What am I supposed to do with my eyes?

**majorthomas** · 11-11-2011 12:25 PM

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to not focus on anything or if I'm supposed to try and see things. For example, I can either, (when I'm laying down with my eyes closed)

A: Not focus on anything, like when you try to fall asleep.
or
B: Try to see through my eyelids.
Which am I supposed to?
And if it's neither of the two above, what the hell am I supposed to do?

**Choi** · 11-11-2011 03:55 PM

Nice your Swedish. So am I

But to answer your question. You can either look into the black space wit coloured dots, by looking with eyes closed so to speak. That way you can imagine that your dark eyelids is a screen.
But you can also try to imagine that your visualisation is taking place outside your field of vision, by for example try to visualise the "screen" above your head.
But there is no wrong or right, so just do what you think feels best. When you actually dream you don't see it with your physical eyes, you see it with a third eye so to speak, it's a hallucination.
I saw a documentary about the senses and appearantley we don't see with our eyes in the real world either, we don't have a sight centra in the brain every sense works together and we experience the world in our brain, hard to explain but this was truley a mind f*ck.

When you visualise the most imporant thing is not to see, it's to experience, pretend that the place you visualise in is REAL and that you are there, now you are dreaming, daydreaming.
And when you hit rem and whatever crazy things that happens there, well your thoughts feel real and you can explore that thought even more vividly than you can explore the real world.

**Darkmatters** · 11-11-2011 04:02 PM

Just pop them out and toss them in a jar - you don't need them when you're sleeping.

No, seriously though, you don't want to be thinking about your eyes,or any part of your body. You're falling asleep, and if you concentrate on parts of your body you won't be able to drift off. Just let yourself fall asleep, or start to anyway. When you hit that point where you're midway between waking and sleeping you'll start to "see" lights and squiggly lines and weird stuff. It's not inside your eyelids as some people say - really it's strictly in your minds eye - the visual cortex. It's all in your mind.

Just let it happen, watch as they form and become more 'solid' and complex - they'll turn into images and then start to move. At first they'll look transparent as if you're seeing things reflected onto a windowpane, but suddenly they'll become solid and opaque and start to move, and then you're in a dream. If you can manage to keep some small part of your mind 'awake' through this transition, then you're a true 'wild-man'!