Thread: Into the Rabbit Hole

Spoiler for Dream Snippets from 3/17/05:

Lucids:
looking around my house for Jason
office, at a desk, very real, go into another room, bunch of girls sitting all around, no guys? i look for hot guys, finally find one

Dreams:
- Me and Lauren and Kerry, made a video of Lauren, something dirty on the video, taped over Chin, she ended up changing the video
- Me babysitting at the Rohrers, lost my shirt? Conversa was there, other guys, sister?
- In a tree house type of structure, underneath was a trampoline, just in case someone fell
- We were building a house, my dad was there, he found a loose board and fell face first about three floors to the ground, I jumped 4 floors to the ground to make sure he was ok, so worried, he said, how did you get down here so fast, I said i jumped, he said that it was impossible, I think that made me lucid, I knew it was a dream
- story pond, turquoise, so much copper its turning into zinc(?makes no sense), getting thick, polluted, children playing in polluted water, changed the whole lake into a gian swimming pool in these people's backyards, innertube with a whole in it, little girl swimming around, people's windows opened up into this swimming pool, no dolphins

The Sea Cave - 3/20/05

First dream I can remember I was in very shallow water with a group of people I really didn't know, maybe teachers and students? It was all sandy, and sort of dark like we were under some sort of cave like structure but I would see the bright turquoise water stretching out beyond the darkness. Suddenly I looked down and saw that there were little tutrtles all around me with other sea creatures like lobsters and little fish and I was walking very carefully trying not to step on them or get bit by them. Then someone noticed something large floating out in the deeper water out in the sunlight. Someone thought it might be a seal and it looked like it was struggling to get free of something, like it was all tied up so I ran out and jumped into the water and swam up to it. But it was no seal, it turned out to be a little boy that was very hairy. I remember calling back to the group that it was some sort of little ape-child, but then he began to speak to me and though I forget what he said, he floated up out of the water and took me along with him...in the deep water below us there were enormous fish, like ten feet long, there were sharks and other animals and it looked very ominous but very neat. The water was so clear and beautiful. Some of the people from the group swam out into the water as I flew with this boy around and over top of the water. I saw that they had found a dolphin and were talking to it and I badly wanted to go and see the dolphin and pet it (not even remembering my lucid task), when I dropped down into the water I caught a glimpse of the dolphin close up, it wasn't the cute bottle-nose kind, it was one of those ugly looking ones and it quickly swam away, the rest of that dream is a bit of a blur.

Second dream I can remember, we were on a stretch of highway overpass in Cincinnati that is under construction and for some reason it was full of water and you could go down the highway and off this exit like a big water slide. I think I did this a few times...again there were some other people there I think, like a group of tourists we all had life vests on and they were just sitting at the top and there was some guy in charge but I was anxious and wouldn't listen much to him so I kept getting in the water...and I could actually float in this dream as well...I can't believe I didn't become lucid

Another dream, I was at my house with my ex-boyfriend, it all becomes a bit blurry from there...something involving a rack of clothes that I needed to be moved into a closet...that's all I got.

Dream Sharing Attemp (lucid) - 3/21/05

Lucid dreaming was very effective when looking at my hands front and back and saying stabilize lucidity now, don't remember much, went back to sleep after lucids, Leonardo DiCaprio was there even though I'm not all that into him, tried to draw a portal into Howetzer's dream, couldn't, tried to draw a portal into Brett's dream, couldn't getting them confused, should just concentrate on one person, one person in my mind ---There was a barbecue, very tiki-ish

Spoiler for Dream Sharing Experiment - 3/23/05:

Dream Sharing Experiment

The morning after Jason's aka Howetzer's dream we met up in chat. I told him he had made a strange appearance in my dream last night. I had minimal recall, but the only thing from the entire night that I remember is seeing Howetzer's face entering my dream and me being somewhat startled (this is before Howetzer even mentioned that he had a dream about me). Then he told me about his dream.
http://dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?...ghlight=#146364
He wondered why I was startled when I saw him in my dream, and I was not sure. I said that he had frightened me, almost like I was going along in my own little dream world when all of a sudden this REAL BEING appeared there and it scared me at first. Until I realized who it was. But that is all I remember from that dream.

A friend of mine explained to me that you will be able to recognize real dream sharers/visitors from normal dream characters because they have a "prescence". This made perfect sense...why else would I be so startled to see another DC??

EDIT: I also remembered that in my dream he was wearing a hat (I had never seen him with a hat on before in either of the 2 pics on DV) and later that day or the next he posted a pic of himself with that hat on...and it looked exactly like the one from my dream

Spoiler for Dream Sharing Experiment, The Number 8 - 3/23/05:

Again, the morning after a dream that Howetzer had...we met up in chat. I told him that I had very little recall from the night before, but that he was there, except we were talking on like AIM or something...and I remember seeing the number 8 over and over again...like he kept typing it as a response to something. Like it meant something really important. Also, Amethyst was there, chatting with us as well, but she was sad, and crying. I later talked to her and she says she was indeed crying at her computer the night before

Here is an account of Howetzer's dream. Where the number 8 appears...
http://dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?...ghlight=#146386

Spoiler for Soccer Scoring & Far Off Tornados - 3/23/05:

March 23

No lucids, though at one point last night I distinctly remember asking myself if I was in a dream, didn't do any reality checks because I am not accustomed to using them...next time...

