Also, any blogspot page hangs it for a few seconds while it generates I-don't-know-what on the left side. Same is true for browsing Yahoo groups.

Turn off visual effects, on older machines, Compiz effects really slow some things down.

Speed dial isn't the only thing for Opera. Mouse gestures are amazing, superior password manager, Opera Link backs up and stores your bookmarks and speed dial across all computers, and it's much more lightweight than Firefox. Sure, the add-ons on Firefox are nice, but most of them are only there to add basic functionality that Firefox lacks out of the box compared to others, and most of them are pretty useless.
12-23-2009, 06:14 PM
Donran

I don`t know about the other browsers, but when i voted mozilla, the results came out as 100% votes for mozilla and 23% votes for IE. That was complete win.

How come there`s still people that uses it, even after this overvote?:P
12-23-2009, 06:40 PM
MementoMori

I don't really know, i am happy though because this is the information i was looking for, how others felt about the two and various others, and how on or the other works on different OS...
Thanks guys!
12-23-2009, 08:01 PM
Maria92

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Originally Posted by khh

Also, it's got other useful features, like IRC chat, a good RSS reader and an okay mail client.

Available, available, and available

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Originally Posted by Demon Parasite

Mouse gestures are amazing, superior password manager, Opera Link backs up and stores your bookmarks and speed dial across all computers, and it's much more lightweight than Firefox.

Available, available, and available. I may consider switching to Chrome or another browser in the future, but I'm quite happy with Firefox at the moment. It's scary-fast on my machine, has a lot of great add-ons, and has a nice feel to it.
12-25-2009, 03:50 AM
khh

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Originally Posted by Mario92

Available, available, and available

Only through addon, that's not a good RSS-reader, only with separate application or through an addon.

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Originally Posted by Mario92

Available, available, and available. I may consider switching to Chrome or another browser in the future, but I'm quite happy with Firefox at the moment. It's scary-fast on my machine, has a lot of great add-ons, and has a nice feel to it.

Poorly implemented, Not as good, only through addon.

And everyone's always moaning about adds, but they don't seem to realise that Opera's "content blocker" is perfect, really, for weeding out adds.
12-25-2009, 03:51 AM
Maria92

I, too, have an ad-blocker. And I also like the third-party system for add-ons. It allows for greater flexibility. If one program doesn't work for you, switch it for something similar. Very nice.
12-25-2009, 04:04 AM
khh

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Originally Posted by Mario92

I, too, have an ad-blocker. And I also like the third-party system for add-ons. It allows for greater flexibility. If one program doesn't work for you, switch it for something similar. Very nice.

When those features are built in, the one "program" does work for you. And there's no need to hunt for some other implementation.
12-25-2009, 04:13 AM
Maria92

It may work, but perhaps there is something that works better? Say the built-in program has a feature that gets on your nerves. You are in the minority in this case, so the feature remains. What are you to do? With FF, at least you can go and swap out the program for something of similar build and design without said irritating feature.
12-25-2009, 04:27 AM
khh

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Originally Posted by Mario92

It may work, but perhaps there is something that works better? Say the built-in program has a feature that gets on your nerves. You are in the minority in this case, so the feature remains. What are you to do? With FF, at least you can go and swap out the program for something of similar build and design without said irritating feature.

Can't think of what that should be... Pretty much all GUI-elements can be moved around, you can download or design custom skins, pretty much all features can be changed or deactivated. The only thing that bugs me is that it doesn't have a por- I mean private browsing feature.
12-25-2009, 04:32 AM
Maria92

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Originally Posted by khh

Can't think of what that should be... Pretty much all GUI-elements can be moved around, you can download or design custom skins, pretty much all features can be changed or deactivated. The only thing that bugs me is that it doesn't have a por- I mean private browsing feature.

:chuckle:

Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree. (Firefox, btw, has an excellent "Private Browsing" feature.)
12-25-2009, 05:46 AM
MementoMori

;)

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Originally Posted by Mario92

:chuckle:

Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree. (Firefox, btw, has an excellent "Private Browsing" feature.)
12-26-2009, 05:07 PM
Awakening

I don't get what feature you are talking about. It's a virus free "private browsing" ? :P
12-26-2009, 06:33 PM
Maria92

It's a mode where, once you enter it, absolutely no history, no trails of evidence, are recorded. It's very useful when searching for por--I mean, shopping for family members who use the same computer.

It's not virus-free, but FF has a pretty decent security system, and if you have a good firewall, you should be pretty okay, as long as you don't download something.
12-26-2009, 07:16 PM
SomeDreamer

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It's not virus-free, but FF has a pretty decent security system, and if you have a good firewall, you should be pretty okay, as long as you don't download something

Coupled with Avast! it's an awesome combination :D Avast! is quite good at blocking you from entering a website/file which is malicious.
12-27-2009, 03:12 AM
MementoMori

Agree ↑

@Mario92:
{[_ (o) {[_ at por- i mean the shopping quote!
12-27-2009, 04:13 PM
Kromoh

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Originally Posted by khh

When those features are built in, the one "program" does work for you. And there's no need to hunt for some other implementation.

True. It's what I dislike about ~~communist~~ complement-dependent software like Linux, FF, Trillian, and who knows what else. I mean, I want a car, without having to go around for its pieces. Few addons are nice... too many, especially to do basic things which could have been implemented in the core, are annoying.
12-27-2009, 05:22 PM
MementoMori

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Originally Posted by Kromoh

True. It's what I dislike about ~~communist~~ complement-dependent software like Linux, FF, Trillian, and who knows what else. I mean, I want a car, without having to go around for its pieces. Few addons are nice... too many, especially to do basic things which could have been implemented in the core, are annoying.

Very good counter-argument!

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