I'll be trying this as soon as possible, hopefully tonight in a WBTB
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I'll be trying this as soon as possible, hopefully tonight in a WBTB
Awesome! I wish you luck. If you fail, don't get discouraged...just keep practicing. It is a bit cliche, but practice makes perfect in the world of lucid dreaming as well! Good Luck!
Thank you so much KingYoshi for this technique! :goodidea:
I will give it a try and will post result. I only succeeded 2 times at WILD. I can DEILD pretty easily but I have some issue getting into SP.
Wish me luck!!!:goodjob2:
No problem :). Good Luck and I really hope it works out for you! Just remember to stay confident! I'm a big fan of the quote in your signature, btw.
Alright last night i fell asleep after my WBTB. I must admit that i have never succeded at a WILD, but I'm game to try again tonight
I got so easily to SP. My problem is on HI. I think I was focusing too much on it. I should have look at it more passively.
Will try again tonight.;)
You lost consciousness eh? Perhaps you should try to stay awake a bit longer before attempting the WILD during your WBTB session.
Yeah, don't really focus on any particular hallucination. The key is to just kick back and observe the entire experience as a whole. Your anchor is the entire process. Just allow your body to fall into a deeper and deeper relaxation as you sit back and let SP do its thing.
I had a lucid after trying to WILD but it was a DILD. I did not focus on HI. But I think I just fell asleep . I was focusing on my breathing to not fall asleep and to relax.
I am getting closer and closer. Never give up;)
Yoshi, I always have DILD using your technique. :-)
Procedure:
Sleep 7h,
Wake up,
Write 20 affirmation,
Yoshi's (but half - I let myself fall asleep when on the side) WILD.
Like 90% success rate.
Thanks.
Yeah, that will happen sometimes. Which isn't a bad thing by any means. Failed WILD attempts often lead to DILDs. Just keep at it and I'm sure success is just around the corner. Stay positive!
Ah, yes that is one of the most overlooked aspects of attempting to WILD. Even if you don't succeed in the WILD process, lucid dreaming is so fresh on your mind that it can lead to many DILDs. I, too, have had many DILDs from falling asleep normally (losing consciousness) during the WILD process. That is one reason I always thought it best to be more on the sleepy side for a WBTB than the awake side. Nothing is more frustrating then laying awake for long periods of time with nothing happening. When you are more on the tired side, even If you accidentally lose consciousness, your DILD % will go up. Simply because you fell asleep thinking about/trying to lucid dream.
Last night I fell unconcious without retaining conciousness, but i still had a vivid dream. I'm hoping to continue trying almost every night until I pull off a WILD
Ah, that happens sometimes. No worries, just keep working at it. Try to learn from your mistakes and failures. Look at them as experience gained. Just try to do a little better and get a little closer with each attempt. Keep that positive attitude and keep working toward your goal. Persistence will pay off in the end. Good luck to you!
I just realized another reason why the rolling over is a great addition to the standard WILD: It helps to keep you from falling asleep without retaining conciousness. Kudos Yoshi
Indeed it does. The beauty in it is, not only is the roll/position change especially helpful to those who tend to lose consciousness, but it also acts as a refresh button for those who often lay awake for hours with nothing happening. It helps out both sides of the WILD equation :D.
I actually had forgotten to change sides on my last two tries, but i will really put effort into staying concious tonight. cheers
Good luck to you! Remember to stay calm and confident!
I used this WILD technique and finally had some success! I had been trying the Hemi-Sync (Monroe institute) Lucid Dreaming audio on headphones every night, but had no success after 2 weeks. Then I found this forum and this technique in particular and it actually worked. Well, it worked mostly.
I say mostly because I did have a false awakening, and I realized that I was dreaming, however I heard someone using the sink in my apartment during the dream and got scared and woke up. So I didn't enjoy full control yet. Maybe tonight :)
For anyone having trouble with externally induced Lucid Dreaming like I did, I'd suggest to try this. I did add some internal (i.e. not aloud) affirmation - "the next thing I see, I will be dreaming", repeated while reverse blinking. Once my eyes felt heavy I stopped the affirmations and concentrated, but not too hard, on the imagery that came as Yoshi describes.
A quick question on Sleep Paralysis: When I was drifting away, immediately before my false awakening, I felt a sudden, extremely strong tingling all over my body. It was overwhelmingly strong, but not painful. Is this a sign of SP?
I tried to do this when I woke up around an hour ago, but I started coughing. Does coughing affect WILDs? Should I have kept on going? And it's a school night tonight. I might try again during a nap later, though.
