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      :0Ask or tell me about breath-holding skill underwater

      Hi everyone,

      I am wondering if anyone else here has such a love for water as I do. I took some SCUBA courses, and came quite close to being certified. However, I never finished. I now however, am interested in the sport of skindiving, or breath-hold diving, which involves less preparation than SCUBA, but can still be quite dangerous.

      Does anyone here do this, or train themselves to stay down for extended periods of time?

      I have been training myself for a good amount of time. On land, max ever, I did a 3 minute breath hold, actually quite bad among the real standards. And in the water, with about 10 lbs of weight sitting on the bottom, I've pushed to a minute and a half (now 2:15), and can do 1:30 of swimming around. I'm afraid to progress to quick for fear of passing out, a bad thing to have happen underwater.

      I may have mislabeled the thread as I am no expert by any means in freediving, though I have a bit of knowledge, but created this solely for the means of discussion, anyone interested in this sport?

      I seek breathold ability really in case I go snorkeling somewhere, and it's nice to be able to swim in the pool for a while underneath since I love being under, and don't want to have to come up right away.

      Any thoughts, experiences, questions or answers welcome.

      P.S yay, I just went 2:15 under there...Yay!!
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      I can hold my breath for about three minutes underwater pretty easily, probably three and a half if I really needed to, on land I could probably do four.

      There are a couple of things that you need to remember. Before you start, flush out all the CO2 from your body. Do this by taking really deep, really fast breaths, sort of like hyperventilating on purpose.

      Slow down your heart rate, the slower your blood moves, the less oxygen that it uses.

      Move as little as possible. If I want to dive deeply, I go slow and use short strokes rather and long quick ones. It'll take you longer to get down, but you will be able to stay down for longer.

      I'm not a skin diver, but I snorkel quite a bit and always go down to check out things a little closer if I see an eel or octopus or something cool so that's how I've learned.

      I also believe that simply being athletic and a good circulatory system helps out a lot. I've been a distance runner for a long time so I have good aerobic stamina.

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      Damn 3 minutes eh? I broke my personal best with 2:15 yesterday, but that was pushing it, I came up with a splitting headache...
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      Here's an exercise to try. I do it for two weeks before a vacation where I know that I will be swimming and before a marathon. It's based on David Blaine's training method.

      Hold your breath for one minute, then breathe for thirty seconds. Repeat ten times. It will last fifteen minutes and you've only breathed for five. If you find that easy, try a minute thirty with forty five seconds of normal breathing, or two minutes with a minute of breathing.

      It will help you overcome that burning sensation that happens after about a minute, once that passes it's a bit easier to hold your breath, but most people give up during it.

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      Thanks man, I will be sure to give it a try.

      I'm just not sure though about this:

      The strange thing is, when I go down, I start to feel like I really need to breathe at 1:00, towards, 1:30 i can hear my pulse, higher than that, into the 2 minute range ill be glancing at my watch with wide eyes, wondering why the time is going so slow, fighting the contractions and agony in my lungs. Will this subside a little bit If I push even more? This si what I've read. Or is that just dangerous?
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      I find that my lungs burn around a minute thirty and then it stops. My diaphram starts expanding and contracting as if I was breathing and after a half a minute or so it goes away. It's not going to feel comfortable, then I'm past the part that hurts.

      No, I've never heard or read anything that said that it was dangerous. Your brain cells can go for four minutes without your heart beating before brain damage kicks in, and simply holding your breath doesn't deprive your body of oxygen as much as you'd think, blood is still flowing to the brain and O2 doesn't get metabolized fast enough to get to dangerously low levels. I wouldn't go for more than five minutes, but I doubt I'll ever get there anyway.

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      well i just came back from holiday and in a swimming pool i can do 2:20. I climb to the bottom of the deep end of the pool using the steps, since they go to the bottom. Then i hold on to the steps as i don't like floating at the top. Chest convulsions started at 90seconds and they kinda hurt but i ignored them or curled up into a ball until i couldn't take it anymore. Just don't breath out like any air in the form of bubbles because you need to try and make the mose of it.
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      i can do like, 2:30 on land, dont know about under the water though... i would try it, but i dont have a way of timeing myself. Maybe i should look at my dive computer...

      i scuba dive though thats great fun. im shooting for 134ft to beat my record on my next deep dive
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      i cant do it on land very well at all. Water is easier cos i dont have a choice about it, because if i open my mouth im going to start swallowing water.
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      I haven't timed myself lately, but the longest I've gone on land was about... two and a half minutes if I remember correctly.

      I love being under water, though! Absolutely love it, even if it's just in a pool. I would love to take a scuba diving class, though.