Minimal Dream Recall:
The major dream that I remember was that I was competing in some sort of sporting event, like soccer, for an olympic gold medal. I was awesome at it...I kept scoring, but the ball kept changing, first it was a soccer ball, turned intoa golf ball, turn into a fisherman's hat but I still kept scoring...at one point even the goal turned into a fireplace. Weird dream, but we ended up coming out on top. I remember leaving the arena and walking outside, there was a pool, it was like my freshman year of college all over again, bunch of freshman. People in the pool working out. Everyone was working out, except me!! Guess my subconscious is trying to tell me to get my ass into shape or something. I remember sitting at my desk and asking if it was a dream, but it never went any further than that.

:EDIT!!!: A PM from Howetzer just sparked another dream that I can't believe I forgot!! It was really long and vivid. I went out with my family to the countryside...we went through a corn field to watch for tornados. I guess all this talk about storm chasing got me thinking. I was taking pictures of the ominous sky, it was incredible. We were sitting in this broke down old barn by a river, on the other side of the river was what looked like the "projects" except they had been long abandoned and were falling apart. I tried to get my family to leave as the ominous clouds moved closer and closer, the thunder getting louder...I even saw funnel clouds and some clouds that looked like swirling constellations. Really cool and bizarre.

Spoiler for The Messenger (My Subconscious Speaks) & Tim Burton Houses - 3/31/05:

The people who know me well on this forum already know that I, for the most part, get lucids whenever I take naps during the day. And seeing as how I've had a full time job (and practically no naps) since January, my lucidity has been quite low. But now that I'm back in school, and I only have school from like either 9-12 one day or 2-5 another day I have plenty of napping time woohoo!! Anyway, I am just starting to get back in sync. I took a nap around noon today, lasted about 2 hours and I was in and out of lucidity the whole time...however I had litte to no control. I'm guessing that will come back to me the more I practice. Most of my lucids come from unintential WILDs BTW.

What's significant about this one experience in particular is that I believe I happened upon my subconscious. I was wandering around in a blank space when I heard a voice call out to me..."what are you doing?" It was a deep, but soothing voice. I asked who was there and he told me that he was my subconscious. He even gave me a name (which I am sooo mad at myself for forgetting. I made a point to remember it and then I just forgot it like right when I started typing this damn post...I think it was Brent(??)...shit) Anyway, he asked why I was stuck in the front left part of my brain, and I remember not really understanding what he meant. Then he told me to look deeper inside myself and I did, and I remember feeling this strange feeling of unity. It was really bizarre. Everything was still white though, but I was definitely dreaming. He said that I could not see him b/c he was my subconscious but I think my mind put a face to him anyway because he eventually did appear to me. It was the exact likeness of Dustin Hauffman (from The Messenger)...it was his voice as well. Then I remember visiting him in a hospital. He was laying in a bed next to a man with the Plague...this man was saying that no nurses would come to help him b/c they were afraid they might get sick. I was lucid all this time but I had no control. Then Brent(?) said he was there b/c he had a brain tumor. Which alarmed me a bit considering he was supposedly my subconscious. I hope to meet him again...I still don't know if it really was my subconscious or just a really bizarre lucid dream. But he told me to call on him whenever I was having trouble...if only I could be sure of his name.

I kept going in and out of lucidity for quite awhile. At one point I was in a school building running up the stairs, being chased by soldiers with guns. I was hiding. I remember thinking that this was absurd b/c I was lucid yet I had no control and it was really frustrating. At one point I made it out onto the roof and the city I was in was one like I have never seen before. It looked like something out of a creepy Tiim Burton movie. All the cathedrals were really oddly shaped, the houses were all slanty. I can't explain it, but it was neat. Anyway...I wanted to fly...or even do anything, but I couldn't. Frustrated...I woke up.

Spoiler for Dream Sharing Castle Courtyard & Talking To the Pope with a Booger in My Nose - 4/2/05:

Well I decided to make this entry dark blue because I was able to make my dream sharing target appear...even though he has no dream recall from last night. I don't remember how or why I became lucid, in fact, I forget alot of what happened so it might seem a bit disjointed but here it is as far as I can remember. I realized I was in a dream...it was a bit overcast out and I was in some sort of castle like structure...there was thick, cold stone walls everywhere, but alot of light pouring inside. I was with some people, I forget who. Immediately I thought to go and search for my dream sharing target, Howetzer. I tried several different methods to make him appear...which is probably where I messed up. I guess I was trying to conjur him in my dream instead of actually making a portal into his dream, as has been suggested by Gothlark. Anyway, I remember running around the corridors yelling for him to appear. I was calling out his name very loudly...I guess I thought if I yelled loud enough he might really hear me and maybe become lucid...or find me. I was just about to give up, I walked out into this courtyard of this huge castle. There awas a fountain there. I was walking along this stone path into the courtyard...when there he was, walking on the same path out onto the courtyard perpendicular to me. I was so excited to see him I started running and so did he and he grabbed me and gave me a huge hug. We sat down on the stone fountain in the middle of the courtyard. I don't know why I didn't think to tell him that he was dreaming...I think that maybe something inside me thought he already knew? But this DC did not seem to have as much as a presence around him, although there was SOMETHING there. Things get a little blurry after this...I know we kissed a little bit and embraced...I remember asking him if he wanted to try April's lucid task. The next thing I remember I was standing on top of that huge castle structure with a parachute on. Jason was no where to be found. Anyway, I completed this month's lucid task.

I know I had another big dream that I remember that I became lucid in after this, but right now I can't remember. Hopefully something, or someone can jog my memory.