I have a question about HH, do they go away if you open your eyes? ie, if I get scared by someone grabbing me or something, can I open my eyes to stop the SP process?
Also, can I have a fan on, do I put blankets on me or not?
Indeed, those intense vibrations are very common with SP. They generally occur right as SP is fully setting in. Usually there will be other signs of SP starting to show itself before these vibrations (patterns, lights, blurred images, numbness, ect). Just try to stay relaxed when these vibrations start. They can definitely be a bit overwhelming the first few times you experience them, but eventually you will get used to them.
If you have to cough...go ahead and do it. Then just continue with the process as if you never coughed in the first place. It won't ruin your chances for success. Now if you are sick and are coughing excessively, it may be difficult to fall asleep, let alone perform a successful WILD. Just a normal cough/throat clear/etc won't hurt you in the least.
I always sleep with a fan on (even in the winter), keep my room pretty chilly, and sleep under a heavy blanket. That is what makes me the most comfortable and performing WILDs is all about comfort and relaxation. Sleep how you are most comfortable. During SP, your eyelids will become paralyzed as well. Though they do tend to be the last body part to become paralyzed and the first to break SP. You can certainly fight through and break SP if you want to badly enough. Just try to open your eyes and force your body to move. You most likely won't be able to move the first couple jerks you try, but just keep working yourself awake and you will break SP. I would say that 80% of the time, nothing even remotely scary will happen during SP. Only a few times ever has it felt like someone touched me/grabbed me/jabbed me in the ribs (bastard SP, lol)/etc. Most of the time when you get something scary it will be a "feeling of dread/impending doom" hallucination or some sort of loud auditory hallucination that might startle you. Those are pretty easy to overcome with some practice. Just assure yourself that you cannot be harmed and everything is just a hallucination. The feeling of dread will pass after a few moments...usually once SP sets in deep. As for loud noises, just be prepared for any auditory hallucinations and simply try to ignore them. Not too bad at all.
That helps my confidence greatly, another question, more lengthy.
Ive never had a lucid dream, its never really occured to me that im dreaming when I am, no matter how ridiculous the dream "oh a dinosaur eating a clown and flying away, that makes perfect sense to me... durrr hurr...". Most of my dreams are more like memories that I unlock when I wake up and think.. hmm... that was a dream? ohhh that was a dream! Will WILDing be a for sure lucid, ie if I stand up after SP and HH and do a RC to find I'm dreaming, or will I forget to RC like I typically do in dreams?
Also, I've read that the mind will send a strong "turn over now" signal, and if you disobey it the mind assumes your asleep and SP sets in. Should I obey it and turn over and restart my counting, or should I disobey it and focus on remaining still and getting to SP?
Pretty cool technique. This is basically what I do when I try to WILD the only difference is I don't use the reverse blinking and I just lay on my back so I don't pass out. My problem is just getting into sleep paralysis. Any tips?
I just let my mind wander. (Sometimes to the point I pass out).
I do a WBTB always
I'm relaxed
etc.
My hands tend to get numb and sometimes I get a spinning feeling. Never any HI. When I do get these sensations, my heart rate increases (which I know is a hallucination) and my breathing pattern changes. (Which I think is my problem.)
Thanks. When you start getting those spinning sensations, increased hear rate hallucinations, etc...this is the first stages of SP. Remember, when you sleep, your breathing is slow, deep, and relatively methodical. Try to keep this pattern. The on set of hallucinations can get the emotions/and adrenaline flowing...this, of course, is not what you want. Counter this by keeping that slow deep breathing pattern and imagine yourself falling into a deeper and deeper state of relaxation. If you know that you are breathing normal, but it feels/sounds like you are breathing in an irregular manner...this could also be a hallucination. Don't trust your senses in SP, just continue the process and believe what you know. If that makes any sense :P. You are getting very close. Make sure when you let your mind wonder, that part of you is still observing the darkness. It is like the backdrop of the entire technique. If you don't stay in that casual observation mode and get lost in your thoughts...it is easy to lose consciousness. It is quite a fine line and will take practice and experience to learn how to walk it. Hope this helped out a bit. Good luck to you!
Thanks.
I find that if I stare at the back of my eyelids my eyes open thats why I keep my mind wandering. I also see like blobs and different colors swirling around if I do stare at the back of my eyelids but I also get this if I were awake like right now here while i'm typing this up, if I closed my eyes I would see the exact same thing. Swirly things with different colors. I don't think this is HI though.
Thanks for the help.
Btw, do you have msn? Mine is [email protected] if you would like to add me. (I made that e-mail in like 3rd grade.)