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      3:18 on land, but I never timed myself underwater. I could swim 50 yards underwater, back in the day when I had almost zero body fat and was on a swim team.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      I could swim 50 yards underwater, back in the day when I had almost zero body fat and was on a swim team.
      Oh, swim team. That 25yd pool was a breeze to swim, but I think I managed the 50 meter once or twice... or at least was really close.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Amethyst Star View Post

      I love being under water, though! Absolutely love it, even if it's just in a pool. I would love to take a scuba diving class, though.
      me too!! I'm suffering from withdrawal symptoms right now. I just got back of holiday were i was underwater in the pool all the time, i didn't like the scuba gear so i just wore goggles:p. But i love being underwater, it's really quiet and peaceful down there.
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      I figured out what is holding me back. I again today, did a little over 2 minutes, maybe 2:05 or 2:07, sitting underwater. My issue is not the lack of air, (well I guess it is) but rather, way before my lungs start to burn, my head starts to pound, and it hurts so f-ing much, I have to come up. I have no doubt if that wasn't there, I could hold well over 2 minutes, maybe even 3, but that's pushing it.

      Is there anyone who knows how I can releive this? It is the same thing each time, and it is so frustrating, because if I could figure out if there was a way to bypass this sensation I could increase my BH time by a third or so.

      Any help is appreciated. Do you feel this too?
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      Quote Originally Posted by bro View Post
      I figured out what is holding me back. I again today, did a little over 2 minutes, maybe 2:05 or 2:07, sitting underwater. My issue is not the lack of air, (well I guess it is) but rather, way before my lungs start to burn, my head starts to pound, and it hurts so f-ing much, I have to come up. I have no doubt if that wasn't there, I could hold well over 2 minutes, maybe even 3, but that's pushing it.

      Is there anyone who knows how I can releive this? It is the same thing each time, and it is so frustrating, because if I could figure out if there was a way to bypass this sensation I could increase my BH time by a third or so.

      Any help is appreciated. Do you feel this too?
      That could be water pressure on your ears. The deeper you go, the more that will hurt. It happens to people a lot of times when they haven't been swimming much recently. Ear plugs help with that, and staying near the top of the water does too. Also, the closer you are to the surface of the water, the longer you can stay under (so I was taught).
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      If your body is in the water when you take that last breath, then you have a lot of pressure on your chest (more than you would think anyway) and you aren't getting nearly as much air.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      If your body is in the water when you take that last breath, then you have a lot of pressure on your chest (more than you would think anyway) and you aren't getting nearly as much air.
      o hey yeah! i might try that, climb out the pool take the big breath, and quickly climb in.
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      I got news for you: While you would take in more air, it would require more energy to stay submerged because you are now more buoyant You could float face-down for longer, but as for being under, I'm not sure, it would require balancing out.

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      Thanks guys ,

      I appreciate your answers. Yes, I agree that climbing out can help immensly, as I've experienced it myself. You can probably take in anther 1/5 of a breath. I've also found that pursing your lips while "packing" helps as well, after hyperventilating moderately.

      The issue with buoyancy I've encountered myself, and that is apparently why some divers where weight belts of 10-20 lbs. Instead of having to let out air, you can balance yourself with an appropriate amount of weight. I usually do so with a rock or two, as I don't have a weight belt readily available.

      Anyway, just make sure you don't have em' tied to yourself so you can just let go of them, or use a weight belt, as that has an emergency pull string just in case.

      Again, thanks guys, I really enjoy the UW world, it's amazing what our bodies can do with just a small amount of training...
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      That's why I'm in a lucid dreaming forum, why hold your breath when you can breathe under water?

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      When holding your breath under water should you release air when you're under or hold it just like you're holding your breath on land?
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      Random (but cool) thread idea, bro! When I was younger, I used to be in swimming lessons all the time, and I just looove jumping off boats in the middle of lakes. I guess you could say I'm a water person, too.

      Darn, this is the second topic that's made me extremely thirsty today.

      I'm not expert at breath-holding - not in any sense of the word. I can hold it for about a minute and a few seconds.
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      How do you improve how long you can hold your breath? I don't swim much and the longest I can ever do on land is about a minute. Do you just start doing it every day and that increases your lung capacity? I play the trombone and I think it would help with that too. thanks.

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      Well really Phobia, you can improve. It's not easy, and not pleasant, but if you want to you can... If you can do a minute on land, keep practicing a minute, don't move, lay on your bed or a chair, breathe deeply out then in 3 or 4 times (hyperventilating)(this depletes the CO2 in your blood, and gives you a slight bit more time underwater) then purse your lips, and softly but firmly suck in as much air as you can, try to pack in a bit more, you can look up that techinque called "packing" practiced by experts. Just remember, underwater is harder than on land, if your going to try for alot, do it with a buddy. (You can faint alot easier than you'd think).

      I would say just do 3 or 4 good 1 minute breath holds a day, until you get that down, and stay calm with it. Comfort yourself that if you did 1:00, it's only another 10 seconds to 1:10. Go easy, but know you can do it, like lucid dreaming, and be careful please, I need as many people alive as possible to help with my dreaming
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      Thanks bro. After I made that last post one night in bed I actually made it 2 minutes. That was after getting the CO2 out like it said in some earlier posts. Yeah I don't plan on dying and I don't swim underwater so I think I'll be ok. BTW when I have hiccups I always hold my breath for as long as possible and that gets rid of them.

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