I dont get any HI

[Hercuflea]

also, one question, is HI supposed to be like that swirly green and blue stuff on your eyelids, or is it like mental images you get when you are thinking about stuff. In other words...say i am thinking about being at the beach. Would that scenery be HI, or iis HI just the stuff you see swirling around in your eyes? Anyways, i tried to WILD last night but i got absolutely nowhere. I can always get my legs and arms to go numb, and my eyes get really heavy, but i cant get any farhter than that. I am afraid to just "passively watch my thoughts" because i will go asleep if i am not thinking about being lucid

[AURON]

Hypnagogic Hallucinations Tutorial as for your wild attempt, you just have to keep working at it to find out what works for you. Also try not to think about what's happening with your body during the attempt. It sounds like that could be distracting you.

[Hercuflea]

thanks i think i have read that already, but i forgot everything in it. Im at college right now but ill read it when i get some time