HA! Ok...as I was blowing my nose (how strange) I totally remembered the other dream. I wasn't lucid but it was really long and bizarre. I was with a group of kids and we were at this weird/twisty camp. I can't remember everything exactly but there was surfing...they were also making a movie on site. Anyway, I was in my room back in Chicago. My dad was in town visiting and was staying in some hotel, except the hotel and the place where I was staying was all the same building. And all the rooms shifted around. And in order to get from one room to the other you had to go through an obstacle (if anyone has seen The Cube they might know what I mean). Anyway, I was on the phone with my Dad at like 6, and I told him I was going to nap and meet up with him at like 10 b/c he wanted to go to the casino. Once it came time to go and get my dad I walked out of my room and there was this spinning structure that I had to walk along. There were alot of other people there too, falling off of it. And you had to duck while you were spinning in order to avoid the lasers above your head. (Anyone who has seem Most Extreme Elimination Challenge might know what I'm talking about). Anyway, I fell...and there were demons in the water that I fell into...there were little kids chained up. And from here...suddenly I was outside, but my face was all messed up. I was sitting in McDonalds. The Pope, yes that's right, the Pope was sitting across from me. Anyway, my face was all scary and swollen and I went to the bathroom (which was co-ed ) and I had a booger hanging out of my nose. I remember thinking that how embarassing it was that I was talking to the Pope and I had a booger hanging out of my nose. Anyway...that's all I remember for now. Funny shit though.

Spoiler for Lucid Task - Speak To Dolphin - 4/10/05:

Well I just woke up from a nap, so please excuse any typos.

I layed down to nap and regained consciousness in the vibrational state...it felt like I had to wait through HI for a really long time which was very annyoing because I knew that any moment I would become lucid but I just had to wait...wait...wait. Anyway...once I became lucid I tried to make a portal into someone's dream...but seeing as how it was 2pm they were most likely not asleep so the portal ended up just putting me right back into my own dream. There wasn't all that much going on so I was determined to complete March's lucid task...since for some reason that is the only one I have not been able to accomplish. Anyway...the house I was at was on the ocean and there was a big area for boats to dock. I was flying above the ocean and I saw a group of dolphins swimming in the ocean. Then I realized that there was one dolphin stuck in the area where the boats dock. I fly down and got into the water. The dolphin swam up to me and poked her head out of the water..."Hi!" I said...expecting her to swim away as all the other dolphins I've tried to talk to, but she just said "Hi, I'm Molly." Then I asked her if she needed help getting back to her family...and she did. So I put my arm around her and fly up out of the water and over to where her family was and dropped her off. It was rather nice. She was very grateful. Anyway...I know it's way past due but at least I finally did the task! Yey!

Spoiler for Chicago Skydiving (Lucid) - 4/12/05:

Well today I took a nap around 1:30-2pm. Became lucid sometime during that period. I was in and out of lucid for awhile...don't really remember much. Pretty much doing what I typically do while lucid. Experiments, etc.

I was in some train in Chicago watching the city/scenery go by when I remembered that I didn't actually accomplish this month's lucid task by jumping out of an airplane. So as I was sitting there trying to figure out how I would get onto an airplane suddenly it got kinda dark and this door opened up behind me and it was super bright. I looked around and all of a sudden I was in an airplane. There were a bunch of people there in skydiving outfits, I was so excited! We we zooming along the runway...I remember sticking my head out the open door and feeling the wind whipping past my face. It brought me to an even higher level of lucidity. Anyway, it took FOREVER to take off. Probably b/c I kept expecting it. So I went over to one of the cute guy DCs and was like, hey let's pass the time until this thing gets up into the air! So we did haha (I'm so terrible I always take adantage of my DCs) and finally the plane was up! But it didn't get up very high. We were cruising at about the level of the Chicago skyline for a whiile and I was starting to get really annoyed. I kept poking my head out of the door to feel the cold wind everytime I felt like I was losing lucidity and it kept working to make everything more realistic. Anyway, the plane wasn't going any higher, and to the instructors horror I decided to just jump out there. It was amazing!!! So much different than jumping off the castle. I free fell for awhile which was really awesome and then pulled on this cord which jerked me up into the air and I parachuted down. I think I came out of it just as I was landing. Fun times! Free falling in lucids is almost as much fun as flying!!

Spoiler for Remote Viewing Dream Sharing Target, Confronting Myself, The Portal - 4/19/05:

Last night was pretty intense. I fell asleep with the intention to WILD around 1:30 am....I awoke in the same position, on my back...about 5am. I blew out the candles and said hell with it. That's when the real magic began. I had one really long LD from about 5am - 8am...I was lucid pretty much the whole time although at some points I had full control and other times it was almost like watching a movie.

My first instinct once I began lucid was to seek out my dream sharing target. I think this lucid came about as a result of an FA and I walked to my bedroom door and opened it with the intention of opening a door into Howetzer's dream. But instead there was a hallway with lots of people in it that I didn't know. I remember calling for him. But couldn't find anyone, it was dark and sort of blurry. Then I had another FA. This one was REALLY bizarre because I saw myself get out of bed and go to the door. It was like I was watching myself from my bed and I knew what the other me was doing. Frustrated I ran up to the other me, turned me around and slapped her (the other me) up against the door. I looked into her eyes...which were my eyes (THIS WAS REALL CREEPY) and I said..."We WILL find Jason" She looked back at me with this evil look in her eyes and smiled and then her face began to change. Someone was struggling to get through. Suddenly I was in a restaurant or dining hall of some sort. Jason was there in a black suit and his wife was there wearing a white dress. Almost like from their wedding pictures. I remember that they were talking and he was wearing this watch that had a black band and a gold ring around the face. I noted it's signficance although I don't know what that would be. They couldn't see me, it was just like watching a movie. They were sitting at a round table. I felt like I was watching someone else's dream. Eventually the scene faded. I didn't know how else to reach him. I wanted to try one last thing. I went into my backyard and flew up into the sky until the whole earth just looked like a marble, then I dove down...trying to remember that satelite image, thinking that I could find Howetzer's house and visit him there...I'm not sure what happened. I don't think I ever made it there. Eventually I gave up on the target, mostly from frustration b/c my attempts were not really getting me anywhere. So I tried to fly...but I couldn't. I've never really had a problem with flying. I could do alot of other things, like run up trees and stuff so I just sort of had fun for the rest of my LD.

