New banner development

**nina** · 08-12-2005 12:59 AM

I'm still into changing the header. I don't like how it's all grainy...and I mean...misty mountains is a bit generic, no? And the font seems too "gentle" for the rest of the site which is a nice streamlined professional design.

If you guys wanna keep it then I won't waste my time trying to make some other ones, but if you are open to the idea I might mess around and see what I could come up with.

And I've already got some sweet ass ideas that are way more like..."whoa lucid dreaming!!"

**icedawg** · 08-12-2005 11:04 PM

well, something needs to be done because the header over the main site says 'forum,' which just isn't right. but i can't very well alter it w/o it looking like poop.

i'm open to new header ideas, but i wouldn't know what to suggest...i just know i like something after i see it. that's how we go that one...dylan was just coming up with some ideas, and threw that one out, and i really liked it.

i also want to look into changing the horizontal-lined background, too. not so much like going with a different pattern, but just the colours. i don't like it as much as i did.

and while i'm on it, it seems like the top needs something more. like, it just feels empty...when i go to other big forums, there's more stuff up there. i dunno what though. like a menu for the main site stuff? or something.

lots of room for improvement.

**nina** · 08-15-2005 12:12 AM

roger that

**Nirvana Starseed** · 08-15-2005 08:35 AM

The current design is bearable and not that bad.
BUT

Nina said it perfectly. It is too grainy.
For me there has always been something wrong about the blue ish tone at the top there.
Even though it is not a bad mountain scene something about it is wrong.

"Lucid dreaming forum" <-----maybe something less obvious or different than this text at the botton of the heading dreamviews? It is not that bad a font but maybe there is a better font aswell.

If I had a computer with all artish computer programs, I would be able to make an outstanding header and design with the right programs, but since I havn't got that we might have to settle for ninas ones.

the grey horizontal lines reminds me of Smith Chips. Good idea to change that. Even though it is very classy, maybye its the greyish color of it. Something about it doesn't match in.

Then again I can't talk. Look at my avatar and sig.....

**nina** · 08-15-2005 03:09 PM

ok I'm gonna try to put some headers together then...I am looking at the gray stripes and am getting some ideas but maybe once the header comes together we can figure out something that would work better colorwise...

**Tornado Joe** · 08-16-2005 09:00 PM

Originally posted by icedawg
...when i go to other big forums, there's more stuff up there. i dunno what though...

Yeah, Ice, I know what you mean - it's called junk! Now, I'm no big shot on the site but I know a thing or two about design and would like to voice an opinion (oh, I think I'm on the Art Team too, so there's another excuse). I find the current design clean and inviting. It might be lacking a bit in having a focal point, but there's a thin line between focal point and distraction sometimes.

and while i'm on it, it seems like the top needs something more. like, it just feels empty...[/b]

"Empty" as in the content of the image? Because one of the things I find powerful about the image is that it is empty - it's like first entering a dream, ready to be filled by what our mind comes up with. Somewhat fitting for the topic of the site. The fact that it's too easily recognized as "mountains" and "earth" is kinda weak - but still, nice.

Anyway, I just thought I'd chime in. You seem to have a good sense of design so something good will come up, I'm sure.

**nina** · 08-17-2005 01:31 PM

ok then...I won't waste my time if you guys like the header

**Amethyst Star** · 08-17-2005 10:34 PM

I personally like the layout. I enjoy simple, complementary images that are pleasing yet not distracting. I have no skill in graphic design, so I won't pretend like I'm any kind of expert. For me, web page layouts (including images) are like jewelery: meant to accent, but not to be the focus. This site makes it so I can focus more on the text, on the people.

That's not to say I wouldn't like seeing other ideas. I enjoy seeing what people can come up with and if things look good and the site matches, then there is no reason that it couldn't be considered an option. Keep having fun toying with the ideas

**icedawg** · 08-19-2005 02:26 PM

Originally posted by Tornado Joe
Yeah, Ice, I know what you mean - it's called junk! Now, I'm no big shot on the site but I know a thing or two about design and would like to voice an opinion (oh, I think I'm on the Art Team too, so there's another excuse). I find the current design clean and inviting. It might be lacking a bit in having a focal point, but there's a thin line between focal point and distraction sometimes.

hey,

i was thinking like some sort of menu thing up there, to provide links to the lucid dreaming material on the main site. i think that would do a better job of pulling everything together, instead of presenting the forum and the main site as two separate entities. i actually had someone working on a menu once for us, but that sort of fell apart when the new theme was introduced. my concern is i just don't see how an added menu could work with the current header up there.

anyway, like Amethyst Star, i agree i like the design how it is, but could also like some changes made (again, like the header or the background). so nina (or anyone else), don't get discouraged if you have an idea...might as well try it out. it's impossible to say if i'd like something better w/o seeing it first though, so i don't want anyone to put in piles of effort in case it isn't received well.

