Originally Posted by Neruo
It is kind of silly that every country has a totally different school system in some way. So, for great justice, lets compare school systems and laugh at Germany that count backward with grades (1= best, 10 = worst).
And now: The GREAT DUTCH SCHOOL SYSTEM
Nursery(?) school:
2 years (called 'group 1/2' of playing around with blocks and trains. Some dozen years ago it got implemented in elementary school. Ages: 4-5
Elementary school (aka "basis school"):
6 years of learning how to write, calculate and learn about cows and countries. Each year is called 'group n+2'. lol. That actually just means it starts at group 2 and ends at group 8. Because of the 'group 1/2' before it. I don't count it as the same system because playing with blocks isn't school. Ages: 6-12
High school: When children are done with elementary school, they (their parents) can choose a high school. Often in group 8 of elementary school, children take a national test, the 'cito-test' to see how retarded they really are. There are different levels of schools in the Netherlands.
- Schools I don't know the name of, you have to be rather stupid to be on these, or blind or retared, and probably learn to glue sticks to rocks. Age: 13-..? But probably most people on such schools are older when they get there, because they have been hold back in elementary school.
- VMBO : The average in the Netherlands. A 4-year education. I don't really know how it works, I guess some people just work at McDonalds or in a shop or become car mechanic after this. Age: 13-16
- HAVO: Above average, not bad. 5 years of eduction. More theoretical then VMBO. Ages: 13-17.
- VWO: The highest level of schools. 6 years of education. There is a sub-division in the VWO, however the only real difference is that 'Gymnasium' (nothing to do with sports) has Greek and Latin and 'Atheneum' does not. ages: 13-18.
After high school:
VMBO --> MBO : 2 years of profession-orientated education. I think car-mechanic is such a study, or cook or something.
HAVO --> HBO: Pretty decent 3/4-year eduction, stuff varying from nursing to biochemistry and electronics.
VWO --> University: 4-5 years of universal education. Very theoretical. Full of smart people, or at least, that is the idea.
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YEAH.
That took long. Ah well. Isn't it interesting to know? By the way, if I have made a mistake somewhere, feel free to correct me.[/b]
Not be to be a wise ass but it sounds like your speaking down on some of the 'lower' levels of schooling so let me rephrase your post in a less crude fashion hehe
Dutch secondary school and post-secondary school system:
The school you dont know the name of: This isnt for 'retarded' or 'stupid' people. Its just for people who need a little extra guidance and help from their teachers. Often people who need to be motivated or have problems at home. Just dont say theyre retarded because theyre really not. As for blind people, they dont go here, unless they fall into that category. Blind people usually attend to a special institute in their primary school days, after which they move on to regular secondary school. Quite often HAVO or VWO. Because blind people arn't retarded
VMBO: This is actually a really broad level of education. VMBO is split up into 4 different levels, from really practical, vocational training to more theory heavy training. The ones attending the 4th level of VMBO often goe to HAVO afterwards. VMBO is not for dumb people either. Its for people who prefer learning more about a job than studying lots of theory. After attending one of the levels of VMBO, or a part of HAVO, students generally move to 'MBO' which is vocational training.
HAVO/VWO: you said it
MBO: Vocational training split up into 4 levels yet again. These are the 4st four levels of post-secondary school training. HBO being the 5th, and university the 6th. MBO isnt just people who work at mcdonalds or car mechanics, there are actually quite some talented people there. MBO (especially on lvl 4) actually delivers managers (bedrijfsleiders), nurses, social workers and proffesional soldiers and police officers. DEfinitely not mcjob or unimportant Id say. After completing mbo lvl 4, a student can attend college (HBO, higher vocational training). It takes between 1 and 4 years depending on the level.
HBO: 4 years of training. You become a bachelor of arts of science afterwards, after 2 more years you can get a master degree. After one year of hbo one can also attend university if desired.
University: These days the difference between hbo and univeristy is getting smaller. But university is still more heavy on the theory. Its really academic, unlike HBO. After 3 years you receive a bachelor degree, and another year, or two years gets you a master
That said on occasion you can follow sped up courses which allow you to get a diploma alot quicker. Such as MBO-plus which allows students with HAVO or VWO to get their MBO level 4 diploma in 2 years instead of 4.
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