I also had a few non lucids that I remember after this one long lucid. I won't go into as much detail. In the one dream my sister was getting married (very strange seeing as how she is 24 and has never even had a serious boyfriend). She was wearing a light green dress and I was wearing a white dress (again, strange)...I remember our shoes were important, we meticulously picked out our shoes. During the ceremony something went wrong and they had to start over. It was sort of like an "edit, undo" thing. Weird. Too much computer. My other dream was that I was pledge leader of a group of new Kappa members and I had just initiated them. I haven't been active in my sorority in awhile so it makes me wonder why I would have such a detailed dream about it at this time. Well that's all I got for now...I'll probably remember more later.

Since I did not have a lucid dream or anydream I can recall, I thought it would make more sense to post directly in relation to aquanina's Dream.

Since there is no real corralation that i can see, I will post these as mere oddities, for a lack of a better word.

First my oddity. I could not get to sleep this same night. I have had (HI) ever since I can remember. And very vivid at times. As I was a bout ro finally drift into sleep The most vivid in your face, loud evasive image yelled in my face "WAKE UP!"
This startled the crap out of me. It was Two A.M. It was as real as if a normal person had just yelled in my face. The character was a man.
Although we have no idea where time really fits into place with dream sharing, I thought that it may still may hold some relivance. Aquanina and I were not in concert as far as time goes with this event. If that matters.... I don't know.

Originally posted by aquania
I remember that they were talking and he was wearing this watch that had a black band and a gold ring around the face. I noted it's signficance although I don't know what that would be. They couldn't see me, it was just like watching a movie. They were sitting at a round table

Odd that both incidents accured in the same sentence.
The oddities;
My wife and I had recently purchased a round table. I was not all that fond of getting a new one. When we did, I agreed it was "cool". Like knights sitting at the round table, I replied.
The other is the fact that she has no eveidence of me having a watch to mine or her knowlwdge.
The watch she describes is Identical to the one I have. And the only one.

Spoiler for Sexy Lucid Nap; guys working in the yard outside my window and neighbor's swimming pool - 5/7/05:

Ok well I just woke up from a nap so please excuse any typos.

Anyway...all this talk about "sci-fis" made me want to see if I could try one. So from sp I struggled and fought and was able to get up out of bed. But I wasn't wearing any robe, in fact I was naked...and I couldn't turn my head around to see if I had a double laying in bed. It just resulted in one of those weird fake OBE-type things that I don't like because everything feels really heavy and I can barely move or do anything...so I went back to my bed. I tried again. Same thing happend.

Finally somehow I was standing in my room by my bed and I turned to look at my bed. I slowly walked up to see if anyone was there sleeping...and there I was!! I sat down on the bed and woke the other me up. She sat up and looked at me, sort of tired. I talked to her a little bit. I put my hand up b/c I said, I wonder if I can feel you. And when she put her hand up to mine it just went right through, like a ghost. It was really bizarre. Anyway I realized that she didn't know any more about lucid dreaming than I did (after all, she was me) so I figured I'd stop wasting my time and try to go outside and fly around.

I realized there was a screen in my window, so I fused through that (again, really cool experience). There were several guys outside working on our lawn...mostly trimming the edges and stuff. I saw this one guy who was GORGEOUS. He had an amazing body...blonde wavy hair...actually he looked alot like this guy (who is a Calvin Klein model I had the good luck to meet once at a photoshoot in Chicago) Anyway I tried to get his attention without letting the other workers knows.

Finally he saw me and he was like "is there anything I can do for you?" And I took him uder our deck and he was laughing, saying "I've been working on your yard all day, I'm all sweaty and I smell." And I was like...it's ok that's really sexy and started making out with him. But then I was like, oh...you are right you are dirty and do kinda smell. So I suggested we go to the neighbors pool and go for a swim

I didn't want his other workers to see for some reason so we had to sneak around a bit, and by the time we made it the pool for some reason it was getting sort of dark out. He took off his shirt and his jeans and I was like OMG. He had the most amazing body. Then jumped in the pool. I took off my clothes and dipped my toes in the water. It was freezing! I think maybe the shock woke me up (god damnit). Anyway, I woke up and tried to go back into that dream and I sort of made it back there, I saw him floating on a raft in the pool, but these annoying seinfeld quotes kept coming into my head and annoying me. Eventually I realized that it wasn't going to happen and just let myself wake up.

DAMNIT!

Spoiler for Lucid Task, Bobbing For Apples:

Well I finally managed to get some sleep while I was rendering something out that took 6 hours (for 10 seconds of animation ). Anyway, I haven't been sleeping much lately but I was lucky enough to have a lucid this morning.

I was driving along side a big lake or ocean or something and going around these bends, and was losing control of the car more and more. Finally as I was flying around one bend the car left the road and went flying off the side and over the water.Right away I realized that I must be dreaming and became lucid...so I ditched the car and continued to fly over the water for some time.

Finally I landed, and wondered what to do when I remembered this month's lucid task of bobbing for apples so I decided I'd try it. Where I landed I was near the water, under the shade of a tree and I turned around and there was a large assortment of apples set up like you would see at an outdoor marketplace. So I had the apples, but I looked around and couldn't find a big tub of water to put them in. All I could find was this big round tray that was only a few inches deep. I looked all over and tried to make a big tub or cooler or something appear but there was nothing. So I grabbed the tray, took it to the water and filled it up with water. Then I went and picked out a bunch of apples from the assortment and placed them in the tray. So they were just sitting there in a few inches of water, which sort of defeats the whole purpose of bobbing for apples.