**nina** · 08-20-2005 03:21 PM

Guys just keep in mind I am ONLY talking about the header. I think the design of the site is absolutely beautiful, crisp and clean. Very professional looking and I would never want to change that. I just don't think the grainy misty mountains are workin too well.

I completely agree that it would be cool to have nav to the main site via the forum. I never go to the main site anymore because it is quite disconnected from the forum so it would be great if they were tied together more. I will work that into any new header ideas I come up with.

I have to disagree with having a plain boring header. I mean, if the header is neat and enticing (like those surrealist images on the main site) then it will spark people's interest and make them more apt to come back. It will not take away from the content of the forum because after you see it a few times you will get used to it and it's no big deal or distraction. So a cool header will draw people to the site....they will want to come back to see it again and again...when they come back they will explore the forum more and more...after time they get used to it and it's not a distraction.

I don't see the downside here.

**icedawg** · 08-21-2005 05:48 PM

alright, well let's get some people throwing some concepts out there and see what happens.

**Lucid83** · 08-22-2005 06:38 AM

the skyworks semiconductor site has a good flash movie

anyone know how to make something similar or extract from the site

www.skyworksinc.com

this could make for a good flash header

Check the feedback section for my swf rendered version of a portion of that cloud moving

Their cloud movement is VERY TITE!!!! It has alot of frames too.

LUCID83

**Aphius** · 08-23-2005 03:50 AM

I have the url for just the moving clouds they use;

Moving Clouds

**nina** · 08-23-2005 05:11 AM

That's pretty sweet but can we use that? I mean isn't that uhh stealing? lol

**Aphius** · 08-23-2005 09:39 AM

Originally posted by Aquanina
That's pretty sweet but can we use that? I mean isn't that uhh stealing? lol

Yeah I reckon it would be.

It'd be easy to make our own if we could find a video of some rolling clouds, all thats really is, is a looping video with a fade in effect between the front and end of the sequence.

**nina** · 08-23-2005 12:16 PM

Yeah actually I could try to do some cloud effects with pyrocluster in cinema. I've done smoke and steam and such before but never tried clouds. Worth a shot I guess.

**Lucid83** · 08-23-2005 09:44 PM

Just messin around

http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dv2lt.swf

We dont have to use this exact one

**Aphius** · 08-24-2005 06:08 AM

Originally posted by Lucid83
Just messin around

http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dv2lt.swf

We dont have to use this exact one

Well, it's ok, but it definately would need some work.

**nina** · 08-24-2005 12:58 PM

1. the clouds are sweet but they aren't ours you know...let's quit with the stealing please

2. you should not be allowed to touch text

hehe

I'm gonna mess around with some stuff today...

**icedawg** · 08-26-2005 12:03 AM

wow. wouldn't it be sick to have a profressional-looking flash banner up there?

i'd imagine we cannot use those clouds, unless we get permission. if we do, could we do something with them though that would work well here? or are we better off coming up with something of our own, maybe even better?

**nina** · 08-26-2005 12:31 AM

Originally posted by icedawg
or are we better off coming up with something of our own, maybe even better?

I'm with you on this one

...I just hate ripping off other people's designs

**Aphius** · 08-26-2005 10:48 AM

Originally posted by icedawg
wow. wouldn't it be sick to have a profressional-looking flash banner up there?

i'd imagine we cannot use those clouds, unless we get permission. if we do, could we do something with them though that would work well here? or are we better off coming up with something of our own, maybe even better?

Hell yeah!

I hear that Nina.

**Lucid83** · 08-26-2005 07:54 PM

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**Tornado Joe** · 08-31-2005 08:35 PM

Ok, I wasn't originally gonna get involved with this one - but I started to help out Lucid83 with some of it and, well, one thing led to another.

Below is a rendition I put together - however, it is quite large for a banner (120k) and there's probably way too many things going on in it. But it's easier to take stuff out than to add in.

Also, I just realized that "Dreamviews" is actually TWO words - but I could fix that if this is something you all think worth pursuing.

DV Banner comp

**irishcream** · 08-31-2005 09:26 PM

hey, i really like that!! it's beautiful!

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