Trying so hard!

[Zeroacestar]

I have been trying pretty hard to WILD and have been successful in the past only twice. Since then I have tried quite a few times and what usually has been happening is I fall asleep after about an hour. I go into my dream and I am always at someone else's house and I tell them I have to try to WILD. So I start trying to WILD in my dream and it works every time in my dreams lol.

[MasterMind]

You shouldn't start out with WILD it's the hardets thing to begin with. And if you you fail your emotions will even make you lose your motivation and so on. And Wild takes 15-20 min so you will get very frustrated when you fail. I really recommend this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/how-ha...t-wild-106427/ Yeah it is a WILD xD but not the WILD that you now probably try to do, it's an easier way. Try it for a week you will not be dissapointed.

[Zeroacestar]

I have read his book and tried the techniques a bit and they seem to get me almost there but never all the way. I get to where I think I am day dreaming and walking around but I can't feel anything in my dream. I will try to reach for something and realize that the only thing I feel, it my real body on my bed and I can feel my body sort of wake up.

[MasterMind]

I have read his book and tried the techniques a bit and they seem to get me almost there but never all the way. I get to where I think I am day dreaming and walking around but I can't feel anything in my dream. I will try to reach for something and realize that the only thing I feel, it my real body on my bed and I can feel my body sort of wake up. Ok then you are doing something wrong, I did too then I asked him on his forum and he told me what I was doing wrong and it worked. I know pretty much about the subject and I got some own experiences too =) Tell me EXACTLY how you did when you just got your day dream feeling, because if you felt real sensations it means that you were really close, and maybe I can help you. I just want to share this incredible method with as many people as I can, because it worked for 3 days in a row and these experiences really felt like I allways have wanted a lucid dream to feel. Real as reality! x) And yeah it is basically deild, but he have explained everything really clearly for me. How to notice awakenings, waking up still and eyes closed and what do to enter the dream world which is the hardest part, but that he finally made me understand. AND it's actually pretty easy when you understand HOW.

[Zeroacestar]

I relax my body completely and try to keep a "free floating" state of mind. I focus on my feet at first and I can feel them start to vibrate and from there I move it throughout my whole body. While I am trying to get the vibrations to spread over my entire body, I can clearly see vivid objects and sometimes sceneries. Then I will find myself doing something like in a daydream. This is where I think I mess up, I usually end up reaching for something or rubbing my hands together and I can't feel anything. In the process of not feeling anything, I realize that all I can feel is my body in my bed and I start to feel my body wake up.

[MasterMind]

Wat wait wait ... Did you do direct techniques ? :/ I see that you joined the forum recently and maybe you are new to lucid dreaming, maybe not. But Michael Raduga was over clear of that novice pracctioner should not start out with direct techniques. That that is too hard and when the pacctioner fail he will even stop pracctising at all. Instead you should start out with indirect techniques and when they can do that anytime, they can start to pracctise direct techniques. But if you are on of those who don't care about that, well then I can not help you... Good luck anyway =/

[Zeroacestar]

Well the indirect techniques are pretty much the same thing as the direct ones right? I am mostly going off of what feels right. I am good at the vibration thing and the visuals so that's that I stick with. Sometimes I try to listen in if the opportunity presents itself. The times I got it to work, I laid on my stomach and didn't move for about 20 mins and I just was there. I didn't have to do anything at all lol.

[MasterMind]

Direct techniques takes 15-20 min indirect techniques takes 1 or even just some seconds. That is why experienced pracctioners sometimes decide to only pracctise indirect techniques. But hey, Michael Raduga have not made up these things it's a result from 300 Russian students And that is why he know how to get to phase the easiest way and all the problem on the way. But it's for you to decide, if you get lucid dreams frequently, well then you obviously don't need any of this =) I am just starting to get the hang of it, I have only managed to be in the phase for 5 minutes with completely real and vivid experience, so I am still just a newbie =/ I have pracctised lucid dreaming induction for a little more than one year now, and the techniques from ETWOLD have given me lucid dreams that were pretty vivid, but they never felt REAL, and I didn't know when to get them. This method lets me know that I will have a lucid dream, I only have to notice an awakening instead of notice a dream. And Michael Raduga have told me how to go from there. This forum was created to share the best way to get lucid dreams, that's just what I am trying to do And it's free so it's not a scam ... And the diffrence of indirect techniques are: Indirect techniques: Enter the phase after unconscious sleep. Direct techniques: Enter the phase of no sleep at all or 5 minutes of sleep also counts.