So finally I decided I would try to extrude the tray (3d term) to make it deeper and it worked! Finally I had something that I could bob for apples in...but then I had to go and get more water and I guess the task just became too arduous or boring or what because I said, eh screw it and abandoned my attempts.

This next dream wasn't lucid. I was leaving the club with some friends and I had driven my mom's car and parked it on the street. I hit the unlock/automatic startup button (which my mom's car doesn't actually have but it did in my dream for some reason) and turned around to say something to a friend who was staggering a bit behind us...drunk. When I turned my head back the car was gone. My friends and I began to freak out and couldn't figure out where my car had gone to. Then these guys on the corner were like "oh we saw some couple get into it, they just took off". I freaked out and went running down the street to try to catch up with them. I was running down all these alleys looking for the car when my friend called my cell phone and told me that they brought the car back.

I ran back to where they all were and there was this couple (obviously drunk) and the girl was like, haha I'm so sorry I thought it was my car! Well I became furious and started yelling at her and saying that she was an idiot and that her shitty SUV looked nothing like my mom's Mercedes SUV, and that I should call the police on her and all this stuff. She sat down and started crying. Her boyfriend or whatever started walking towards me like he was going to hit me or something and then started yelling stuff at me. Suddenly...I don't know if I became lucid or not but I remembered what Leo Volont had said about treating the characters in your dreams and I realized that I was seriously over reacting. So I said...ok...it's ok...and I went over and consoled the girl and apologized. Then I think we got in the car and left...it gets sorta blurry from there.

Spoiler for Shattered Glass and Bouncing Around:

Well my overall recall is a bit blurry b/c I was wasted last night and came home and passed out but I do know that I had at least 2 lucids.

I'm not sure how it starts, I was climbing these stairs with two of my friends and they began to get extremely steep and started winding around. We would climb up one set and then there was a landing area, then we would go up another set..the stairs were metalic and had all these holes in them and were bright red or green or other bright colors. It got to the point where we couldn't go any further and were stuck on this landing. Then we realized that we could turn the landing, almost like one would control a wind surfer...so we started to move the "sail" so that it would reach this other set of stairs.

Eventually we made it to wherever we were trying to get to and I don't remember what made me lucid this time but I just realized that something wasn't right. I grabbed my two friends and whispered to them...do you guys realize that this is just a dream? Their faces were expressionless. I said, watch this, and I started running towards this huge glass window, but I had a feeling I wasn't going to go through (lately I've been having a problem going through glass in my lucids I don't know why)...so I stopped and shattered the glass with my elbow. Then I jumped out the window and took flight. I was only flying for a little bit and a few thoughts came into my mind about what I should do...one was to find my dream sharing target...but there has been another thing that I have been wanting to try ever since a member here suggested I try it.

I stopped flying around and began to say the Hail Mary...trying to remember the words and repeating it slowly...I began to slowly float down in a large spiral pattern...I put my hands together in prayer form and continued...but I just kept floating around in this spiral and couldn't really see much...so I decided to switch to another prayer. I began to say the Lord's prayer...and I was saying this prayer I began to slowly float up in the similar spiral pattern but there was a wall in front of me with writing and images all over it. There was text, and symbols...but I can't remember what they were and I know I didn't particularly know what they all meant while I was dreaming either. I'm not sure where things went from there.

This other dream I wasn't lucid. I was again with my two friends and we were working these wedding parties in this really insanely expensive high class hotel (like nothing you could imagine). The fist party we all worked together. There were some other people from my class working there as well. Then the boss split us up and I went and worked this Irish wedding alone and the people were really nice and it was alot of fun. And then I went and worked this Italian wedding party...which was extremely extravagant and I remember that they treated me like family. I met back up with my friends to tell them about the awesome time I was having. We were supposed to meet up with some guys in the hotel room and they went to meet them. I'm not sure what happened to me but for some reason I started to bounce when I walked. I bouncing got really bad, I can't really explain it...so I went into one of the gift shops b/c people were starting to give me weird looks. I bounced into the gift shop and pretened to be looking at stuff...I was holding onto the shelves and stuff and still bouncing like an accordian. Then I was like...what the hell. This is insane why didn't I realize this was a dream a long time ago. And I made myself wake up.

Spoiler for Our Father Lucid Prayer:

Well I just woke up from a nap (isn't this how alot of my entries start out?). Anyways...I have been wanting to experiment more with prayers in my lucids.

This dream I was in my house, with someone...I can't remember exactly who but we found out that we were being invaded by aliens. I think I might have been lucid the whole time but I wanted to go along with the dream for a bit because it seemed interesting enough. Me and whoever I was with (I think it was my ex-bf) hid under my sisters bed in her otherwise empty bedroom. Eventually they came and I could hear them outside and breaking into our house...they were walking around, searching for people to exterminate. They came in the bedroom where we were hiding but quickly left and they all went upstairs. I got bored and left the room and went about in my lucid state.

I wanted to try a few different things, but first I tried the Our Father, once again, since I seemed to have alot of luck with that the first time. I went outside my house and sort of began to fly over the golf course in my backyard, but I wasn't having much luck this time. Then I began to say Om Mani Padme Hum...which I must say, gave me an extremely calming feeling and allowed for greater lucidity. I was able to fuse through glass without breaking it, or trying too hard, it just happened. I flew around for a bit and then thought I would try the Lord's Prayer once more. This time I eventually got caught in that same...slow spiral where I was just floating there...but instead of seeing a wall...there was a montage of images before me. Several images of houses...I don't know what or where they were, and then it settled upon an image of an old somewhat dilapidated white chapel. It had a large stained glass rose window. This image stayed there for awhile...it was more like watching something in a theater than being in a lucid, I couldn't GO anywhere I was just observing.

Then from this chapel it went straight to this young, beautiful woman. She had really flowy medium length hair, very light brown, almost like a dirty blonde if I remember right. She was very beautiful but she was distressed. She was running down a long hospital corridor almost in slow motion. It was almost as if the camera angle that I was seeing her at was just a few feet in front of her, pointed at her face the entire time she was running down the hall. Then she stopped at someone's bedside. I couldn't see anthing but her face. She looked SO sad. I think either someone very close to her had died or was very sick. That's all I remember from that part of my lucid. I don't know what if anything this means...or why I would even see this in my lucid dream. Quite strange. I don't know anyone who looks like her.

Originally posted by Leo Volent
Dear Aquanina,

Wow, to have such a command over your dream memory... I suppose your Dream Self may have been practicing while you've been awake. The Waking Self and the Dream Self are more as though being parallel Selves than being the same Self, and often the things of the Waking World evoke very little enthusiasm from the Dream Self. But your Dream Self is fluent in Mantras and Prayers. I'm more impressed with you everyday.

The montage of houses and chapels may represent established souls. Along with Christ speaking of \"many mansions\" we also have the recurrent dream symbologies of the Higher Self being represented by buildings of one form or another. The While Chapel of Rose Windows is not only a Spiritually Enlightened person, but one whose appearance matches their inner state. But not BIG, but good. And old -- the dilapidation.

The young girl may be a symbol of the Blessed Virgin, or, for the pagans who are more comfortable with the old 'speak', a young Demeter-Persephone. The World is now in critical condition and the Goddess is now acting with urgency and is most sad.

Spoiler for Facing Jesus Through the Mirror and The Afterlife - 5-21-05:

Gosh I'm on a roll. Well, that and I've been napping alot trying to make up for lost sleep time. Anyway, I became lucid...not really sure where I was...I think it was another unintentional WILD as most of my lucids are. I was in some dark room and there were alot of people there. I was with this one dream character and I remember once I became lucid he kept trying to make out with me and have sex with me. I was hesitant because of everyone around so we walked around the corner and into this short hallway that had a large stone wall at the end of it. On the walls of the hallway were these symbols mounted on them. Each one had markings and carvings on it and they all said something. I tried really really hard to read and remember what they said. One of them I remember had three square diamond jewels and a name, but I forget the name. It was quite distracting, because as I was trying to read these markings I also had this DC that was trying to get me to make out with him and I had to keep pushing him away.

I walked a little further down the hallway to the next symbold thing that was mounted there. They were all similarly mounted...I'll try to draw what they looked like. This one in particular had writing written on glass protruding from the wall. It said something along the lines of "he who sees the face in the wall may be allowed to pass through". At first I didn't understand. Then I looked toward the stone wall at the end at the end of the room and noticed that it had turned into a giant mirror.

Me and the DC slowly walked up to the mirror. I remember standing there for a minute staring at ourselves in the mirror. My DC (Ameer) said, I don't see any face and began to walk away. Wait...I said. And as I walked closer I began to see something strange in the mirror. Suddenly my reflection began to change...and it changed into a man...a man that looked a lot like the western depiction of what Jesus looked like. I remember I was talking out loud a lot through out this whole dream. And I remember looking at this man and asking him if he would let me through...begging him to take my hands. I put my hands out and asking him to pull me through the mirror. I was expecting for his hands to come and pull me through but instead everything flashed to white very suddenly...and I was in this hallway that had a door at the end. It was a short hallway, and the door was cracked open a tiny bit. I walked toward the door and again this bright white light filled my eyes and my heart and I was blinded. It was brighter than anything I've ever seen before.

Eventually once I got outside the door my eyes began to adjust and I took flight. I flew over forests and forests, streams, meadows...it was all so beautiful. The smell was intoxicating. It smelled like beautiful flowers in the springtime. Then suddenly I came upon fields and fields of children...they were all playing. There was baseball games, soccer games, they were running, swimming...and they were all extremely happy just being children. As I was flying over all of them I felt this great sense of childlike playfulness and I turned over and began to fly upsidedown. I had only done this once before...but WOW such a dizzy rush, flying with your chest facing the sky and your head tilted back so that you can see the ground whizzing by below you! I turned rightside up again and began to wonder where everyone else was.

I continued to fly through the dreamscape and came upon all these houses...apartments, college houses, universities. Where everyone was outside either playing volleyball, grilling out, partying, drinking, having fun...I yelled down at them WOOHOO!! And they yelled back, cheering me on! It was great!

I didn't make it any further before I began to lose lucidity...but the strange thing was that as I was losing lucidity, it wasn't just fading out, it was as if I was being pulled, very fast, back to where I started. I was yanked back through that mirror before I was able to wake up. I got the feeling that in that place, wherever or whatever it was...you could pick your age, or stage in life and enjoy it for as long as you wanted. And then you could move onto another stage, or go back and be a child again. It was a wonderful place and I'll never forget it.

EDIT: oh yeah, when I woke up I noticed that the triangular symbol on my hand had began to peel off...and so I started picking at it and it peeled right off...now it's gone, except for a little scar.

Dear Aquanina,

You got through!

The interplay with sexuality illustrates exactly the point I try to make about sex -- that it is not so much that it is evil or immoral as that it is a huge distraction -- that people can make sex the priority goal of their lives while ignoring everything else. It was remarkable you were able to keep your head. Most guys would have lost it almost immediately.

Then we have the Paradox of the Mirror, which typically is supposed to show the Personality Self as the Self, but in the Higher Spiritual Context would of course depict the Cosmic Christ -- the Collective Being who is the Life in All things.

From there you passed into the Unmodified White Light, which then you needed to put into some symbolic expression so that you would be able to return with some kind of coherent Narrative. In this I like your aesthetic taste -- to depict the substance of the White Light of God as children in play and break time on the University Campus. Looking back on my life, I think you got it right -- childhood at play and College.

Now I wonder how you felt afterward. You were totally immersed in the White Light. That should have transferred quite a buzz to your Chakras. You should still feel it. do you?

Originally posted by Leo Volont
Now I wonder how you felt afterward. You were totally immersed in the White Light. That should have transferred quite a buzz to your Chakras. You should still feel it. do you?

I definitely had a "buzz" for awhile after I woke up...but I guess it has faded with the memory of the dream as most feelings do. But I do remember how strongly it felt in my dream...and how real everything was. I haven't really had any experience of chakras. I have a general knowledge of what they are but am not sure about any sort of "feelings" in them...or why I would have a feeling in them because of this dream.

Concerning the Wall of God

Originally posted by Leo Volont
Dear Aquanina,

You have caught me in demonstating my slowness of thought, or perhaps I had to make my Sunday rounds in order to finally run into the right places for Inspiration. What the Cathedral couldn't do for me was almost instantly done as I walked into my small jungle church -- The Church of the Immaculate Conception. Suddenly it occurred to me almost like looking at a picture that I had arranged for your sponsorship and sent you quite into this Avenue of Heaven -- you found the same vortex that I found, and then, being expected, was given a new opportunity with the inspiration of using the \"Our Father\" Prayer which brought you to the Wall of God. Well, it occurred to me that whereas I may be akin to something of a physical archetype of a Wise Old Man for you, then you to me may be a variety of an Archetype of a young Goddess Oracle. So when you come to me and tell me that in my own stomping grounds where I had sent you, you have found the Very Wall of God, I think I better take it as advice to find my way there myself!

You see, this is how important it may be. One of my favorite Saints, Old Shirdi Sai Baba, used to speak of The Wall that separates us from God -- the Wall that separates the Particular Individual Self from the Collective and Universal Over-Self. His advice was to punch a hole in the Thing.

Which suggests what the lettering and graphics on The Wall may have suggested. The same inspiration that brought all of the rest of this into focus was telling me that the Writing on The Wall would have been along the lines of a cryptic \"he who breaches this Wall dies\", meaning that God would sweep away any ego that would pierce that Ultimate Separation. I'd say its worth taking a crack at it!

I should be somewhat spiritually prepared for it. Last year I had a dream in which I was crucified three times -- the first time with great fear and reluctance, the second time with some measure of courageous resignation, and the third time as though going to a much desired rest. After a Dream like that, you are ready to punch That Wall, no?

Besides, it seems right. There is a certain amount of synchronity going on. Typically goddess oracles have pointed the Way in most every aspect of my Spiritual Life, and now a Catholic Girl bred by the Holy Land points me to this Wall of God.

Looks like I got myself a Spiritual Quest! Wish me luck.

Yes actually I do remember having some trouble remembering the words to the Our Father...so I went through it very slowly and I think I even had to start over a few times before I got it right. I'm not sure if I made it through the whole prayer or not, or if I kept starting over when I began to slowly spiral back up through the ground with this wall in front of me.

And when I say spiral, it was more like I was floating around in this huge circular pattern that was going upwards very very slowly...nothing like a vortex whooshing me up or down anywhere fast...my spiral was extremely slow. The wall had appeared to be very very old...all I could see of it was what was spot lighted, as if I had a flashlight aimed onto the wall, cutting through the blackness that surrounded me. and the writings on the wall almost looked like cave paintings in their age, but much more detailed. There were also framed paintings on the wall but I cannot remember what they were of. I could have reached out and touched the wall it was so close to me...but I kept my hands in the praying position and just simply observed. It was so old and deteriorating...yet still had some new elements, like the framed paintings.

Originally posted by Leo Volont

Wow.

As an Artist, the Wall of God was the Wall that would hang every significant piece of Art Work in the History of the World.. of Creation.

I'm plugging away with the suggestions to do the Our Father in hopes that I might follow in your footsteps, but it is likely that I will 'see' This Wall as something different.

But as you are an Artist and a Visionary, it is difficult to overestimate the significance of having been where you've been.

Anyway, my suggestion have been good for my subtle kundalini. You know, I do wonder sometimes whether the Dreams of the Dreamer go on even while we are awake -- that our Dream Self could certainly keep on going, on automatic pilot, even without the participation of our personalities awareness and facilities of memory. So there are feelings I get through the day which may be my Dreamer being able to tap into certain spiritual assets at my suggestions and behest. But still, I hope my Dreamer beats a path to those Higher Realms, so that it will be easy to find, and familiar enough so that Memory may be able to comprehend something of it all.

That is the problem with things Spiritual. In order to remember anything, the Mind needs to be able to assign some sort of Symbol or Concept that will be able to express some translation of what is essentially ineffable.

I'm well read enough, and have seen enough movies, and have been exposed to some art. When confronted with the Spiritual, unless it is entirely overwhelming, I should come back with some Metaphor or Analogy that could be able to hint at that Ultimate Truth.

Spoiler for Bloody Prom Dress Saved By Lucidity - 5/27/05:

I'm going to keep this one short...b/c the lucid was short and it has to do with some female issues heh.

Anyway as corny as it sounds I was at a restaurant with a big group of people and we were all going to prom. I had on an awesome dress, I don't even know who my date was...and the people were from grade school (strange). Anyway blood started dripping down my leg and I was like fuck and I went to the bathroom to clean myself off but it was all over my dress and I couldn't go back out there and face everyone and be really embarassed. So I found a back way out of the restaurant and starting walking down these stairs that were spiraling and lighting up as I stepped on them...then I was like...HA! there's no way this can be real. And I went lucid immediately. Which was great, b/c in my dream I felt awful but once I became lucid I put myself into an even prettier dress and walked back to where all my friends were and hung out with them a bit. Then I went for a little flight. I think I got lost downtown...and sorta faded out of lucidity and into a normal dream. That's about it.

Cool dream last night, I don't fee like explaining it all so...to help me remember:

Circle, deja vu, town, the ring, cemetery, old men, putting dogs to sleep, win something, going to the store, getting pasta, playing with christmas decorations, going through the house, the painting changes, the book, flipping through the pages, its all happened before...why didnt I become lucid, the dog's name, calling for him through the mosoluems, something wrong with the town, how did I end up there, who were these people

Spoiler for Lucid Task of the Month "Who Am I?" and Conversation with a Spirit Mouse - 6/29/05:

Getting back to a normal sleep schedule just these past few days has done wonders for my dreaming. I just really need to stop being so lazy and write down my lucids during the night so that I don't forget them by morning. I know I spent most of the night last night lucid...I think I had about 5 or 6 lucids but only remember having them and only remember bits and pieces of each.

The first thing I can remember there was something happening and I was in this big hall and everyone was running around...some sort of nightmare though I don't know or remember what everyone was running around for. For some reason I stopped and realized I was dreaming. I yelled out to everyone and they all came and stood around me. I remember it was mostly guys and a few women but I didn't recognize any of them. I told them all to gather round because I had something to ask. They looked at me intently. "Who am I?" I asked. HA! I didn't realize my dream characters were such asses (well actually they usually are)...but I got alot of strange replies. Some of them just grumbled and rolled their eyes and walked away...one of them yelled out "who cares!", someone yelled out "Halloween!". It was a bunch of nonsense. I wandered away from them...disappointed.

As I was walking away I saw a mouse running by. It stopped just in front of me. "Who am I?" I asked the mouse. In this tiny cute little mouse voice it replied..."You are me." I remember being confused and asked how this could be. The mouse replied "We are the same. I am not so small as you think." Then it scurried away.

I remember thinking that it was quite a smart little mouse. But it is strange that a mouse was the one to give me any sort of comprehensible answer to my question. Then I remembered a few months ago...

I had been seeing a little mouse scurrying about our tv room in the basement. It would make a bolt from a little area under the tv and under the door and into the unfinished area of our basement where there was alot of boxes and storage and such. I told my dad about it and he set up a few mouse traps. I pleaded with him to get humane mouse traps but since he didn't know what they were he said he didn't care. Then one night I was watching tv/on the computer when I heard the SNAP. My heart sunk. I have always loved animals...big and small. I got up and opened the door to the unfinished area of the basement, turned the light on and saw that there was a little gray mouse in the trap...it was squashed at the neck...the trap nearly took its head off. I was horrified...but I walked closer and noticed its little body still struggling for breath. I couldn't believe it was still alive! I wanted to do something...I wanted to lift the trap and let it run off (though its neck was obviously crushed this would have done no good). I sat down beside it and a little drop of blood fell out of its ears...its soft little body still moving up and down.

I was crying...telling the mouse inside my head that I was sorry and that I wished it no pain. I sat there for about 10 minutes watching that little mouse suffer and die.

Spoiler for Flying Contraption - 7/10/05:

No lucids lately but my dream recall is getting a bit better at least.

Lately for some reason I've been having dreams about miniature animals. Weird. LIke mini kangaroos and stuff. Last night I dreamed about kittens...we were looking to buy one or something. My dog fell off my backyard (there was a cliff or something ) so we decided to get a kitten? wtf.

Anyway I had the craziest/coolest dream last night but I don't know why the hell I didn't become lucid. I had a flying contraption...it was a see through shield type of thing that I held onto with two handles...it was a shield type of thing in order to prevent bugs from smashing up against me when I was flying super fast lmao. It was bendy and flexible at least though and it would let me fly like superman style real fast (I'd have to be wearing gloves so bugs wouldn't splatter on my hands as I was holding the handles of the shield ) and it would let me fly above people's heads and just hover and manuever really well. I was at some party and I fly above all these people to get to the bathroom. I was the only one cool enough to have a flying contraption o_o ...and then I would say...hover...and it would let me hover over the seat and pee lmao. Really weird. Then I went to this concert that was in a gymnasium and it sucked. I saw my friend on stage (a really big dude) and told him to fling me out into the audience as far as he could. So he grabbed my arm and my leg and twirled me around a few times and flung me out over the audience....where I hovered for a bit. Then flew back and was like...ooo do it again. Really stupid. Anyway I don't know why the hell I didn't become lucid during this dream. I almost feel like I knew that I was dreaming the whole time. I even designed the flying device myself...but why didn't I become lucid. Who knows...

Ok another vivid and weird dream last night but no lucidity, I feel like my mind is playing tricks on me to see how freakin ABSURD my dreams can actually get without sparking a lucid.

There was a guy chasing me up and down like a bunch of floors of this one apartment building...I won't get too detailed but I'm not sure if he wanted to kill me or rape me or both. Anyway somethings weren't working right so I would like...edit...undo them...like real absurd shit. But nooo lucid. Anyway he finally caught me and tried to rape me, but then I didn't want him to kill me so I pretended to like it. Then I actually DID like it. Then we started dating I think. Really weird shit...

*nina mumbles about something and slowly trails off...*